Posted February 5, 201114 yr I've been keeping a record of how the charts would look without collaborations since the beginning of the year. Here is the latest look W/E. 5th Feb 2011 01. NE Ke$ha - We R Who We R 02. 01. Bruno Mars - Grenade 03. 02. Adele - Rolling In The Deep 04. 03. Jessie J - Do It Like A Dude 05. 04. Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me 06. NE Chris Brown - Yeah 3X 07. 08. Adele - Make You Feel My Love 08. 05. Ellie Goulding - Your Song 09. 07. Bruno Mars - Just The Way You Are 10. 06. Black Eyed Peas - The Time (Dirty Bit) 11. NE Pink - F’in Perfect 12. 10. Rihanna - Only Girl (In The World) 13. 09. Matt Cardle - When We Collide 14. 11. Nero - Me & You 15. 12. Katy Perry - Firework 16. 13. Cee-Lo Green - F You 17. NE Beady Eye - The Roller 18. NE Vaccines - Post Break Up Sex 19. 15. Alexis Jordan - Happiness 20. 14. Pink - Raise Your Glass 21. NE Wombats - Jump Into The Fog 22. NE Adele - Someone Like You 23. NE Noah & The Whale - L.I.F.E.G.O.E.S.O.N 24. 20. Mike Posner - Cooler Than Me 25. 16. Willow - Whip My Hair 26. 22. Olly Murs - Thinking Of Me 27. 18. Cheryl Cole - The Flood 28. 30. Eliza Doolittle - Pack Up 29. 17. Avril Lavigne - What The Hell 30. 23. Take That - The Flood 31. 21. Cee-Lo Green - It’s OK 32. NE Neon Trees - Animal 33. 26. Nelly - Just A Dream 34. 29. Rihanna - S&M 35. 19. Usher - More 36. 43. Muse - Feeling Good 37. 25. Wanted - Lose My Mind 38. 35. Taio Cruz - Dynamite 39. RE Rihanna - Unfaithful 40. 27. Gyptian - Hold You 41. RE Eminem - Lose Yourself 42. 32. Paramore - The Only Exception 43. 41. Eliza Doolittle - Skinny Genes 44. 31. Nicole Scherzinger - Poison 45. 38. Amy MacDonald - This Is The Life 46. RE Nicki Minaj - Right Thru Me 47. 36. JLS - Love You More 48. NE Glee Cast - I Want To Hold Your Hand 49. 44. B.o.B - I’ll Be In The Sky 50. 34. White Lies - Bigger Than Us If anyone wants to see the previous charts for this year let me know.
February 5, 201114 yr Author Why would you take the collaborations out though ? :???: Just curiosity, these days there are many more collaborations than there used to be, nothing wrong with them, just pure curiosity
February 5, 201114 yr I does illustrate just how many collaborations there are when Beady Eye and The Vaccines get into the top 20 in this chart while not even making the top 30 in the real chart.
February 5, 201114 yr Author I does illustrate just how many collaborations there are when Beady Eye and The Vaccines get into the top 20 in this chart while not even making the top 30 in the real chart. Once again, just for curiosity, I looked up the first chart of the 90's, only ONE song in the Top 40 was a collaboration, now it's about a 40/60 split collaboration/non-collaboration
February 5, 201114 yr I've been keeping a record of how the charts would look without collaborations since the beginning of the year. Here is the latest look W/E. 5th Feb 2011 01. NE Ke$ha - We R Who We R 02. 01. Bruno Mars - Grenade 03. 02. Adele - Rolling In The Deep 04. 03. Jessie J - Do It Like A Dude 05. 04. Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me 06. NE Chris Brown - Yeah 3X 07. 08. Adele - Make You Feel My Love 08. 05. Ellie Goulding - Your Song 09. 07. Bruno Mars - Just The Way You Are 10. 06. Black Eyed Peas - The Time (Dirty Bit) 11. NE Pink - F’in Perfect 12. 10. Rihanna - Only Girl (In The World) 13. 09. Matt Cardle - When We Collide 14. 11. Nero - Me & You 15. 12. Katy Perry - Firework 16. 13. Cee-Lo Green - F You 17. NE Beady Eye - The Roller 18. NE Vaccines - Post Break Up Sex 19. 15. Alexis Jordan - Happiness 20. 14. Pink - Raise Your Glass 21. NE Wombats - Jump Into The Fog 22. NE Adele - Someone Like You 23. NE Noah & The Whale - L.I.F.E.G.O.E.S.O.N 24. 20. Mike Posner - Cooler Than Me 25. 16. Willow - Whip My Hair 26. 22. Olly Murs - Thinking Of Me 27. 18. Cheryl Cole - The Flood 28. 30. Eliza Doolittle - Pack Up 29. 17. Avril Lavigne - What The Hell 30. 23. Take That - The Flood 31. 21. Cee-Lo Green - It’s OK 32. NE Neon Trees - Animal 33. 26. Nelly - Just A Dream 34. 29. Rihanna - S&M 35. 19. Usher - More 36. 43. Muse - Feeling Good 37. 25. Wanted - Lose My Mind 38. 35. Taio Cruz - Dynamite 39. RE Rihanna - Unfaithful 40. 27. Gyptian - Hold You 41. RE Eminem - Lose Yourself 42. 32. Paramore - The Only Exception 43. 41. Eliza Doolittle - Skinny Genes 44. 31. Nicole Scherzinger - Poison 45. 38. Amy MacDonald - This Is The Life 46. RE Nicki Minaj - Right Thru Me 47. 36. JLS - Love You More 48. NE Glee Cast - I Want To Hold Your Hand 49. 44. B.o.B - I’ll Be In The Sky 50. 34. White Lies - Bigger Than Us If anyone wants to see the previous charts for this year let me know. Interesting. I wonder how it would look if you also removed anything non-original (i.e. covers & samples)?
February 5, 201114 yr This is actually a very interesting idea - as pointed out by Suedehead, it's interesting that a song that made #32 in the charts - can make #18 here, goes to prove that there are so many collabs nowadays.
February 5, 201114 yr Interesting. I wonder how it would look if you also removed anything non-original (i.e. covers & samples)? Ignoring minor samples which you don't necessarily notice and giving Chris Brown the benefit of the doubt and letting him stay despite obvious Calvin Harris plagiarism, the following would be removed: Make You Feel My Love Your Song The Time (Dirty Bit) When We Collide Happiness Pack Up Feeling Good I Want To Hold Your Hand So the rest would be moved up the appropriate number of places and the new 43-50 would be as follows: 43 N-Dubz - Girls 44 Ne-Yo - Beautiful Monster 45 Florence + The Machine - Dog Days Are Over 46 Eminem - Not Afraid 47 The Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling 48 Katy B - Katy On A Mission* 49 Take That - Rule The World 50 Coldplay - Fix You *This song is based on an unreleased Benga song called 'Man On A Mission', if you want to exclude that as well Ellie Goulding is #50 with Starry Eyed
February 5, 201114 yr ^ I Gotta Feeling samples David Guetta, so that would have to go too. Infact, all the Black Eyed Peas singles since Boom Boom Pow (I Gotta Feeling, Meet Me Halfway, Rock That Body, Imma Be and The Time) used proper samples. Their next single, Just Can't Get Enough doesn't sample anything though. Or there might be a sample, but it isn't credited on the album (infact, their new album only has 4 credited samples :(). Edited February 5, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob
February 5, 201114 yr ^ I Gotta Feeling samples David Guetta, so that would have to go too. That comes under 'minor samples you don't necessarily notice' I suppose Happiness' sample isn't exactly noticeable but since it goes through the entire song I thought I'd knock it out anyway Edited February 5, 201114 yr by ★BlindFaithBray★
February 5, 201114 yr ^ I Gotta Feeling samples David Guetta, so that would have to go too. Infact, all the Black Eyed Peas singles since Boom Boom Pow (I Gotta Feeling, Meet Me Halfway, Rock That Body, Imma Be and The Time) used proper samples. Their next single, Just Can't Get Enough doesn't sample anything though. Or there might be a sample, but it isn't credited on the album (infact, their new album only has 4 credited samples :(). JCGE just steals a song title :lol:
February 5, 201114 yr That comes under 'minor samples you don't necessarily notice' I suppose Happiness' sample isn't exactly noticeable but since it goes through the entire song I thought I'd knock it out anyway Oh, okay. I'd say you were right to knock out Happiness though. I mean, that is probably more extensive sampling than seen in even The Time, since it's basically Brazil Second Edit changed into verse/chorus/bridge structure, with some singing over the top. It's just The Time samples a song that literally everybody betweem the ages of 5 and 70 in the entire world knows very well. :lol:
February 5, 201114 yr JCGE just steals a song title :lol: I keep on thinking their new single title is a cover of the old Depeche Mode hit. :lol:
February 5, 201114 yr Ignoring minor samples which you don't necessarily notice Well, in my scenario I was thinking about excluding any with samples, however innocuous...
February 5, 201114 yr Well, in my scenario I was thinking about excluding any with samples, however innocuous... So if an otherwise 100% original song sampled one second of another song it's suddenly unoriginal?
February 5, 201114 yr Well, in my scenario I was thinking about excluding any with samples, however innocuous... That would kick out most of the chart, probably. :lol: And what about those songs that don't sample, but sound very similar to other songs (Eyes Wide Shut and Yeah 3x, for example)?
February 5, 201114 yr wow, so if there were no collaborations we would've seen two re-entries from older songs :o this would be an interesting addition actually
February 5, 201114 yr wow, so if there were no collaborations we would've seen two re-entries from older songs :o this would be an interesting addition actually I don't get it? Both of those songs *did* re-enter (60 & 62) as did many others.
February 5, 201114 yr I don't get it? Both of those songs *did* re-enter (60 & 62) as did many others. in the top 40 :P
February 5, 201114 yr in the top 40 :P Well then there's only 1... :P This topic sort of reminded me of the Homegrown chart which just stopped being posted at some point last year probably due to lack of interest. I've decided to type up the Homegrown Top 40 for the past 5 weeks. As you'll be able to see in the thread, The Vaccines/Beady Eye did even better on that chart :P
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