Patience

err...WHAT?! Where? Biggest song of the decade? Are you for real? It's an absolute STINKER of a song....

Well it was the biggest selling song of the decade worldwide... So yeah I think that qualifies it as the biggest song of the decade.

 

Oh, and pump it is good

Actually Patience is EASILY the second best song in the list (behind Crazy).

 

my top 2

Well it was the biggest selling song of the decade worldwide... So yeah I think that qualifies it as the biggest song of the decade.

 

Oh, and pump it is good

 

That's because the Latin American countries (never known for their taste... Enrique...Ricky Martin... Lambada... Macarena...Los Lobos.... ugh ugh ugh ...ahem) are HUGE markets - it certainly wasn't ANYWERE NEAR the biggest selling single of any decade in the UK or most of Europe. It barely scraped the top 50 biggest sellers of the decade in the UK, for starters.... biggest song of the decade? Nonsense.

 

And Pump It good? :blink: Maybe for the clinically deaf. Absolute end of argument.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Of course Patience is a "classic" record. It was their big comeback, first single in over a decade, and set them on the way to being the biggest British act of the last 5 years. And even though they've had some pretty big hits since they still haven't topped it in terms of success.

 

And saying it's an 'easy song to make' is just LUDICROUS. The melody on that song is superb. And no, it's not easy to write such a strong melody just like that.

 

But to be honest, comparing it to Maneater is dumb. Both are very good for what they are, and both rely on totally different aspects, with Maneater instead relying more on the beat/production. It's silly... if you're going to compare it to any song left, then Who Knew is easily the closest. (EDIT: Oh, just realised Who Knew is gone :lol: I haven't been paying much attention!! Well, whatever)

 

Back For Good? :P

 

Even if you're talking since their reunion, surely Rule The World outsold Patience and is far more of a 'classic'?

Back For Good? :P

 

Even if you're talking since their reunion, surely Rule The World outsold Patience and is far more of a 'classic'?

Why would I include songs pre-reunion? :wacko: LOL. I was talking about songs they had released after Patience, I thought that was pretty clear in that sentence.

 

And I have no idea if Rule the World has sold more, but even if it did I still would say Patience is far more successful based on overall success/impact at the time. Patience was the song that reintroduced them, simple as. I doubt Rule the World would have been as big as Patience was if it was released as their comeback single (it lacks the same big impact IMO) so one could say that RTW was only did as well as that because of it anyway. Basically, everything stems from Patience, so they'd have to have a really huge hit (preferably with something different to the pop/rock thing) to displace it as the defining hit of Take That's 2nd career for me...

Edited March 18, 201114 yr by superbossanova

I think TT would have been even bigger if they'd returned with RTW to be honest.

 

RTW has the fourth most top 100 weeks out of all songs, behing Chasing Cars, My Way and Sex On Fire. And I'm pretty sure RTW gets far more airplay than Patience now. To me that makes it the clear defining hit of TTv.2 :P

SOS.

I think TT would have been even bigger if they'd returned with RTW to be honest.

 

RTW has the fourth most top 100 weeks out of all songs, behing Chasing Cars, My Way and Sex On Fire. And I'm pretty sure RTW gets far more airplay than Patience now. To me that makes it the clear defining hit of TTv.2 :P

 

True, but that doesn't negate Patience being a big hit in it's own right. That would be like dismissing 'Poker Face' because 'Bad Romance' gets more airplay these days.

True, but that doesn't negate Patience being a big hit in it's own right. That would be like dismissing 'Poker Face' because 'Bad Romance' gets more airplay these days.

 

I'm not saying Patience wasn't a big hit, I'm just saying RTW was bigger. Both of them were huge (as was Shine to a lesser extent)

That's because the Latin American countries (never known for their taste... Enrique...Ricky Martin... Lambada... Macarena...Los Lobos.... ugh ugh ugh ...ahem) are HUGE markets - it certainly wasn't ANYWERE NEAR the biggest selling single of any decade in the UK or most of Europe. It barely scraped the top 50 biggest sellers of the decade in the UK, for starters.... biggest song of the decade? Nonsense.

 

And Pump It good? :blink: Maybe for the clinically deaf. Absolute end of argument.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Woah!! Calm down! No need to be so dramatic! :o

 

Yes, Hips Don't Lie was the biggest-selling song of the decade (worldwide). You said something along the lines of it being an insignificant song or something, and I was just pointing out that it's a silly thing to say tbh, whether you like the song or now.

 

Hips Don't Lie went to #1 in almost 60 countries apparently. Sorry, but Take That will never have that success. They can't even dream of that success.

 

There are some Take That songs I like since their comeback. I love Shine (I actually bought it) and I'm really liking their most recent single too, Kidz.

 

However it does seem they've got a bunch of songs which are like clones of Patience. Rule the World (which I used to love, and now I like it), Greatest Day (which I borderline like), now The Flood (which I hate :().

 

I love Pump It. It gets so frustrating saying that I like a song only to be told I must be deaf. This happens every few days on here. It's quite annoying. :lol:

 

I listen to Pump It. It's an enjoyable experience. So I listen to it more! :D

 

I listen to Patience. It's not an enjoyable experience. So I stop listening to it (except I still hear it every few days, unfortunately). :(

 

About the airplay of Patience, you have to realize that most of the stations that are still playing it are MOR stations. It's a bit unfair to use airplay to say a song is a classic, because firstly airplay on those stations is up to a group of a dozen people in their late 30's who work for the radio station. That's not representative of the general population. Secondly, those radio stations usually discriminate against certain genres. Heart FM, for example, never play songs with rapping in. If Patience had rap verses, they wouldn't play it. It sounds stupid, but that's the way it is, so you can't really use lack of airplay to claim songs such as Beep and Promiscuous are forgotten, or whatever. They're not getting airplay because they do not fit the mould of a song that Touch, Smooth, etc. will play.

 

I agree with Bray. I think Rule the World was bigger than Patience anyway. Although I might think it was bigger becuase I listened to it more at the time, as I actually liked it, but that's the way it seemed to me.

Edited March 18, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

The highest ever vote percentages:

 

1. Lady Gaga - Poker Face - 77%

2. Rihanna - Disturbia - 61%

3. Rihanna & Jay-Z - Umbrella - 60%

4. ?? Rihanna - SOS ~ 50%??

 

Yeah, Poker Face, fair enough. It's dreadful. But, WHY IS RIHANNA SO HATED? :angry:

 

What has she done to deserve this? :cry:

I find this post really bizarre... Poker Face received 77% in the FINAL, hardly hated or a sign that the site thinks it's dreadful when it managed to get that far.

 

Same for the others, the % comparison is not really a consistent indicator as you are obviously far more likely to receive a higher % when there are fewer tracks remaining.

I think 'Crazy' is more likely to hold that honour.

Agree! I Think that if one of those songs become a classic, that's definitely Crazy! And probably Patience too.

No, didn't say the abysmal Hips was insignificant - just deeply, deeply BAD. She sounds like she's gargling phlegm on it for one thing - what you need to remember is, Latin America is a coossal market - one of the bigest - hence trash like Shakira who, let's be honest, has released ONE listenable single (She Wolf) in her entire career - and that's because her vocals were heavily doctored.

 

And a number one single is NEVER a sign of a quality record. I can name more appalling number ones, across the globe, than I can brilliant ones.

 

And Akon and Black Eyed Peas are utterly unforgiveable and inexcusable. End of.

 

For the record, too, I'm not a Take That fan at all - but you'd have to be pretty young or stupid, or both, to not realise the impact of them - maybe when Shakira has been having number one singles and best selling albums after 20 years we can have a similar argument about her. Ah yes, her last album - flopped, didn't it? So far from Take That never having the same success as, ahem, Shakira, or only dreaming' of it..... sorry - nonsense, again. Shakira will disappear to the Latin American market, as all the other Latin artists do - her lifespan as a global chart-topper is pretty much at an end, I'd say.

 

To excuse Patience's airplay as 'only MOR stations' is again nonsense - it's a record I hear on my local radio station a few times a week - alongside The Vaccines, The Clash, Depeche Mode etc etc etc..... hardly MOR. Whther you like the record or not, to deny that it's a lifelong classic, something you'll hear again and again throughout your lifetime, is silly. I don't like Candle In The Wind one bit - but..well... it's a classic. Same with Let It Be. Same with Save A Prayer. Same with Losing My Religion. Same with Heart of Glass. Same with Angels. None of them songs I like AT ALL - but songs that'll be around.... forever, really, like it or not.

 

As someone else mentioned, Crazy is the other song on the list that people will still be playing and mentioning 20 years from now..... only that one and Patience on that list, absolutely no question.

 

 

No, didn't say the abysmal Hips was insignificant - just deeply, deeply BAD. She sounds like she's gargling phlegm on it for one thing - what you need to remember is, Latin America is a coossal market - one of the bigest - hence trash like Shakira who, let's be honest, has released ONE listenable single (She Wolf) in her entire career - and that's because her vocals were heavily doctored.

 

And a number one single is NEVER a sign of a quality record. I can name more appalling number ones, across the globe, than I can brilliant ones.

 

And Akon and Black Eyed Peas are utterly unforgiveable and inexcusable. End of.

 

For the record, too, I'm not a Take That fan at all - but you'd have to be pretty young or stupid, or both, to not realise the impact of them - maybe when Shakira has been having number one singles and best selling albums after 20 years we can have a similar argument about her. Ah yes, her last album - flopped, didn't it? So far from Take That never having the same success as, ahem, Shakira, or only dreaming' of it..... sorry - nonsense, again. Shakira will disappear to the Latin American market, as all the other Latin artists do - her lifespan as a global chart-topper is pretty much at an end, I'd say.

 

To excuse Patience's airplay as 'only MOR stations' is again nonsense - it's a record I hear on my local radio station a few times a week - alongside The Vaccines, The Clash, Depeche Mode etc etc etc..... hardly MOR. Whther you like the record or not, to deny that it's a lifelong classic, something you'll hear again and again throughout your lifetime, is silly. I don't like Candle In The Wind one bit - but..well... it's a classic. Same with Let It Be. Same with Save A Prayer. Same with Losing My Religion. Same with Heart of Glass. Same with Angels. None of them songs I like AT ALL - but songs that'll be around.... forever, really, like it or not.

 

As someone else mentioned, Crazy is the other song on the list that people will still be playing and mentioning 20 years from now..... only that one and Patience on that list, absolutely no question.

 

Wow. Well done. :)

Woah!! Calm down! No need to be so dramatic! :o

 

The irony!! :lol: