October 7Oct 7 On the flip side most of these were pre streaming so physical media was only way to find out if you liked an album (which would be donated to a charity shop within 6 months normally) so I reckon huge physical sales now is more impressive no matter how many formats 😃
October 7Oct 7 1 hour ago, nikos said:Well most of these albums were released in 3 formats only ,1 LP, 1 Vinyl and 1 cassette so there is no comparison to today where you have 5 cd 5 vinyl and 5 tapes at least of the same album! Back then it meant so much more...! Those were the real records!!!Fan bulk buying has always been a thing, I remember buying 4 copies of McFly’s Wonderland album In 2005.😂 It’s not as niche now, but a sale is a sale and it all should be counted. I’m not a Taylor fan, but all artists have many variants now and no one else is debuting with 100K+, never mind 200K, so it’s still a huge achievement for her.
October 7Oct 7 Author If you look over the last 10 years only Ed Sheeran, Abba, Adele and Taylor Swift have been capable of selling in the quantity needed to make the list. Abba was pretty much a one off as their first studio album in 40 years and Ed Sheeran is no longer capable of hitting the mark leaving only Adele and Taylor as possibles. A lot of acts are releasing in multiple variants but yet they aren't making this list so it is still an achievement I think, after all no one is making people buy all the variants, she simply has the fans to do it, in that respect all the acts on the list simply had the fans to do it. I do understand your point but ultimately she's still the only one making this list these days.
October 7Oct 7 1 hour ago, BREAKTHETENSION said:Fan bulk buying has always been a thing, I remember buying 4 copies of McFly’s Wonderland album In 2005.😂 It’s not as niche now, but a sale is a sale and it all should be counted.I’m not a Taylor fan, but all artists have many variants now and no one else is debuting with 100K+, never mind 200K, so it’s still a huge achievement for her.Its not the same as the artists back then didnt try to milk their funs with all these variants and then adding two songs each time every two weeks for the next two months, like Taylor did since yoou mentioned her, If you bought 4 copies of the same album... well not much i can say about that. haha. All i said is that you can not compare todays sales with those and the reasons are very obvious. 1 hour ago, Gezza said:If you look over the last 10 years only Ed Sheeran, Abba, Adele and Taylor Swift have been capable of selling in the quantity needed to make the list. Abba was pretty much a one off as their first studio album in 40 years and Ed Sheeran is no longer capable of hitting the mark leaving only Adele and Taylor as possibles.A lot of acts are releasing in multiple variants but yet they aren't making this list so it is still an achievement I think, after all no one is making people buy all the variants, she simply has the fans to do it, in that respect all the acts on the list simply had the fans to do it.I do understand your point but ultimately she's still the only one making this list these days.The ones you mentioned are today and its like you said, even though i think nobody has milked their funs the way swift has especially with her last one. All i said is that you cant compare todays sales with the ones in the 80s,90s,2000s 3 hours ago, 777666jason said:On the flip side most of these were pre streaming so physical media was only way to find out if you liked an album (which would be donated to a charity shop within 6 months normally) so I reckon huge physical sales now is more impressive no matter how many formats 😃Not really cause back then you would buy an album, if you were not a hard die fun (and most likely you`d love the album but you would buy 1 copy not 10) because of the singles they released or because you heard iot from a friend. It would still be one version of the album though, not 10-15.
October 7Oct 7 27 minutes ago, nikos said:Not really cause back then you would buy an album, if you were not a hard die fun (and most likely you`d love the album but you would buy 1 copy not 10) because of the singles they released or because you heard iot from a friend. It would still be one version of the album though, not 10-15.Not really, think i seen leona lewis and Susan boules record breaking albums in charty shops not long after releases and subo wasn't exactly know for her massive hits 🤣
October 7Oct 7 3 minutes ago, 777666jason said:Not really, think i seen leona lewis and Susan boules record breaking albums in charty shops not long after releases and subo wasn't exactly know for her massive hits 🤣I must say that in every charity shop I go to at least 1/5 albums are "I Dreamed A Dream" 😆
October 7Oct 7 3 minutes ago, gasman449 said:I must say that in every charity shop I go to at least 1/5 albums are "I Dreamed A Dream" 😆Poor Subo but its trubo🤣Also I vaguely remember a lot of albums selling really well after a performance on the x factor, most of the time they'd only released 1 song so more evidence to back up the you had to buy them to find out if you liked them 😅
October 7Oct 7 1 hour ago, 777666jason said:Not really, think i seen leona lewis and Susan boules record breaking albums in charty shops not long after releases and subo wasn't exactly know for her massive hits 🤣1 hour ago, 777666jason said:Not really, think i seen leona lewis and Susan boules record breaking albums in charty shops not long after releases and subo wasn't exactly know for her massive hits 🤣i am not saying it never happened but the same way now you stream an album out of curiosity and its gets sales......so i wonder how many people stream it out of curiosity and they never buy it cause they dont like it much.
October 7Oct 7 The difference being streaming and not liking is only something like 0.00001 of a sale, purchasing and not liking is 1 whole sale 🤣
October 7Oct 7 Comparing the two eras is always difficult - but Taylor definitely deserves to be making this list. I don't think anyone else could achieve it in the current climate and that is really impressive regardless of the number of formats etc. She has some hardcore fans but she also has a huge amount of more casual fans who are also clearly listening and buying it.She is by far the biggest act on the planet at the moment and she's at the peak of popularity, she's comparable to how big acts like Oasis were in the 90s and Adele was at her peak so she deserves to be listed among them in terms of high sellers. For every argument that she has multiple format purchases, she has to also combat people who will love the album but only stream it - which will generate way less sales now that the casual supermarket purchases that would have boosted a lot of the others on this list.If anything she'll be unfairly underrepresented on most lists because her most recent albums are hugely popular but won't be mentioned among the all time biggest sellers - and I'd probably listen to an argument that if she'd been releasing in the physical era that she'd potentially be higher up this list than she currently is.
October 7Oct 7 Author Meanwhile she's up to No 29 on the list with 3 days sales left She only needs another 30k to make one of the top 20 biggest weekly sales in UK Chart history.
October 7Oct 7 29 minutes ago, dandy* said:She is by far the biggest act on the planet at the moment and she's at the peak of popularity, she's comparable to how big acts like Oasis were in the 90s and Adele was at her peak so she deserves to be listed among them in terms of high sellers. For every argument that she has multiple format purchases, she has to also combat people who will love the album but only stream it - which will generate way less sales now that the casual supermarket purchases that would have boosted a lot of the others on this list.This like this is the first taylor album i bought in years and only because was a half price version, otherwise shes always at the top of my spotify wrapped by an unhealthy margin but I rarely buy physical media
October 7Oct 7 Author 8 minutes ago, Last Dreamer said:How much copies of "Divide" Sheeran sold (without streaming) on the first week ?592k including 418k of physicals
October 7Oct 7 6 hours ago, Gezza said:If you look over the last 10 years only Ed Sheeran, Abba, Adele and Taylor Swift have been capable of selling in the quantity needed to make the list. Abba was pretty much a one off as their first studio album in 40 years and Ed Sheeran is no longer capable of hitting the mark leaving only Adele and Taylor as possibles.A lot of acts are releasing in multiple variants but yet they aren't making this list so it is still an achievement I think, after all no one is making people buy all the variants, she simply has the fans to do it, in that respect all the acts on the list simply had the fans to do it.I do understand your point but ultimately she's still the only one making this list these days.Coldplay literally did it just last year...
October 7Oct 7 Author 23 minutes ago, Contrules said:Coldplay literally did it just last year...Quite right- I forgot about that- although they too had a push (if I recall) with access to pre-sale tickets to their concert, which probably gave them higher first week sales than they may otherwise have had.
October 8Oct 8 On 30/03/2011 at 18:53, Gezza said:That we know about obviously ....since the 80's- ! 1 03/12/2015 25- Adele 800,3072 16/03/2017 ÷ Ed Sheeran 671,5423 30/08/1997 Be Here Now Oasis 663,3894 27/11/2010 Progress Take That 518,6015 30/12/1995 Robson & Jerome Robson & Jerome 483,0006 18/06/2005 X & Y Coldplay 464,4717 31/12/2015 25- Adele 449,8708 30/12/2006 Beautiful World Take That 443,0709 10/12/2015 25-Adele 439,33710 28/12/1996 Spice The Spice Girls 439,00011 13/12/2008 The Circus Take That 432,49012 30/12/2000 1 The Beatles 422,04213 05/12/2009 I Dreamed A Dream Susan Boyle 411,82014 11/10/2003 Life For Rent Dido 400,35115 27/12/2008 The Circus Take That 381,65016 24/12/2015 25- Adele 376.71617 24/11/2007 Spirit Leona Lewis 375,87218 04/01/1997 Spice The Spice Girls 375,00019 05/11/2005 Intensive Care Robbie Williams 373,83220 29/12/2001 Swing When You're Winning Robbie Williams 365,20821 04/02/2006 Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not Arctic Monkeys 363,73522 17/12/2015 25- Adele 353,76523 26/12/2009 I Dreamed A Dream Susan Boyle 352,61224 01/01/2011 Progress Take That 350,32825 02/01/1999 Ladies & Gentlemen- The Best Of... George Michael 350,00026 12/09/1987 Bad Michael Jackson 350,00027 14/10/1995 (What's The Story) Morning Glory? Oasis 346,00028 29/12/1990 The Immaculate Collection Madonna 340,00029 25/12/2010 Progress Take That 330,25130 12/06/1999 By Request Boyzone 329,17631 30/10/2004 Greatest Hits Robbie Williams 320,08132 22/10/1988 Rattle & Hum U2 320,00033 20/12/2008 The Circus Take That 319,26534 25/11/2000 1 The Beatles 319,12635 31/12/2011 Christmas- Michael Buble 317,11436 12/07/1997 The Fat Of The Land The Prodigy 316,95137 23/12/1995 Robson & Jerome Robson & Jerome 316,00038 31/12/2005 Curtain Call- The Hits Eminem 314,55339 09/09/2000 Sing When You're Winning Robbie Williams 313,58540 03/01/2009 The Circus Take That 312,70941 11/03/2000 Standing On The Shoulder of Giants Oasis 311,26542 28/12/2002 Escapology Robbie Williams 310,23743 26/12/1998 Ladies & Gentlemen- The Best of... George Michael 309,00044 07/04/2001 Popstars Hear'Say 306,63145 30/12/2000 Coast To Coast Westlife 305,247 *46 12/12/2009 I Dreamed A Dream Susan Boyle 303,70847 23/03/2017 ÷ Ed Sheeran 303,52048 21/06/2008 Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends Coldplay 302,07449 30/12/2000 Sing When You're Winning Robbie Williams 295,802 *50 01/12/2001 Swing When You're Winning Robbie Williams 295,02451 30/09/2006 Ta-Dah! Scissor Sisters 288,16752 29/12/2007 Spirit Leona Lewis 286,43753 23/12/2000 1 The Beatles 283,30254 21/10/1995 Life Simply Red 283,00055 25/05/1996 Older George Michael 281,00056 16/12/1995 Robson & Jerome Robson & Jerome 279,00057 01/01/2000 Come On Over Shania Twain 277,00058 06/04/1996 Greatest Hits Take That 276,00059 27/03/2004 Patience George Michael 274,81660 19/12/2009 I Dreamed A Dream Susan Boyle 274,14861 07/09/2002 A Rush Of Blood To The Head Coldplay 273,92462 31/12/2005 Back To Bedlam James Blunt 273,183 *63 09/12/1995 Robson & Jerome Robson & Jerome 273,00064 21/12/1996 Spice The Spice Girls 271,00065 27/12/2003 Life For Rent Dido 270,65266 02/05/2024 The Tortured Poets Department Taylor Swift 270,09167 25/11/1995 Robson & Jerome Robson & Jerome 270,00068 31/12/1994 Carry On Up The Charts- The Best Of The Beautiful South 270,00069 24/12/2011 Christmas- Michael Buble 269, 65570 14/10/2006 Sam's Town The Killers 268,94671 30/11/2002 Escapology Robbie Williams 264,10472 31/12/2005 Intensive Care Robbie Williams 262,130 *73 02/12/2021 30 Adele 261,85674 09/04/2011 21 Adele 257,73175 02/12/2000 1 The Beatles 253,55276 26/12/2009 Crazy Love Michael Buble 251,843 *77 16/12/2000 1 The Beatles 251,28978 11/10/1997 Urban Hymns The Verve 250,05479 10 /11/1984 Welcome To The Pleasure Dome Frankie Goes To Hollywood 250,00080 02/01/1999 I've Been Expecting You Robbie Williams 250,000 *81 01/01/2011 Loud Rihanna 248,934 *82 28/12/1996 Take Two Robson & Jerome 246,000 *83 30/12/2000 Music Madonna 245,911 *84 22/12/2001 Swing When You're Winning Robbie Williams 245,25585 12/03/2005 G4 G4 244,67186 02/01/2010 Crazy Love Michael Buble 243,22687 17/12/2005 Curtain Call- The Hits Eminem 241,38288 20/05/1995 Nobody Else Take That 240,00089 21/11/2009 JLS JLS 239,64490 27/12/2003 Friday's Child Will Young 239,362 *91 19/12/1998 Ladies & Gentlemen- The Best of... George Michael 239,00092 25/12/1999 Come On Over Shania Twain 239,00093 25/06/2005 X & Y Coldplay 238,89294 21/11/2009 Reality Killed The Video Star Robbie Williams 238,12595 11/06/2005 Don't Believe The Truth Oasis 237,86596 07/12/2013 Midnight Memories- One Direction 237,33897 17/10/2024 Moon Music- Coldplay 236,79698 30/12/2006 The Love Album Westlife 236,558 *99 29/12/2001 Dreams Can come True- Greatest Hits Gabrielle 236,470 *100 17/12/2015 A Head Full Of Dreams- Coldplay 235,975 *101 31/12/2005 Face To Face Westlife 235,970 *102 21/02/2004 Feels Like Home Norah Jones 235,890103 06/09/1997 Be Here Now Oasis 235,000104 21/03/1987 The Joshua Tree U2 235,000105 18/11/2000 Coast To Coast Westlife 234,767106 02/01/2010 I Dreamed A Dream Susan Boyle 234,651 *107 03/01/2004 Life For Rent Dido 233,629108 09/12/2000 1 The Beatles 232,000109 13/07/2002 Heathen Chemistry Oasis 230,551110 30/03/1991 Greatest Hits Eurythmics 230,000111 03/01/1998 Urban Hymns The Verve 230,000112 30/12/2000 The Greatest Hits- Texas 230,000*113 21/12/2002 Escapology Robbie Williams 229,126114 23/12/2006 Beautiful World Take That 229,001115 22/12/2007 Spirit Leona Lewis 228,504116 08/06/2002 The Eminem Show Eminem 228,297117 05/05/2007 Favourite Worst Nightmare Arctic Monkeys 227,922118 04/01/2003 Escapology Robbie Williams 225,399119 26/08/2000 Born To Do It Craig David 225,320120 24/06/2006 Under The Iron Sea Keane 222,297121 04/10/2008 Only By The Night Kings Of Leon 220,879122 27/12/1997 Let's Talk About Love Celine Dion 220,000123 29/12/2007 Back Home Westlife 219,852124 02/12/2006 The Love Album Westlife 219,662125 21/09/1991 On Every Street Dire Straits 218,000126 26/11/2005 Confessions On A Dancefloor Madonna 217,610127 14/12/1996 Spice The Spice Girls 217,000128 20/12/2003 Life For Rent Dido 216,900129 12/11/2005 Face To Face Westlife 216,879130 31/12/2011 Lioness: Hidden Treasures Amy Winehouse 216,868*131 01/04/2006 Journey South Journey South 216,843132 06/01/1996 Robson & Jerome Robson & Jerome 216,000133 04/06/2011 Born This Way- Lady Gaga 215,639134 01/01/2005 Greatest Hits Robbie Williams 215,200135 06/04/1991 Greatest Hits Eurythmics 215,000136 28/12/2002 One Love Blue 214,895 *137 27/12/2014 x- Ed Sheeran 214,451138 02/12/2006 Stop The Clocks Oasis 213,289 *139 02/12/1995 Robson & Jerome Robson & Jerome 213,000140 15/12/2001 Swing When You're Winning Robbie Williams 212,386141 31/12/2005 Never Forget- The Ultimate Collection Take That 212,322 *142 03/01/2004 Friday's Child Will Young 211,496 *143 23/12/2000 Coast To Coast Westlife 210,000 *144 01/01/2005 Il Divo- Il Divo 209,208*145 05/11/2011 Mylo Xyloto- Coldplay 208,343146 04/12/2010 Progress Take That 208,219147 05/02/2011 21- Adele 208,090148 20/12/2003 Friday's Child Will Young 207,250149 30/03/2017 ÷ Ed Sheeran 206,411150 03/11/2022 Midnights Taylor Swift 204,501151 18/11/2021 Voyage ABBA 203,909152 18/12/2010 Progress Take That 203,210153 20/05/2006 Stadium Arcadium Red Hot Chili Peppers 202,409154 13/12/2003 Friday's Child Will Young 201,900155 29/04/2006 Shayne Ward Shayne Ward 201,266156 30/11/1991 Dangerous Michael Jackson 201,000157 18/10/2008 Dig Out Your Soul Oasis 200,866158 04/12/2004 How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb U2 200,863159 06/12/2008 Day & Age The Killers 200,299160 13/06/1987 Whitney Whitney Houston 200,000161 31/12/1988 Private Collection Cliff Richard 200,000      Those with an Asterisk * indicate that week the album was NOT number one (usually the xmas week or thereabouts) BOLD= sales were in FIRST weekHello. Is it possible to add chart positions next to sales week? If yes, please share. Thank you 😊
October 8Oct 8 Author Taylor now No 23 with two days to go. Needs another 12k to break into the top 20 biggest selling weeks ever
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