I hear a number of people mentioning the above, but there seems to be little, if any evidence to back it up - what makes people think it exists?

It's very clear it exists just by watching the feed. What a bizarre thread...

I hear a number of people mentioning the above, but there seems to be little, if any evidence to back it up - what makes people think it exists?

 

Of course the 'weekend effect' is real. Why else do songs from a few weeks ago climb a few places on iTunes at the weekend? The only reason is because people are hearing those songs on the radio and buying them when they not working. Songs that are relatively new don't have the weekend effect because not enough people know them.

 

I think I'm right here but correct me if not

I think it is real, because we see the phenomenon happen every single week. I don't know WHY it happens (although people have their theories, but I guess even they, can't speak for the buying habits of the whole country), but it just does. Of course, there's the occasional song that goes against the rule, but in general.

It's very clear it exists just by watching the feed.

I do monitor the feed, possibly as closely as anyone here, because of my YTD threads.

 

However, the most I see is the dropping away of the most recent releases - which means older ones may be climbing by default.

 

Other than new releases exhausting their initial front-loading though, I see no reason why any other specific type of song should benefit more the rest (barring TV appearances, of course).

 

What a bizarre thread...

 

Thank you. :)

Edited May 22, 201114 yr by vidcapper

I do monitor the feed, possibly as closely as anyone here, because of my YTD threads.

 

However, the most I see is the dropping away of the most recent releases - which means older ones may be climbing by default.

 

Other than new releases exhausting their initial front-loading though, I see no reason why any other specific type of song should benefit more the rest (barring TV appearances, of course).

 

The reason isn't relevant. The point is it does exist. We don't know why, but every single weekend older songs climb and newer songs drop.

The reason isn't relevant. The point is it does exist. We don't know why, but every single weekend older songs climb and newer songs drop.

 

I have to disagree about the reason being irrelevant - if you can't explain why a phenomenon happens, that makes it very hard to prove, statistically...

Taking the first 2 high 'new' songs from two weeks ago, Alexandra Stan and Dev.

 

Friday morning positions:

Alexandra Stan - #20

Dev - 23

 

Sunday Morning:

Alexandra - 23

Dev - 25

 

Tuesday Morning:

Alexandra - 18

Dev - 22

 

Both fell over the weekend and re-climbed after to higher than its original position. It doesn't matter why it happens but it clearly is real...

I have to disagree about the reason being irrelevant - if you can't explain why a phenomenon happens, that makes it very hard to prove, statistically...

 

But the question you asked was 'what makes people think it exists?'. The answer to that is 'if you watch the feed on Friday-Sunday you can very clearly see older songs climbing and newer songs falling, with the newer songs often starting to climb again on Monday/Tuesday'. If you were after why it happens that's a different matter entirely (and one which has been debated in the Chart forum before).

But the question you asked was 'what makes people think it exists?'. The answer to that is 'if you watch the feed on Friday-Sunday you can very clearly see older songs climbing and newer songs falling, with the newer songs often starting to climb again on Monday/Tuesday'. If you were after why it happens that's a different matter entirely (and one which has been debated in the Chart forum before).

 

It has - I don't remember seeing it?

It has - I don't remember seeing it?

 

Hmm... it's a much shorter thread than I remember it being, maybe there was more than one.

 

But here it is:

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=107874

Its definitely over rated imo. -_-

Hmm... it's a much shorter thread than I remember it being, maybe there was more than one.

 

But here it is:

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=107874

 

Thanks - I had a horrible feeling for a minute that I'd find I'd contributed, and forgotten about it, but no. :)

So how many sales does it take to move up/down a couple of places in the low 20s? A few dozen? The effect may well exist but it is hardly relevant in my opinion.

I thought Itunes was a 48hr rolling chart, meaning any "weekend" songs wouldnt see significant climbs until Monday, Surely its more a "Thursday Effect" or seemingly new frontloaded tracks ust being exhausted and falling?

I'd imagine it's related to which days are the highest for sales generally. Saturday is probably quite high for sales so the extra sales it has over Thursday or Friday probably go to songs people hear on nights out. You do tend to find that new releases, particularly those that weren't held back, may star to fall on Wednesday or Thursday but the decline accelerates on Friday and Saturday.

So how many sales does it take to move up/down a couple of places in the low 20s? A few dozen? The effect may well exist but it is hardly relevant in my opinion.

 

It is, however, relevant when old songs climb back into the top 10 because of it. See 'Sweat' right now. (Although to be fair that was also boosted by Snoop Dogg's appearance on Graham Norton)

Sweat went top 10 because of Graham Norton, as you said, not 'weekend effect'.

Edited May 22, 201114 yr by Karma

Of course the 'weekend effect' is real. Why else do songs from a few weeks ago climb a few places on iTunes at the weekend? The only reason is because people are hearing those songs on the radio and buying them when they not working. Songs that are relatively new don't have the weekend effect because not enough people know them.

 

I think I'm right here but correct me if not

Also because it's the dance/clubbier songs that climb too, so I guess people download the songs they've listened to on the night out they have at the weekend etc.. Especially when it's been a good night out for them and a particular song may connect with them as being a highlight or whatever.

 

I do monitor the feed, possibly as closely as anyone here, because of my YTD threads.

 

However, the most I see is the dropping away of the most recent releases - which means older ones may be climbing by default.

 

Other than new releases exhausting their initial front-loading though, I see no reason why any other specific type of song should benefit more the rest (barring TV appearances, of course).

Thank you. :)

Well, how come the newer songs (which fall away throughout the weekend) climb back up again on the Monday night/Tuesday morning? Coincidence? I think not.

Also because it's the dance/clubbier songs that climb too, so I guess people download the songs they've listened to on the night out they have at the weekend etc.. Especially when it's been a good night out for them and a particular song may connect with them as being a highlight or whatever.

 

Or maybe they come back from their night out too pissed/stoned to know *what* they are buying? :lol: