I can understand why they don't with some songs. But with songs like On the Floor and California Gurls, I cannot fathom why the non-rap versions aren't up for download. Such versions clearly exist, because I hear them on the radio every day. It makes no sense that people can't buy them. It's just stupid imo. They're losing money from it too.

 

The only advantage I can see is that only having one version increases the chance of the song getting the top 10 effect on iTunes.

Not sure about Radio 2, but even Heart FM, I can understand them not wanting to play N-Dubz or Wiz Khalifa, but I highly doubt songs such as Airplanes, or the original version of Empire State of Mind would scare away their listeners. It just pisses me off so much with Heart. They just hear rapping in a song an instantly refuse to play it. The closest I've heard to rap on there in recent years is I Gotta Feeling and Meet Me Halfway which they played a lot in 2010.

 

Heart are the worst it is just backwards, I doubt any of their listeners would have heart failure at the sound of Pitbull, Flo or Lil Wayne for 10 seconds on a song.It might even introduce some of their listeners to something new.

Seriously vidcapper I thought Simon Cowell, Cliff Richard and all Country artists were the Devils minions :P

Edited June 8, 201114 yr by marrb

OK, so record companies and anti-rap people could benefit from having non-rap versions (Nicole Scherzinger's 'Right There' being a good example of people preferring the non-rap), but the question states "Would you like non-rap versions of songs", which is why I said no. I'm very pro-rap, and I love singer/rapper collaborations (and rapper/singer collabs too ofc). I would never buy a song without a rap if there was a rap alternative (which is why I bought the Nicole & 50 version of RT) unless the rap had a 'c' infront of it (spelling 'crap') which has never happened to me yet

^ To be fair, with Right There, it's the solo version that's getting most of the promotion, oddly enough. I've never, ever heard the 50 Cent version on the radio so far.

 

And someone said in another thread that they always play the non-rap version on the MTV channels they watch aswell (although I don't watch much MTV, so I can't back this up).

 

It was a similar situation with Bright Lights, Bigger City. It was the non-rap version getting most of the promotion, but at least with that song, I heard the Wiz Khalifa verison a few times (Radio 1 and Capital played it a lot)! And like Right There, it also had a seperate music video for the non-rap version.

Edited June 8, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

I highly doubt that... maybe if they played a proper rap song, but not just a song with a short rap verse!

 

I wonder if these older audience radio stations will die off when the current generation grows up.

 

Unlikely, since people's musical preferences tend to become more conservative as they get older.

 

Quite a few of the records I bought as a teenager now fall into the 'WTF was I thinking' category. :)

YES! I only bought Price Tag when I discovered the b.o.b. free version, and I genuinley cant stand rap.

 

So I'm alone in that no longer... :P

 

The only advantage I can see is that only having one version increases the chance of the song getting the top 10 effect on iTunes.

 

But the overall chart is what matters, not the iTunes one.

 

Not sure about Radio 2, but even Heart FM, I can understand them not wanting to play N-Dubz or Wiz Khalifa, but I highly doubt songs such as Airplanes, or the original version of Empire State of Mind would scare away their listeners. It just pisses me off so much with Heart. They just hear rapping in a song an instantly refuse to play it.

Sounds like my kind of radio station! :lol:

 

Heart are the worst it is just backwards, I doubt any of their listeners would have heart failure at the sound of Pitbull, Flo or Lil Wayne for 10 seconds on a song.It might even introduce some of their listeners to something new.

 

But if they wanted to hear something new, surely they wouldn't be listening to Heart. :rolleyes:

 

Seriously vidcapper I thought Simon Cowell, Cliff Richard and all Country artists were the Devils minions :P

No, just Cowell - I like Country music, and at least some of Cliff's songs (the early rock & roll ones).

 

I'm very pro-rap, and I love singer/rapper collaborations (and rapper/singer collabs too ofc). I would never buy a song without a rap if there was a rap alternative (which is why I bought the Nicole & 50 version of RT) unless the rap had a 'c' infront of it (spelling 'crap') which has never happened to me yet

 

In which case you are in a ideal position to appreciate the opposite position - namely, people never wanting to buy a rap version if there were a non-rap one available. :mellow:

But the overall chart is what matters, not the iTunes one.

 

Getting top 10 on iTunes can increase your sales though.

I'm amazed that on the 21st century there are people who can't stand rap or even 15 seconds of it in another song. In the real life I don't know anyone who turns the radio off when *gasp* someone raps.

 

It's a bit like saying in the 50s that the rebellious rock destroys the mankind.

Getting top 10 on iTunes can increase your sales though.

 

Seems like a chicken & egg situation though - to go T10 on iTunes your sales will be increasing, by definition.

I'm amazed that on the 21st century there are people who can't stand rap or even 15 seconds of it in another song.

 

What does the 21st century have to do with it?

 

In my case, I'll flip channels within 3 seconds, let alone 15...

 

In the real life I don't know anyone who turns the radio off when *gasp* someone raps.

 

It's a bit like saying in the 50s that the rebellious rock destroys the mankind.

 

:rolleyes:

 

You don't think rap-objectors who post on this forum are from real life? :blink:

Edited June 9, 201114 yr by vidcapper

I think it can only benefit a song having a non-rap version and a version with a rap verse, it'll appeal to more people, and in result boost sales. ie: Right There for the latest example.

You don't think rap-objectors who post on this forum are from real life? :blink:

 

Well I didn't mean it that way. But none of my friends is that allergic to rap.

 

I understand why to hate one genre but music evolves all the time and all rap verses are there for a reason, whatever it is.

They should definately make both versions available. I don't see how labels could possibly lose out on. Most of the time it does not bother me and the rap usually adds to the song but there are some songs which just sound better without it. A perfect example for me is Alexandra Burke's All Night Long. I know there is a non-pitbull version on the album but it does not have the updated production which I like. Most songs with Lil Wayne featured on I would prefer without him, just because I can't stand him.

I voted yes

 

Mainly because the rapping is irelevent and just adds buzz.

 

I have noticed Heart fm never play the rap versions of On the floor, California girls, Bad boys, Price tag etc

Of course not. What a ludacris question. :lol:

Well I didn't mean it that way. But none of my friends is that allergic to rap.

 

I understand why to hate one genre but music evolves all the time and all rap verses are there for a reason, whatever it is.

 

Sometimes it feels like they are shoe-horned into any old song, however incongruous, just to jump on a bandwagon.

Unlikely, since people's musical preferences tend to become more conservative as they get older.

 

Quite a few of the records I bought as a teenager now fall into the 'WTF was I thinking' category. :)

 

But it's highly unlikely that teenagers at the moment will suddenly hate rap after they grow up... stations like Heart will have to change their policy on rap and in fact music in general or else they run the risk of disappearing when the majority of their audience start to die and they aren't gaining enough new listeners. They'll be fine for a few more decades but after that...

 

Seems like a chicken & egg situation though - to go T10 on iTunes your sales will be increasing, by definition.

 

But hitting #10 on iTunes causes the increase in sales to speed up, as being top 10 on iTunes puts your song on the front page of iTunes which is basically free promotion.

But hitting #10 on iTunes causes the increase in sales to speed up, as being top 10 on iTunes puts your song on the front page of iTunes which is basically free promotion.

 

This, it's really sad that Dev is always at 11, because if she steps in the big ten, she'll be top 5 in no time :cry:

I'm amazed that on the 21st century there are people who can't stand rap or even 15 seconds of it in another song. In the real life I don't know anyone who turns the radio off when *gasp* someone raps.

 

It's a bit like saying in the 50s that the rebellious rock destroys the mankind.

I wouldn't turn the radio off but I would rather not hear it all the same.

Of course not. What a ludacris question. :lol:

 

I see what you did there. :kink:

Yes from me. Most of the time the rapper just spoils the song

I Agree with you on this.