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I agree the albums should definitely be combined but I don't see any problem with the two versions of Valerie charting separately. It's a simialr situation to say, 'Show Me Love' by Robin S. / Steve Angello and Laidback Luke feat. Robin S..

 

I still don't fully understand the OCC's exact rules with these sorts of things. Is it that when the lead artist is credited differently they are left separate but when the featured artist changes they are combined? Hence Katy Perry/Kanye's E.T. combined with the sales of Katy's solo version. Yet Mark/Amy's Valerie isn't combined with Amy's solo version, however if Amy's solo version had for example featured as a b-side on Mark's Valerie EP then sales would all be combined?

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Tuesday: New Releases: Top 300-1000 (singles, album tracks, NOW 79 and all things Amy Winehouse):

 

302. You Know I'm No Good - Amy Winehouse :re:

303. In My Bed - Amy Winehouse :up: 65

304. Notorious - The Saturdays :ne:

305. Every Teardrop Is a Waterfall - Coldplay :ne:

306. At Your Inconvenience - Professor Green :ne:

318. Intro (Stronger Than Me) - Amy Winehouse :up: 11

326. Guilt (Radio Edit) - Nero :ne:

327. Unorthodox (Radio Edit) [feat. Example] - Wretch 32 & Example :ne:

334. Badman Riddim (Jump) [Radio Edit] [feat. Foreign Beggars] - Vato Gonzalez & Foreign Beggars :ne:

349. Love Is a Losing Game - Amy Winehouse :down: 5

357. Tears Dry On Their Own - Amy Winehouse :down: 2

368. Monkey Man - Amy Winehouse :re:

380. Stronger Than Me - Amy Winehouse :up: 47

398. Lay It On Me (feat. Big Sean) - Kelly Rowland :ne:

404. Tears Dry On Their Own - Amy Winehouse :down: 22

405. Text (feat. Jason Derülo) - Mann :ne:

421. It's My Party (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Quincy Jones & Amy Winehouse :up: 7

422. You Know I'm No Good - Amy Winehouse :down: 39

423. Save the World (Radio Mix) - Swedish House Mafia :ne:

424. The Mack (feat. Snoop Dogg & Iyaz) - Mann :ne:

434. Rehab - Amy Winehouse :re:

435. Wake Up Alone - Amy Winehouse :down: 54

436. Hitz (Radio Edit) [feat. Tinie Tempah] - Chase & Status & Tinie Tempah :ne:

454. Let Me Go (Shy FX & Benny Page Digital Sound Boy Remix) - Maverick Sabre : :left:

469. Motivation (feat. Lil Wayne) - Kelly Rowland :ne:

494. Love Is a Losing Game (Original Demo) - Amy Winehouse :down: 142

521. Finish Line (Radio Edit) - Yasmin :ne:

579. Valerie (Version Revisited) - Mark Ronson & Amy Winehouse :up: 52

649. Ritual Union - Little Dragon :ne:

675. Hey Little Rich Girl (feat. Zalon & Ade) - Amy Winehouse :up: 45

677. I Wanna Go - Britney Spears :ne:

706. Someone To Watch Over Me (Demo) - Amy Winehouse :down: 154

708. Exothermic Reaction - Skream :up: 262

731. He Can Only Hold Her - Amy Winehouse :down: 76

734. Intro / Stronger Than Me - Amy Winehouse :up: 234

735. For The First Time - Boyce Avenue :ne:

736. Broken Record - Katy B :ne:

764. Anthemic (Faze Miyake Grime Remix) - Magnetic Man :down: 132

807. Just Friends - Amy Winehouse :up: 27

809. To Know Him Is to Love Him (Live) - Amy Winehouse :up: 77

810. Stronger Than Me (Later with Jools Holland) - Amy Winehouse :ne:

835. F**k Me Pumps - Amy Winehouse :down: 79

836. Monkey Man - Amy Winehouse :ne:

886. You Sent Me Flying (Cherry) - Amy Winehouse :down: 2

887. 2 Seconds - Six D :down: 196

889. If Only You (Radio Edit) - Danny & Freja :ne:

948. You're Wondering Now - Amy Winehouse :down: 292

949. This - Darius Rucker :ne:

950. I'm Dat Chick - Kelly Rowland :ne:

951. Hawaiian Air (Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs Remix) - Friendly Fires :ne:

999. Addicted - Amy Winehouse :down: 339

What is the difference (if any) between the two versions of Valerie - Amy solo and Mark ft. Amy? Because IIRC, they are both identical, therefore should be combined for chart purposes.

 

Whereas BTB and BTB(D) are clearly different as the Deluxe album contains additional tracks, and therefore should chart separately.

 

Amy's solo version is more 'acoustic' and less polished than Mark's version.

 

I still don't fully understand the OCC's exact rules with these sorts of things. Is it that when the lead artist is credited differently they are left separate but when the featured artist changes they are combined? Hence Katy Perry/Kanye's E.T. combined with the sales of Katy's solo version. Yet Mark/Amy's Valerie isn't combined with Amy's solo version, however if Amy's solo version had for example featured as a b-side on Mark's Valerie EP then sales would all be combined?

 

Yes, it's based on lead artists. And if the Amy version was a B-Side on the Mark version it would, 99% certain, still be separate.

 

The difference between the two versions is one has Ronson production and the other doesn't. And I think the vocals were recorded separately. The fact one is a Mark Ronson song that happens to feature the same vocalist singing the same lyrics as the Winehouse solo version is what differentiates it from, say, if the Mark version was a remix of the Amy version. In which case they would be combined.

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73 Living Colour/ Cult Of Personality

 

And the WTF award goes to...

 

Random #89 hit from 1988? :unsure:

 

EDIT: Ah, it's being used as an 'entrance theme' for some wrestler. Didn't know that sort of thing could have such a big effect in the UK. (Although actually I think the re-entry of Red Hot Chili Peppers' 'Can't Stop' not that long ago was for the same reason)

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Amy's solo version is more 'acoustic' and less polished than Mark's version.

 

 

 

Yes, it's based on lead artists. And if the Amy version was a B-Side on the Mark version it would, 99% certain, still be separate.

 

The difference between the two versions is one has Ronson production and the other doesn't. And I think the vocals were recorded separately. The fact one is a Mark Ronson song that happens to feature the same vocalist singing the same lyrics as the Winehouse solo version is what differentiates it from, say, if the Mark version was a remix of the Amy version. In which case they would be combined.

Thank u both for clearing that up; I'd wrongly assumed the Amy/Mark lead artist versions were 100% the same.

And the WTF award goes to...

 

Random #89 hit from 1988? :unsure:

 

EDIT: Ah, it's being used as an 'entrance theme' for some wrestler. Didn't know that sort of thing could have such a big effect in the UK. (Although actually I think the re-entry of Red Hot Chili Peppers' 'Can't Stop' not that long ago was for the same reason)

 

Who knew CM Punk would have such an effect :o

iTunes Update:

 

[01] 01| JLS ft. Dev - She Makes Me Wanna

[02] 02| The Wanted - Glad You Came

[03] 03| DJ Fresh - Louder

[04] 04| Ed Sheeran - The A Team

[05] 05| Beyoncé - Best Thing I Never Had

[07] 06| Loick Essein ft. Tanya Lacey - How We Roll

[06] 07| Amy Winehouse - Back To Black

[08] 08| Katy Perry - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)

[09] 09| Pitbull ft. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer - Give Me Everything

[10] 10| Calvin Harris ft. Kelis - Bounce

 

[12] 11| Nicki Minaj - Super Bass

[11] 12| Adele - Set Fire To The Rain

[15] 13| Maverick Sabre - Let Me Go

[17] 14| David Guetta ft. Taio Cruz & Ludacris - Little Bad Girl

[13] 15| Jason DeRulo - Don't Wanna Go Home

[18] 16| David Guetta ft. Nicki Minaj & Flo Rida - Where Them Girls At

[20] 17| Chris Brown ft. Justin Bieber - Next To You

[16] 18| Example - Changed The Way You Kiss Me

[14] 19| Aloe Blacc - I Need A Dollar

[21] 20| Rizzle Kicks - Down With The Trumpets

 

[19] 21| Enrique Iglesias, Usher & Lil Wayne - Dirty Dancer

[22] 22| Amy Winehouse - Tears Dry On Their Own

[23] 23| Amy Winehouse - Rehab

[25] 24| Lady GaGa - The Edge Of Glory

[24] 25| Chris Brown ft. Benny Benassi - Beautiful People

[26] 26| LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem

[28] 27| Coldplay - Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall

[29] 28| Bruno Mars - The Lazy Song

[27] 29| Alexandra Stan - Mr Saxobeat

[31] 30| Tinie Tempah & Wiz Khalifa - Till I'm Gone

 

[30] 31| Amy Winehouse - Love Is A Losing Game

[32] 32| Rihanna - California King Bed

[36] 33| Scouting For Girls - Love How It Hurts

[34] 34| Adele - Someone Like You

[33] 35| Amy Winehouse - You Know I'm No Good

[35] 36| Six D - Best Damn Night

[38] 37| Mann ft. Snoop Dogg & Iyaz - The Mack

[40] 38| Nicole Scherzinger - Right There

[37] 39| The Saturdays - Notorious

[41] 40| Vato Gonzalez - Badman Riddim (Jump!)

 

Selected Others

 

[43] 43| Christina Perri - Jar Of Hearts

[67] 56| Magnetic Man - Anthemic

[79] 62| Robyn - Call Your Girlfriend

[62] 68| Selena Gomez & The Scene - Love You Like A Love Song

[93] 75| Little Dragon - Ritual Union

[167] 92| Benny Benassi ft. Gary Go - Cinema

 

[122] 102| Pitbull ft. Marc Anthony - Rain Over Me

[***] 116| Jay-Z & Kanye West ft. Otis Redding - Otis

[132] 125| Britney Spears - I Wanna Go

 

[***] 234| Laura Marling - Sophia

[299] 239| Mann ft. T-Pain - Get It Girl

[***] 242| Professor Green - At Your Inconvenience

[***] 263| We Are The In Crowd - Rumor Mill

Crap, don't start falling Amy! :(

 

Well, she's still a long way ahead of #8 at least... I just hope it can stay top 10 all week I guess.

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Super Bass at #11 and #87, wow :o cant believe how much help Now 79 has given the clean version of the single
[12] 11| Nicki Minaj - Super Bass

[11] 12| Adele - Set Fire To The Rain

Interesting that during the day Nicki Minaj is always higher than Adele, and in the evenings, mornings Adele climbs back to 11.

Adele and Nicki are just constantly swapping all the time, I wish they would just decide who's going to be #11 and who's going to be #12 :lol: Nicki will probably get to #11 officially this week with the Now! 79 version helping it though.
iTunes Update:

 

[122] 102| Pitbull ft. Marc Anthony - Rain Over Me

Nice to see this make an appearance! Hopefully it'll be massive, absolutely love it. :wub: One of my 2011 summer anthems. :D

I just heard Stereo Love on the TV and then listened to Glad You Came immediately afterwards and I honestly still can't hear any major resemblance... :drama: But if that's what you guys say I'll go along with it. :P

 

(One of your comparison thingamajigs would be helpful here Eric :kink:)

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Right, i'm going to be bold here and say Nicki will be in the top 10 on itunes by the end of tomorrow. Really hope so, no song deserves to be number 11 for so long and not get itunes top 10
Has Nicki's (currently number 11 version) track always been 79p or has this been recently reduced?

NOW 79 update:

 

[65] 45 Alexandra Stan - Mr Saxobeat

[130] 74 Aloe Blacc - I Need a Dollar

[115] 76 Pitbull feat. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer - Give Me Everything

[148] 77 The Wanted - Glad You Came

[136] 82 LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett & Goonrock - Party Rock Anthem

[123] 87 Nicki Minaj - Super Bass

[118] 90 Jennifer Lopez - On The Floor

[168] 96 Katy Perry - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F)

[158] 98 Jason Derulo - Don't Wanna Go Home

[171] 104 DJ Fresh feat. Sian Evans - Louder (Radio Edit)

[178] 107 Rihanna - California King Bed

[190] 113 David Guetta feat. Flo Rida & Nicki Minaj - Where Dem Girls At

[199] 118 Tinchy Stryder feat. Dappy - Spaceship

[243] 130 Calvin Harris feat. Kelis - Bounce

[251] 140 Example - Changed The Way You Kissed Me

[214] 141 Jessie J - Nobody's Perfect

[254] 152 Ed Sheeran - The A Team

[223] 156 Chris Brown feat. Benny Benassi - Beautiful People

[231] 157 Nicole Scherzinger - Don't Hold Your Breath

[269] 175 Snoop Dogg vs David Guetta - Sweat (Remix)

[307] 182 Black Eyed Peas - Just Can't Get Enough

[379] 185 Loick Essien feat. Tanya Lacey - How We Roll

[328] 199 Lady Gaga - Born This Way

[304] 203 Dev & The Cataracs - Bass Down Low

[324] 207 Wynter Gordon - Dirty Talk

[426] 209 Inna - Sun Is Up

[320] 211 Alex Gaudino feat. Kelly Rowland - What a Feeling

[368] 216 Scouting For Girls - Love How It Hurts

[338] 217 Take That - Love Love

[359] 227 Templecloud - One Big Family

[585] 251 Coldplay - Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall

[539] 252 Mann feat. 50 Cent - Buzzin' (Remix)

[476] 262 Saturdays - Notorious

[444] 274 Birdy - Skinny Love

[449] 275 Nero - Guilt (Radio Edit)

[470] 282 Cee Lo Green - I Want You (Hold On To Love)

[483] 283 Wretch 32 feat. Example - Unorthodox

[568] 284 Vato Gonzalez & Foreign Beggars - Badman Riddim (Jump) (Radio Edit)

[598] 317 Swedish House Mafia - Save The World

[830] 419 Chase & Status feat. Tinie Tempah - Hitz

[811] 495 Yasmin - Finish Line

[***] 636 Katy B - Broken Record

 

 

 

Hitz no longer the lowest album track :D (Although it never was anyway as Katy B hadn't entered at the last update - what a bizarre inclusion anyway though?!)
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