July 27, 201113 yr Since kathyp felt my list was on the short side, I'd say it's only fair that I treat the lady right and suggest some more names, then. :P Massive Attack Portishead Radiohead Eminem (already mentioned, but essential nonetheless) Björk My Bloody Valentine Oasis (already mentioned too, but still undeniable) Coldplay (ditto) LCD Soundsystem Korn Rage Against The Machine Green Day The Strokes Jay-Z OutKast Dizzee Rascal Kanye West Is it enough? :lol: Edited July 27, 201113 yr by jaxxalude
July 27, 201113 yr I think to make this fair, we shouldn't count artists that have only just got successful as recent as 2009 I've noticed not a lot of rock acts have been mentioned: Muse Bon Jovi Green Day Metallica Guns and Roses Radiohead Foo Fighters Arctic Monkeys Nirvana Duran Duran White Stripes Red Hot Chilli Peppers plus I think these could use a nom: Daft Punk George Michael Elton John Spice Girls Chemical Brothers I'm genuinely not just picking my favourites here btw :lol: I believe all these artists have been very influential in their respective genre's Edited July 27, 201113 yr by Chart Wizard
July 27, 201113 yr I certainly wasn't directing my post at you Jax. Of those that have posted - your list was quite credible (if a bit on the short side! :lol: ) I'm talking the likes of Leona Lewis, Take That, Robbie Williams, Cheryl Cole, etc, etc being influential. They may certainly be favourite artists and indeed good performers. Influential? Definitely not. Even the excellent Adele can't be quoted as being influential as she's been influenced herself by Amy Winehouse - who I'm quite certain appears to have been influenced herself by artists 20/30 years (even more) prior. Kath I do believe Take That and Robbie are very influential :o I mean look at all the new boybands these days, Take That stand above all of them and are often compared, they've proved that they can stand the test of time as well as for Robbie, well, he's one of the most successful male solo acts in the UK so pretty influential in that respect
July 27, 201113 yr Some more. Weezer Red Hot Chili Peppers (good call there, Wizard!) Jane's Addiction Alice in Chains Linkin Park blink-182 Edited July 27, 201113 yr by jaxxalude
July 27, 201113 yr Two massive ones missing are The Strokes and The Libertines. They were the two bands who, at the start of the previous decade, got people to pick up a guitar again and if someone like Amy Winehouse has paved the way for future success of imitators then these two certainly did that also.
July 27, 201113 yr I know I'm biased but Suede are often mentioned as one of the pioneers of Britpop.
July 27, 201113 yr I do believe Take That and Robbie are very influential :o I mean look at all the new boybands these days, Take That stand above all of them and are often compared, they've proved that they can stand the test of time as well as for Robbie, well, he's one of the most successful male solo acts in the UK so pretty influential in that respect I agree they can stand out as a great example of a boyband but they're not musically influential. How can they be when they admit themselves that they've been influenced by other artists from Adam Ant (I'm serious) to The Beatles? Sure - young lads want to follow them and be as successful as them and have all the trappings go hand-in-hand with fame and wealth but musically and artistically they have NOT been influential. Being successful and mega-selling doesn't mean that the artist has influence. For that matter - we could say Englebert Humperdinck was highly influential as he was one of the biggest selling male artists of the 60's but I'm sure we'd all agree he was no Elvis Presley or Roy Orbison. Heck - even Ken Dodd had a very successful singing career in the 60's too - is he influential? Kath Edited July 27, 201113 yr by Kathyp
July 27, 201113 yr Two massive ones missing are The Strokes and The Libertines. They were the two bands who, at the start of the previous decade, got people to pick up a guitar again and if someone like Amy Winehouse has paved the way for future success of imitators then these two certainly did that also. My earlier post in this page does mention The Strokes. The Libs? I think they're more a product of The Strokes's influence than genuine influencers themselves, quite honestly. If anything, the Arctic Monkeys might have been a bigger influence in the longer run, although I still feel it's too close to call on that one yet.
July 27, 201113 yr Some of the artists mentioned are undoubtedly influential but haven't done anything particularly innovative in the last 20 years. For example, Michael Jackson's most influential material dates back to the 1980s. If MJ is allowed to qualify then David Bowie should also be included.
July 27, 201113 yr I agree they can stand out as a great example of a boyband but they're not musically influential. How can they be when they admit themselves that they've been influenced by other artists from Adam Ant (I'm serious) to The Beatles? Sure - young lads want to follow them and be as successful as them and have all the trappings go hand-in-hand with fame and wealth but musically and artistically they have NOT been influential. Being successful and mega-selling doesn't mean that the artist has influence. For that matter - we could say Englebert Humperdinck was highly influential as he was one of the biggest selling male artists of the 60's but I'm sure we'd all agree he was no Elvis Presley or Roy Orbison. Heck - even Ken Dodd had a very successful singing career in the 60's too - is he influential? Kath I agree that Take That can't really be classed as musically influential. However, if we excluded anyone who themselves were influenced by someone else, we'd have a very short list. If it was opened out to an all-time list we'd even have to exclude The Beatles.
July 27, 201113 yr My earlier post in this page does mention The Strokes. The Libs? I think they're more a product of The Strokes's influence than genuine influencers themselves, quite honestly. If anything, the Arctic Monkeys might have been a bigger influence in the longer run, although I still feel it's too close to call on that one yet. I didn't realise there was any posts on a new page, I was going off what was mentioned before my previous post. I definitely think The Strokes were more influential but 'Is This It?' is only one year older than 'Up The Bracket' and nothing had really come about like that between that was British, you are right to an extent but The Libertines very much represented the UK part of it. Whilst I think Arctic Monkeys have been incredibly influential it's for a different reason. The Strokes and The Libertines had heaps of praise and got new guitar bands into the charts, the other guitar acts in the charts at the time were either 90s (generally Britpop) survivors or ones which weren't really comparable (Doves, Idlewild, Elbow), whereas when Arctic Monkeys appeared there was already a huge amount of that stuff in the charts. Arctic Monkeys are definitely in the top 5 influential acts in the UK from the previous decade purely for the way music was made, marketed and shared. They lead the Myspace/Social Network generation, they were the ones who took it to the mainstream and made it a mass marketing tool which before they came about was barely used, to something that was used by every artist and record label and promoted incredibly heavily.
July 27, 201113 yr Some of the artists mentioned are undoubtedly influential but haven't done anything particularly innovative in the last 20 years. For example, Michael Jackson's most influential material dates back to the 1980s. If MJ is allowed to qualify then David Bowie should also be included. This is true. A lot of bands and acts that have broken through in the last 10 years, they all seem to name as many (probably more) acts who haven't released much of note since 1990, than those who have.
July 27, 201113 yr This is true. A lot of bands and acts that have broken through in the last 10 years, they all seem to name as many (probably more) acts who haven't released much of note since 1990, than those who have. Indeed. There are a lot of bands who seem to have been influenced by their parents' record collection as much as their won. For example, in the mid noughties there were a lot of bands with clear Joy Division influences.
July 27, 201113 yr David Bowie is one of Lady Gaga's main influences, so he should count although his main material was before 1990.
July 27, 201113 yr I agree they can stand out as a great example of a boyband but they're not musically influential. How can they be when they admit themselves that they've been influenced by other artists from Adam Ant (I'm serious) to The Beatles? Sure - young lads want to follow them and be as successful as them and have all the trappings go hand-in-hand with fame and wealth but musically and artistically they have NOT been influential. Being successful and mega-selling doesn't mean that the artist has influence. For that matter - we could say Englebert Humperdinck was highly influential as he was one of the biggest selling male artists of the 60's but I'm sure we'd all agree he was no Elvis Presley or Roy Orbison. Heck - even Ken Dodd had a very successful singing career in the 60's too - is he influential? Kath I see your point, they're hardly influential when compared with Michael Jackson, Queen, but of the last 20 years, they stand out as an example of a great boyband, so I think for that, they deserve a place on this list
July 27, 201113 yr Indeed. There are a lot of bands who seem to have been influenced by their parents' record collection as much as their won. For example, in the mid noughties there were a lot of bands with clear Joy Division influences. I think Joy Division are probably the main example of not having to be particularly successful to become incredibly influential. Velvet Underground and Pixies are another two that immediately spring to mind. There are a hell of a lot of people who wouldn't be able to name anything by any of them (or maybe just 'Love Will Tear Us Apart') and yet they are so commonly listen amongst influential bands. In reverse there are also a hell of a lot of incredibly successful acts who don't ever get noted as influences.
July 27, 201113 yr You mean fot the UK or worldwide? (the ones I choose are in bold, and the percentages are how much I think they deserve to win) I'd cross out MJ. He hasn't really peaked during the 'core' of this period. Mariah Carey (90%). Huge tallent and probably the most influential singer for females. Everyone coppied her style. Madonna. (80%) Queen of pop. A lot of worldwide success in this period of time. Perhaps the smartest and most ground-breaking female of all time in pop. Not much of an artistic talent imo but the Queen is Queen. Take That . UK DEFINITELY worldwide NO. Boyband's are not pupular during the last decade (at least) and I doubt they have been any influential at all. I have never been a big fan but there has been undisputable talent in the group (even as four). I think if I had to choose the most influential and successful boyband WW for these 20 years I'd go with Backstreetboys. Robbie Williams. (100%) Never big in the USA but overall he could be the biggest star of these 20 years. He also has coincidence on his side here because his whole career is included in these 20 years. Influential? Yes but not the MOST influential. Coldplay (60%) Their success has been kind of quiet (still big). Beautifull songs and albums but I don't feel like they could be the most popular the best or the most influential (despite tha fact that I love the much more than half of the people I've already suggested) Linkin Park (70%) Alternative band with MASSIVE success to young people. I would expect popstars to be the most successful but this was a nice change. When alternative music becomes that mainstream and a MUST (it WAS a must) for the youth it is something special. Deserve to be in that list for that reason too imo. Evanescence (70%) For the same reasons. It was surprising to see people (both UK and Greece) that never listened to and hard rock or metal singing Bring me to Life or My Immortal non-stop. Plus the sales were vast. Influential? I don't know perhaps girls just wanted to dress a little darker :lol: Sakira. She peaked during that period of time but her sales weren't that consistant imo. Rihanna (80%) The most STANDARD popstar imo. Huge worldwide sucess + manages to stay top for many years. Influential? Not really, perhaps her hair :lol: Best? No. But most popstars come and go so being 'top 5' every year is huge. Britney (100%) Was named the princess of pop. Was the HUGEST thing when she appeared but messed up her carrer later on. She is till on and quite sucessful though. She is clearly not the best artist but her moves, her songs, they were influential. She was the first young disney-talent-popstar and a lot tried to follow her footsteps in the past. Deserves a spot imo. Avril Lavigne (70%) The hottest thing when she showed up. Rebel, different songs, her own style, huge impact on the younger generation, a lot tried to copy her. She is not big anymore but she was significant enough during her hot years to deserve a spot imo. Backstreet boys (80%) I never though they were really talented or big artists but they used to be huge. The definition of a boyband. Influential? I don't know they were trendy so I wouldn't really notice. Leona, Kelly Clarkson: The best 'winners' but I don't think they have what it takes to be in that list. Adelle, Winehouse, Gaga: MUCH tallent (different kind of!) but they were too late to be incuded imo. It would be unfair for the rest. If it was for the last 5-8 years all 3 would be in. I am not sure about Gaga because she IS the fame monster... perhaps we should include her after all. She has already been most influential. Eminem (100%) The biggest rapper of all time should be in. I never liked him and his only songs I could stand is his Dido and Rihanna duets but he is important nevertheless. He is also behind 50cent's success. I hope I am not forgetting too many... Edited July 27, 201113 yr by 7heDreamer
July 27, 201113 yr Maybe this should have been two separate threads I agree - one for 'BJ's favourite artists' and one for 'Most Influential Artists'. Something tells me that the likes of Cheryl, Sugababes, Take That, Robbie, New Kids on the Block, The Saturdays, etc, etc would still end up being in both lists! :lol: Kath
July 27, 201113 yr Unfortunately, for every one influential artist, there are 20 generic bandwagon jumpers. :( That's what makes them influential...
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