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Predict : Katherine Jenkins - Break It To My Heart 16 members have voted

  1. 1. Where do you think this will chart?

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  2. 2. Where do you want this to chart?

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  3. 3. New album - Daydream : Where will it chart?

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I think she has her best chance yet of a #1 album in two weeks time! :wub:

 

The competition is mininal, and there shouldn't be any big sales carried over from previous weeks to threaten her either.

I think she has her best chance yet of a #1 album in two weeks time! :wub:

 

The competition is mininal, and there shouldn't be any big sales carried over from previous weeks to threaten her either.

 

How well do you expect her to sell? I can see Evanescence beating her to the floor.

Evanescence and maybe Jason Derülo (out on the same week) should chart higher I'd guess. Might be low top 10, maybe just top 5. #1 that week will just be James Morrison/Kasabian/Ed Sheeran/Adele depending on who holds up the best.

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I would be surprised to see the single trouble the top 100, I would love it to be big, it's a lovely cover of a great song.

 

As for the album I'm going to say #4. Jason Derulo and Evanescence will probably open with more and Adele/James Morrison will probably be #3.

It would be interesting if it somehow turns out to be Evanescence vs. Katherine Jenkins for #1 (which I doubt as I can't see either troubling the top 3) since Katherine Jenkins' biggest/only hit to date is her cover of 'Bring Me To Life'.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, she did actually go to #62 with 'Green Green Grass Of Home' in 2006. :lol: Maybe Tom Jones could join the battle as well.

 

Has KJ ever actually released original material as a single? All her singles seem to be covers.

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Mmmm difficult one but I'm thinking brief appearance in or around Top 10 then falling quite quickly. Have no feelings one way or the other where I want it to chart.
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How well do you expect her to sell? I can see Evanescence beating her to the floor.

 

Did a time-warp just send us back to 2003?

 

Evanescence and maybe Jason Derülo (out on the same week) should chart higher I'd guess.

 

No chance - Evanescence are ancient history, and Derulo's last album made the dizzy heights of #8.

 

Katherine Jenkins has a very solid & loyal fanbase, so she should be able to see off the competition comfortably.

 

Plus there's also the fact she's the hottest women in the UK!

 

Did a time-warp just send us back to 2003?

No chance - Evanescence are ancient history, and Derulo's last album made the dizzy heights of #8.

 

Katherine Jenkins has a very solid & loyal fanbase, so she should be able to see off the competition comfortably.

 

Plus there's also the fact she's the hottest women in the UK!

 

Amy Lee is hotter and Evanescence have a loyal fanbase too.

The cover is ACTUALLY good, she's not doing it all opera :o As John said, it won't trouble the top 100, though I wouldn't mind it charting tbh.

 

As for the album, probably 4/5ish, the Evanessence and DeRulo albums will beat her plus Adele/James will hang around.

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The cover is ACTUALLY good, she's not doing it all opera :o As John said, it won't trouble the top 100, though I wouldn't mind it charting tbh.

 

As for the album, probably 4/5ish, the Evanessence and DeRulo albums will beat her plus Adele/James will hang around.

 

We seem to have a number of Evanescence fans here. :)

 

Note - their new single peaked at a mere #72, so why on earth would their album do well enough to reach the top 10, let alone T5?

 

As for Derulo, urban albums always underperform.

 

Obvoiusly I can't dispute that Adele will hang around :lol: , but she'll probably only be selling 30k - a total KJ has easily exceeded in the past.

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Did a time-warp just send us back to 2003?

No chance - Evanescence are ancient history, and Derulo's last album made the dizzy heights of #8.

 

Katherine Jenkins has a very solid & loyal fanbase, so she should be able to see off the competition comfortably.

 

Plus there's also the fact she's the hottest women in the UK!

 

Evanescence also have a very solid and loyal fanbase. 'What You Want' charted at #72 (higher than Katherine's version of 'Bring Me To Life') with absolutely no airplay or other promotion at all. I think the fanbases of the two acts are fairly similar in size. Personally I can't see Evanescence being anything other than the highest new entry. And that's not me being blinded by my love for them because I HATE Evanescence and I'd be very happy for KJ to beat them.

 

Also, Katherine's last album peaked at #6 which you may note is not much better than #8. Jason's album also stuck around for much longer than Katherine's (33 weeks top 100 in its original run plus four in re-entries, compared to just 9 weeks top 100 for 'Believe' in its original run plus eleven more in re-entries, at least one of which was fuelled by a re-release anyway). I did say 'possibly' in front of Jason because Katherine is of a genre that suits itself to album sales better but I wouldn't be surprised to see Jason chart higher.

 

Note - their new single peaked at a mere #72, so why on earth would their album do well enough to reach the top 10, let alone T5?

 

As for Derulo, urban albums always underperform.

 

Oh, I see you picked up on the single before me. As per what I just said that was #72 without any airplay at all which is pretty damn impressive for a rock band that hadn't released anything for 4 years prior.

 

And it's rap albums that underperform, not urban albums. Contemporary R&B albums do fine. An example being Jason's first.

 

And by your logic, Katherine Jenkins' Bring Me To Life peaked at #74 - how did THAT album sell enough to get to #6? That argument doesn't apply to rock bands who can get a decent sized album without any hit singles or with just one very minor one. It also doesn't apply to classical acts (like Katherine) who frequently get hit albums without any hit singles at all. BMTL charting was a bonus for Katherine.

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We seem to have a number of Evanescence fans here. :)

 

Note - their new single peaked at a mere #72, so why on earth would their album do well enough to reach the top 10, let alone T5?

 

As for Derulo, urban albums always underperform.

Yes, I am a fan of Evanessence.

And by that logic, surely Katharine should flop when ICBITMH misses top 100?

Yes his debut peaked low(ish) but it hung around ages and this time more people who bought the debut over the course of it's run rather than first week will buy Future History on it's first week.

 

And one last thing, why start a prediction thread when you won't accept the predictions being given?

We seem to have a number of Evanescence fans here. :)

 

Note - their new single peaked at a mere #72, so why on earth would their album do well enough to reach the top 10, let alone T5?

 

As for Derulo, urban albums always underperform.

 

its hardly a rarity for an underperforming lead single to be followed by an initially well charting album, plus Evanescence are far more of an albums act than Katherine Jenkins anyway (even though she's been around longer)

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Evanescence also have a very solid and loyal fanbase. 'What You Want' charted at #72 (higher than Katherine's version of 'Bring Me To Life') with absolutely no airplay or other promotion at all. I think the fanbases of the two acts are fairly similar in size. Personally I can't see Evanescence being anything other than the highest new entry. And that's not me being blinded by my love for them because I HATE Evanescence and I'd be very happy for KJ to beat them.

 

But how do you measure the solidity & loyalty of a fanbase, where the artist has only released 2 albums - the last of those 5 years ago? After all, Dido waited 5 years to release her 3rd album, and look what happened to that...

 

Also, Katherine's last album peaked at #6 which you may note is not much better than #8.

 

Although that should be qualified by the fact it was released much closer to Xmas, when overall sales were much higher...

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its hardly a rarity for an underperforming lead single to be followed by an initially well charting album, plus Evanescence are far more of an albums act than Katherine Jenkins anyway (even though she's been around longer)

 

Yuor first point can be true, although I suspect it's more the case for bands with long track records.

 

As for the 2nd, I can't agree - Evanescence have had a #1 single, so they can hardly be less of a singles act than KJ. :)

Fair play though, as much is it was a flop, Dido did manage no.2 with it even when the lead single made a disappointing no.54. I could definitely see Evanescence top 5 that week.
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And one last thing, why start a prediction thread when you won't accept the predictions being given?

 

Surely expressing differing opinions is what prediction threads are all about?

Let's have a look at all the top 5 albums of 2011 that had no top 40 hits lifted off them:

 

Red Hot Chili Peppers - I'm With You (#44 The Adventures Of Rain Dance Maggie)

Elbow - Build A Rocket Boys! (no charting singles)

Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues (no charting singles)

Hugh Laurie - Let Them Talk (no charting singles)

Joe McElderry - Classic (no charting singles)

Kate Bush - Director's Cut (no charting singles)

Amy Winehouse - Frank (#71 Stronger Than Me, #57 Take The Box, #60 In My Bed, #69 Fuck Me Pumps)

Ronan Keating and Burt Bacharach - When Ronan Met Burt (no charting singles)

The Strokes - Angles (#47 Under Cover Of Darkness)

White Lies - Ritual (#42 Bigger Than Us)

Bon Iver - Bon Iver (no charting singles)

Caro Emerald - Deleted Scenes From The Cutting Room Floor (#65 A Night Like This, #84 That Man)

Eva Cassidy - Simply Eva (no charting singles)

Jackie Evancho - Dream With Me (no charting singles)

Laura Marling - A Creature I Don't Know (no charting singles)

The Overtones - Good Ol' Fashioned Love (no charting singles)

The Pierces - You & I (#46 You'll Be Mine)

The Horrors - Skying (#63 Still Life)

R.E.M. - Collapse Into Now (no charting singles)

 

With the sole exception of 'Frank' which only charted because of Amy dying, every single one of these is by either a rock/indie band or an act that fits into a genre with an older target audience (classical, blues, folk etc.). So it's pretty useless applying the 'there weren't any successful singles so the album will flop' logic when talking about Evanescence (or Katherine Jenkins for that matter).

 

(I've also left out The Prodigy's 'World On Fire (Live)' as although no singles were actually pulled from it it contains quite a few top 40 hits, albeit in live form)

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