omg I know Alex Day he's amazing!

The Children In Need Medley is proof that it CAN happen, the CD pre-orders for "Wherever You Are" were so vast I think we assumed there'd be a catch somewhere.

 

I'd not thought of that, but then that was a song that relied VASTLY on the video (I'd be interested to know who bought it for the music!) and is therefore a real anomaly. It was the DVD single that rightfully sold far more than any other format whereas this is a CD single that's had vast pre-orders, meaning that people are far more interested in the song (and cause). It will probably be bigger physically than digitally but it had been suggested on here by quite a few people that it wouldn't take off on iTunes at all. Pretty much everybody I know under the age of 65 owns an iPod/uses iTunes so it seemed to me like that was an old fashioned view of music consumption in the digital age. Whilst it's true that artists that appeal to older fans tend to do far better in the album chart, there will still always be a crossover into the singles chart if the demand for a song is high enough imo.

 

On a completely separate note, who on earth thought that releasing Alexandra Stan's Get Back (ASAP) on xmas week would be a good idea. I despair at AATW sometimes, it will get completely lost and forgotten about amongst the hype of everything else :drama:

The Children In Need Medley is proof that it CAN happen, the CD pre-orders for "Wherever You Are" were so vast I think we assumed there'd be a catch somewhere.

 

But the CIN Medley was completely different because people bought it for the video, not the song, I loved it, it's absolutely brilliant and I still love watching it, but I have never had any desire at all to listen to song on its own, and I'm fairly sure at least 90% of people who bought it will feel the same, they either have to buy the Physical or the Download EP.

 

This just proves that the download, and therefore singles, market is shifting back towards the older listener. In the early days of downloads, the young computer-savvy music fan made the lion's share of purchases, but now iPods and their equivalent are widespread and plenty of over-fifties know their way around the internet, it's no longer true that the Radio 1 playlist is that important.

 

ISTM that older fans are mostly buying non-T200 singles - basically oldies, while most current music is bought by youngsters.

 

Smells like teen spirit #39 & #107

bit off topic but could people maybe not do initials for songs and just be bothered to write them in full?! still trying to work out what ISTM and AATW are, sorry it's just I never get them:/

bit off topic but could people maybe not do initials for songs and just be bothered to write them in full?! still trying to work out what ISTM and AATW are, sorry it's just I never get them:/

I think AATW is the record label All Around The World

Shame there's no instrumental version of Wherever You Are available, the music is stunning. Anything involving a piano and sweeping strings is pretty much a winner with me. According to the download artwork, proceeds aren't going to Help For Heroes as had been mentioned elsewhere but are being split between SSAFA Forces Help and The Royal British Legion. I've not actually heard of the former before but the latter is recognisable as we all raise money for it with the poppy appeal every year anyway (well, those of us who buy/wear poppy's!) so I'd say that they're worthy causes.

bit off topic but could people maybe not do initials for songs and just be bothered to write them in full?! still trying to work out what ISTM and AATW are, sorry it's just I never get them:/

 

Sorry, AATW is a common abbreviation for the record label All Around The World (the company even refer to it as that themselves). I very rarely write song names with initials - usually only in artist forums where they have more meaning as fan groups commonly abbreviate them amongst one another.

bit off topic but could people maybe not do initials for songs and just be bothered to write them in full?! still trying to work out what ISTM and AATW are, sorry it's just I never get them:/

 

And maybe you could put capital letters at the begining of sentences? :kink:

I agree with you about initials thoough.

The download market IS showing some signs of shifting toeards the older generation I think, but it's too early to say older people have more power in the charts and it's nonsensical to suggest that Radio 1 doesn't matter any more.

I didn't mean to suggest that Radio 1 doesn't matter any more. Rather that it isn't the be all and end all when it comes to the singles market. Not long ago I'd have said Radio 1 for singles, and Radio 2 for albums, but the lines have blurred.

 

ISTM that older fans are mostly buying non-T200 singles - basically oldies, while most current music is bought by youngsters.

I would argue that when an older music fan gets their first iPod, they will be trawling iTunes etc for some of their favourites from yesteryear. They are also more likely to hear an old song that they love on a tv show and remember how much they love it, and make a point of downloading it. However, I think we can see from the success of this single that there is a substantial market of people with older fashioned tastes who are prepared to buy "current music". Current music being defined as what's out now, rather than what is fashionable with teenagers.

 

I'm sure there is a shift in the Radio 2 and generally older music fans who will download individual contemporary tracks these days.

alex day 12 on my itunes feed.

LOL I saw that Alex Day video the other day didn't think it was going to be a hit

 

Forever Yours #9 :o

However, I think we can see from the success of this single that there is a substantial market of people with older fashioned tastes who are prepared to buy "current music". Current music being defined as what's out now, rather than what is fashionable with teenagers.

 

I'm sure there is a shift in the Radio 2 and generally older music fans who will download individual contemporary tracks these days.

 

I agree, the Year to Date chart seems to support the fact that the charts are becoming less about teenagers. Yes, young people still dominate them, always have done and probably always will aside from the odd few singles, but many of the really big sellers this year (Someone Like You, Moves Like Jagger, The A Team, Jar Of Hearts) have the sort of appeal that attracts old and young downloaders alike. MOR and ballads have returned in force this year.

 

With this in mind, I'm wondering how long it will take Cliff Richard to realise that a large chunk of his fanbase are now downloading. As long as he gets a song that connects with a large audience like The Millennium Prayer did then he could still quite feasibly get a #1. In fact the types of buyers of The Millennium Prayer and Wherever We Are probably aren't vastly different. He'll be planning his xmas 2012 chart assault as we speak :lol:

 

On a separate note, wow at Alex Day, I had no idea who he even was - the song's not bad on first listen - the production isn't amazingly accomplished but he's unsigned so that's fair enough. Xmas top three of Miltary Wives, Alex Day and Little Mix? I'm wondering what's going on with Nirvana, doesn't look like much of a threat to the xmas top three at the moment, but I can't remember how quickly Rage climbed in 2009...still, I wasn't expecting much of a conversion rate from the Facebook group to sales so it's not that much of a surprise to me if it doesn't do much more than its original #7 peak. 60k was my sales estimate for it on my blog post.

Question? something that is really bugging me

 

On the actual cover it has Military Wives with Gareth Malone. On iTunes its Military Wives, Gareth Malone & London Metropolitan Orchestra. At the moment I'm using the credit on the actual cover without the Orchestra bit.

11. Levels (Radio Edit) - Avicii :(

 

9. Forever Yours - Alex Day

50. Forever Yours (live Piano Version) - Alex Day

68. Forever Yours (vocal Remix) - Alex Day

77. Forever Yours (demo Version) - Alex Day

86. Forever Yours (Blue Version) - Alex Day

94. Forever Yours [Lastufka Remix] - Alex Day

122. Forever Yours (instrumental) - Alex Day

127. Forever Yours (Tom Milsom Remix) - Alex Day

130. Forever Yours (BillTV-Mickeleh Remix) - Alex Day

This is reminding me of that song by The Cameleonz that had about 19 versions charting - but these Alex Day versions are all charting higher. He could have 9 versions in the top 100 soon :mellow:

 

36. Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana

103. Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana

:(

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The funny thing about the Alex Day video is that it gets more professional as it goes along. It's all a big con really. They tried to make it look amateurish but really they knew what they were doing.

When you combine Alex Day's other versions surely he has a slim chance of the #1 :heehee:

Is "ASAP" not doing anything yet? Radio 1 B-List of death strikes again.