I didn't say anything about promo! TV I meant playing of the video. It's been at #27 for a second week in a row hardly great support. Also radio it isn't top 50. So to climb to #5 today when it could of started falling already from xfactor exposure I think is great for Trouble.

Luckily the promo slots are going to be of great help (Alan Carr Friday night) but its the support from tv/radio that's been disapponting. It's all good performing on a big show but radio an tv play Is the best way to sell a song and promote a song!

I didn't say anything about promo! TV I meant playing of the video. It's been at #27 for a second week in a row hardly great support. Also radio it isn't top 50. So to climb to #5 today when it could of started falling already from xfactor exposure I think is great for Trouble.

Luckily the promo slots are going to be of great help (Alan Carr Friday night) but its the support from tv/radio that's been disapponting. It's all good performing on a big show but radio an tv play Is the best way to sell a song and promote a song!

Agere and what people also need to remember is that whilst X Factor gets 9-10 million viewers, the #50 on Radio Airplay got 17.68 million listens last week, and Leona as you say isn't top 50 herself on Radio play.

Agere and what people also need to remember is that whilst X Factor gets 9-10 million viewers, the #50 on Radio Airplay got 17.68 million listens last week, and Leona as you say isn't top 50 herself on Radio play.

 

Of course she does have other assets, as rather ably demonstrated in your picture... ;)

Exactly. You have to look at the bigger picture. A song doesn't sell a huge amount in total with one performance, a song sells a huge amount when it is being played across the country to millions of people every day for a good few months. I'm hoping by Sunday Leona will be somewhere in top 50 on radio and t least top 20 on TV. Hope so anyway. As I said though so chuffed with #5 at the mo. :D

 

 

People can criticise Leona for only doing as well as she is due to XF but that performance slot doesn't even begin to make up for the undeserved snub from Capital, Kiss and other commercial radio stations. 'Trouble' is a great song that would've been all over the radio if Emeli released it. -_-

People can criticise Leona for only doing as well as she is due to XF but that performance slot doesn't even begin to make up for the undeserved snub from Capital, Kiss and other commercial radio stations. 'Trouble' is a great song that would've been all over the radio if Emeli released it. -_-

 

Amen.

 

Completely over the moon that she is in the Top 5. :wub: and to think people were saying it would do a My Wicked Heart <_<

I think it's rather rich for people to be complaining about the lack of support being given to Leona Lewis. A singer who has had more promo than most singers put together when you take everything into account (the extortionate amount of publicity at the start of her career for example), you have to take the smooth with the rough, I know it's not leona's fault but if you get loads of support no matter how good or bad your records are at the start of your career, then you can't complain when you don't get support for a good record.

Lol I think people are always quick to jump on the old bandwagon 'that artist is so over - they had their big hits' it just seems to be something people do build something/someone up and then see them fall. Well I'm glad leona is sitting in the top 5 right now despite the UK stations showing little backing, what this shows is people are still interested in Leona and that they should jump on board with trouble, never to late! Lol :P

I think it's rather rich for people to be complaining about the lack of support being given to Leona Lewis. A singer who has had more promo than most singers put together when you take everything into account (the extortionate amount of publicity at the start of her career for example), you have to take the smooth with the rough, I know it's not leona's fault but if you get loads of support no matter how good or bad your records are at the start of your career, then you can't complain when you don't get support for a good record.

No-one's really doing that though - just trying to put a bit of context out there for the posters (not yourself) that are claiming that she is getting great promo for this single.

 

The once, twice, three times benefit that repeated radio plays can have on people initially disliking a song but that can grow to love a song shouldn't be underestimated either!

It's funny how some radio stations decide what people want to hear, and won't budge even with lots of evidence to the contrary.

 

A good example is Jealousy by Will Young - snubbed by Radio 1 and Capital, it became a huge hit nontheless, and the album went on to do well too.

 

 

No-one's really doing that though - just trying to put a bit of context out there for the posters (not yourself) that are claiming that she is getting great promo for this single.

 

The once, twice, three times benefit that repeated radio plays can have on people initially disliking a song but that can grow to love a song shouldn't be underestimated either!

Oh indeed so, yet Leona launches every new album of hers off the back of "X Factor" performances and most acts would give their right arm for that kind of promo (if they weren't snobbish about not appearing on the program that is) and Saturday prime time TV is a major boost to any act. Given that, then Cowell's clear preference for his own acts (understandable) is a kind of playlisting of sorts, even worse as ultimately it benefits only him.

No offense, but anybody who thinks an X Factor performance is better than Capital support is a bit... An X Factor performance got Let Me Love You probably a few thousand sales by the looks of things, the radio airplay (especially Capital) has got the songs hundreds of thousands of sales.

 

TV performances are pretty irrelevent in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure Pitbull and Flo Rida will agree with me.

No offense, but anybody who thinks an X Factor performance is better than Capital support is a bit... An X Factor performance got Let Me Love You probably a few thousand sales by the looks of things, the radio airplay (especially Capital) has got the songs hundreds of thousands of sales.

 

TV performances are pretty irrelevent in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure Pitbull and Flo Rida will agree with me.

No offense but you didn't really read what I wrote. I didn't say that X Factor was BETTER than Capital support, I said that it was a valuable piece of promo that most bands would be more than happy to get but can't because they aren't Cowell's pet projects. A look at the list of No 1 hits from late 2009 for example shows a clear correlation between X Factor performances and the No 1 slot. Appearing on X Factor won't guarantee you a No 1 hit but to deny that is promotion open to a select few acts or that it doesn't benefit those acts is also wrong.

 

We'll never know how many copies an X Factor performance gets you over and above just normal radioplay, doubtless that is crucial, my point is that it is never a level playing field, sometimes you're on top and sometimes you're not.

No offense but you didn't really read what I wrote. I didn't say that X Factor was BETTER than Capital support, I said that it was a valuable piece of promo that most bands would be more than happy to get but can't because they aren't Cowell's pet projects. A look at the list of No 1 hits from late 2009 for example shows a clear correlation between X Factor performances and the No 1 slot. Appearing on X Factor won't guarantee you a No 1 hit but to deny that is promotion open to a select few acts or that it doesn't benefit those acts is also wrong.

 

We'll never know how many copies an X Factor performance gets you over and above just normal radioplay, doubtless that is crucial, my point is that it is never a level playing field, sometimes you're on top and sometimes you're not.

 

A look at 2010 shows a clear lack of correlation between the number 1 and XF though - in fact performing on the show almost guarateed you not to go to number 1 ;)

 

 

^ Which I also covered in my post, in the next sentence in fact.

If artists could decide wether to have continued radio and tv support for their singles or a big promo slot for the single every time they would choose radio and tv without a doubt. A performance on something like the X Factor is like a bonus.

I think what people have to bear in mind is that you are comparing two different sorts of promotion that work in very different ways.

 

Radio is something you obviously listen to, you don't have a visual to go with it, right now my mum has Radio 2 on and is working in the kitchen, while I'm "working" in the living room next door. It's on, I can hear the music being played, but I'm only half listening to it, not really concentrating on it, but every so often a song might come on that catches my attention and I listen a bit more so to speak.

 

TV is as much about the visual as to what you're listening to, you're more likely to be sitting watching the singer perform, you're a bit more attentive. There might be other things going on, (someone talking over it) but especially a show like X Factor, people are more likely to have their attention on it then they would to radio.

 

This means TV is alot more instant, it's why songs sky rocket on Itunes, despite the fact TV will get lesser numbers then radio, one performance can potentially change a course of where I single would chart. But because it is instant, it is also forgotten if the performance is not mind-blowing enough, so thats why it can start to retreat if it has nothing to back it up.

 

In regards to Leona's Trouble, it's something where before if I had heard it on radio, I probably didn't pay much attention to it, but after the performance, I can now recognise the first few seconds of the song, when I hear it again and I'm more attentive to it. If radio have started to play the song a bit more since the performance, then it could stand to reason why it's holding up on Itunes, maybe?

It's funny how some radio stations decide what people want to hear, and won't budge even with lots of evidence to the contrary.

 

A good example is Jealousy by Will Young - snubbed by Radio 1 and Capital, it became a huge hit nontheless, and the album went on to do well too.

 

It seems once they decide not to play you then that's it. It happens to all artists sooner or later. Then the real acid test for an artist starts. It's so easy to be successful when your song is hammered on tv & radio everywhere.

 

Will has continued to have very healthy album sales despite no support from radio 1 for the last 7 years and none from Capital for 4 years. Welcome to the tough music world Leona & her fans. ;)

He's managed this because he's worked hard building up a loyal and solid fanbase from all his gigs & fortunately had great support from radio 2. Leona needs to do the same. Instead of disappearing for years & lining her pockets with corporate gigs abroad. You have to nuture a fanbase as it doesn't matter who you are you'll soon be forgotten.

 

Out of interest can I ask how many tracks are co-written by Leona on Glassheart & if there are lots of writers involved with each track?

Edited October 9, 201212 yr by truly talented

People can criticise Leona for only doing as well as she is due to XF but that performance slot doesn't even begin to make up for the undeserved snub from Capital, Kiss and other commercial radio stations. 'Trouble' is a great song that would've been all over the radio if Emeli released it. -_-

 

I really dont get that, why aren't they supporting her why did she do wrong?? And capital snubbing her is not a surprise at all because they havent supported her in years.

I really dont get the lack of radio support for leona, what if 1 day radio 1 decides to no longer playlist her? #Scary