Only reason Hillary will be the Democratic nominee is that the Obama administration won't do anything to prosecute her for the email fiasco she's created over her head....and that the Democrats don't have a candidate who's strong enough to unseat her from her position.....

 

At this stage, which is WAY too early to tell yet, I'm thinking Dr. Ben Carson will have the best chance to beat Hillary for the general elections here November next year.....I think Donald Trump's campaign will fizzle out by the time the Republican convention is held next August or whenever it's held.....Marco Rubio has an outside shot to be the nominee, and Carly Fiorina is fading, although I'd like to see her as the nominee, since she's much more preferable as a woman candidate to me than Hillary will ever be.....

 

Thanks for input from across the pond! Agree that Trump's campaign will surely fizzle out. Actually I'd like to see a two woman contest, Fiorina v Clinton but reckon Jeb will be her opponent.

It's still a long way out but pretty much every poll I've seen has her beating them all but Carson. Now that he seems to be moving ahead in the polls a bit, it could be a concern.

 

I thought Carson was a candidate mainly going to be favoured by the religious right, no? If he gets the nomination, surely he'd get torn apart for things like not knowing basic aspects of international discourse. I mean, he'd do well but I can't see him beating Hillary.

Rubio is far from an 'outside shot' by this stage, I haven't watched the last debate but what I gather from it is Jeb did atrociously at it and Rubio is now the firm favourite of the establishment. And regardless of what the polls say at the moment I'd be surprised if one of the establishment candidates (most likely Rubio) doesn't win the nomination. Carson winning would be as disastrous if not even moreso than Trump winning (because Carson could genuinely beat Hillary to the job he's not even remotely qualified for! Hooray). Unfortunately I think there's a very good chance Rubio could win the general election as well. Basically, Trump to win pls.

Carson isn't a concern (and doesn't stand a chance of winning anyhow - not that he would be a concern if he did win, because they could just quote him verbatim and you'd have an easy majority of Americans repulsed by what he's come out with). It's Rubio I fear.

To be honest, I'm more repulsed by the drivel of Hillary and her cronies than Ben Carson's comments.....even Donald Trump and his rantings make more sense than Hillary.....

To be honest, I'm more repulsed by the drivel of Hillary and her cronies than Ben Carson's comments.....even Donald Trump and his rantings make more sense than Hillary.....

I worry for you.

 

Rubio would be a threat and would probably delay Texas going blue for a bit longer with the Hispanic vote. Long term that's going to kill the GOP.

Actually, I worry for everyone who's been sucked in by Hillary's fascist socialism......

 

Let me ask this, do you people in the UK clamor about redistributing the wealth of those who've earned it, including the monarchy?

Actually, I worry for everyone who's been sucked in by Hillary's fascist socialism......

 

Let me ask this, do you people in the UK clamor about redistributing the wealth of those who've earned it, including the monarchy?

 

I'm not too sure these words are supposed to go together...

Fascist socialism? While I'll just ignore how that makes zero sense as a term, and especially as something to apply to a centre-right candidate, at least as far as non-Americans see the political spectrum Clinton is that. What must you think of Sanders? (actually don't answer that)

 

The top 1% has never been a good thing and life is not all about the acquisition of wealth. But even so I don't see how anyone could really see Clinton as the worst of anything. The worst I'd apply to her is that she's appealing too much to all bases.

Actually, I worry for everyone who's been sucked in by Hillary's fascist socialism......

 

Let me ask this, do you people in the UK clamor about redistributing the wealth of those who've earned it, including the monarchy?

 

The UK tends to fall into two categories: the well-off/rich who love things to stay as they are because they can buy their children a future and keep a large proportion of their money, and the poorer parts who feel they work just as hard as the rich but dont get the same financial reward or future or education and chances in life. Nobody is saying make the rich poor, just that they do very well out of a system that relies on cheap labour. What annoys me is they seem to think they deserve more money than other people because they've been lucky (or more ruthless) when fairly obviously the corrupt and stupid rich and powerful are the ones that mess up the economy and make huge mistakes that hammer the poor - the poor people cleaning floors or cutting grass or emptying bins have done nothing to harm society......

 

The Right-wing section of the USA seems to see any attempt to give the unfortunates in society a helping hand as in some way robbing the rich, rather then helping fellow Americans and helping to keep a fair and stable society which allows them to do well out of it. All men are created equal...but sadly that part of the Constitution gets forgotten at times...

 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

 

certainly a quote I believe in...!

Actually, I worry for everyone who's been sucked in by Hillary's fascist socialism......

 

Let me ask this, do you people in the UK clamor about redistributing the wealth of those who've earned it, including the monarchy?

There are plenty of people in the UK who want to redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor. Unfortunately, we have a government that wants to do the opposite.

 

Your question is based on the premise that all wealthy people have somehow "earned" their money. How did Cameron "earn" his wealth?

 

In the 1970s, the highest paid executives were paid around 40 times their lowest-paid staff. Now, the ratio is around 140 - 1 (a lot higher in some companies). Let's put that another way. By the end of the first week of the year, that executive will already have "earned" almost three times as much ads their lowest-paid staff will earn all year. Is their contribution to the company in one week really worth three times as much as other staff will contribute all year?

 

We can accept that the likes of Adele or JK Rowling's income is directly related to their performance. People buy their products, so they make money. But, with major companies, the relationship is not as clear-cut.

To be honest, I have no use really for any of the political parties in this country, as I find most of the people in them to be self-serving self-centered twats.....to me, the Democrats want to try and pander to special interest groups like Black Lives Matter, Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition....and the Republicans pander to big business......Obama hasn't made my life any better, especially with Obamacare, and the Republicans don't give two tits about someone in my position.....that's why I'm rooting for one of the outsiders like Donald Trump, Ben Carson or Carly Fiorina as they buck against the current establishment.....

 

 

With Bernie Sanders, at least he has the balls to tell it like it is with his political leanings, for which I give him credit, but, try to get Hillary to say the same thing, forget it......besides, Bernie's got no chance in hell against Hillary.....

Actually, I worry for everyone who's been sucked in by Hillary's fascist socialism......

 

Let me ask this, do you people in the UK clamor about redistributing the wealth of those who've earned it, including the monarchy?

LOL. Okay, was the States under Eisenhower a 'fascist socialist' nation? How about under Reagan, when taxes were higher than they are now?

 

Also, super cute that you think the monarchy in any way earned anything. You call yourself an American?

You think 'Black Lives Matter' is a 'special' interest? As opposed to the basic, American, constitutional interest of 'hey, we'd quite like to not be treated differently for the colour of our skin'?.

 

That said I'm not really sure you're even clear on what you think, given in one breath you're decrying Hillary Clinton as a 'fascist socialist' but then in another complimenting Bernie Sanders for 'telling it like it is'. It's a bit like saying Subway are poisoning us all with unhealthy food but McDonald's is just a cute treat.

As to Hillary, she hides too much behind her 'I didn't do it or know it' façade, in my opinion, and really only cares about herself.....at least with Bernie Sanders, he's not hiding behind any political façade.....

 

 

As to Black Lives Matter, yes, they're a special interest group, still wanting their free hand outs, as well as being a hate group themselves, espousing beliefs that all cops must die, regardless of skin color.....same thing with the Rainbow Coalition, they're all about what the government can give them as a free hand out instead of completing school and working for it......

Can we just not.

Not to worry, this will be my last post in this thread.....

As to Black Lives Matter, yes, they're a special interest group, still wanting their free hand outs, as well as being a hate group themselves, espousing beliefs that all cops must die, regardless of skin color.....same thing with the Rainbow Coalition, they're all about what the government can give them as a free hand out instead of completing school and working for it......

Jesus bloody Christ. Even MARCO SODDING RUBIO has a bit more respect for Black Lives Matter's position than that.

Jesus, Trump even makes Boris look good.

 

The frightening thing about Trump is that he is still the Republican front-runner only eight weeks away from the first votes. Most people assumed his campaign would have self-destructed by now, but his pronouncements just get more and more extreme.