Interesting discussion, I definitely think things are gonna move to streaming, it's kind of a shame but at the same time it has its benefits

Edited April 15, 201312 yr by Tombo

SO how long before the streaming chart is incorporated - knowing the industry they will wait until the download no1 is barely over 20k again lol - what will they incorportate though - Spootify & Youtube?

SO how long before the streaming chart is incorporated - knowing the industry they will wait until the download no1 is barely over 20k again lol - what will they incorportate though - Spootify & Youtube?

 

maybe the UK Chart is waiting until streaming revenue surpass singles download revenue.....

 

At the current rate of growth, streaming revenue will surpass singles download revenue in the USA in about 10 months.

 

Streaming: $1,032.8 million USD (up 59%)

Singles Download: $1,623.6 million USD (up 6.7%)

Album Download: $1,204.8 million USD (up 12.5%)

Physical CD Album: $2,532 million USD (down 18.3%)

 

no idea when it might happen in the UK.

I doubt it'll ever happen. It's been a sales only chart for over 60 years and I really can't see them changing that any time soon.

For older people who were around when CD singles were big, which year would you compare that for the state of the download market right now?

I doubt it'll ever happen. It's been a sales only chart for over 60 years and I really can't see them changing that any time soon.

 

never say never

 

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/research/40-years-of-music-industry-change.gif

 

look at the evolution of music consumption. Streaming is the next stage.

 

 

UK Chart could do something like this:

 

1 sales = 1 point

100 on-demand streams = 1 point

Edited April 15, 201312 yr by Dust2

For older people who were around when CD singles were big, which year would you compare that for the state of the download market right now?

Possibly about 1997 when the singles market was last at its peak. Perhaps even 1998 when overall market sales were still high but sales needed to reach the top 5, top 10, top 20 etc started to decline.

 

So we should potentially start seeing crap sales in 2017/2018 then? How exciting.

http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?p=15076055

 

Top50 Most Popular Tracks on Spotify

 

1. Gotye f/Kimbra - "Somebody That I Used To Know" 128,164,582

2. Carly Rae Jepsen - "Call Me Maybe" 115,755,417

3. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis f/Wanz - "Thrift Shop" 109,015,603

4. David Guetta f/Sia - "Titanium" 100,402,654

5. Fun. f/Janelle Monae - "We Are Young" 99,864,430

6. Swedish House Mafia - "Don't You Worry Child" 98,769,921

7. Rihanna f/Calvin Harris - "We Found Love" 93,308,161

8. Rihanna - "Diamonds" 91,737,651

9. Flo Rida - "Whistle" 89,828,504

10. Eminem f/Rihanna - "Love The Way You Lie" 89,296,669

11. Imagine Dragons - "Radioactive" 88,682,890

12. ADELE - "Rolling in The Deep" 84,912,543

13. PSY - "Gangnam Style" 83,394,661

14. The Script f/will.i.am - "Hall Of Fame" 83,159,993

15. Maroon 5 f/Wiz Khalifa - "Payphone" 80,698,582

16. Will.i.am f/Britney Spears - "Scream & Shout" 79,481,597

17. Flo Rida f/Sia - "Wild Ones" 77,851,942

18. Fun. - "Some Nights" 76,135,40

19. Train - "Drive By" 73,846,334

20. The Lumineers - "Ho Hey" 72,826,508

21. Bruno Mars - "Locked Out Of Heaven" 71,845,576

22. Avicii - "Levels" 70,373,635

23. LMFAO f/Lauren Bennett & GoonRock - "Party Rock Anthem" 70,362,728

24. Maroon 5 - "One More Night" 70,141,056

25. Maroon 5 f/Christina Aguilera - "Moves Like Jagger" 68,308,532

26. LMFAO - "Sexy And I Know It" 68,099,694

27. Skrillex f/Sirah - "Bangarang" 66,094,249

28. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis f/Ray Dalton - "Can't Hold Us" 64,750,923

29. Rihanna - "Only Girl (In The World)" 64,754,673

30. David Guetta f/Akon - "Sexy Bitch" 63,147,475

31. Flo Rida - "Good Feeling" 62,702,913

32. Bruno Mars - "Just The Way You Are" 61,199,376

33. Calvin Harris f/Florence Welch - "Sweet Nothing" 61,770,486

34. JAY Z & Kanye West - "****** In Paris" 61,564,154

35. Passenger - "Let Her Go" 59,399,678

36. Pitbull f/Ne-Yo,Afrojack & Nayer - "Give Me Everything" 59,047,133

37. AWOLNATION - "Sail" 58,443,225

38. Bruno Mars - "Grenade" 57,875,366

39. David Guetta f/Sia - "She Wolf (Falling to Pieces)" 57,345,231

40. Ed Sheeran - "The A Team" 57,239,931

41. Wiz Khalifa & Snoop Dogg f/Bruno Mars - "Young, Wild & Free" 56,470,241

42. The Black Eyed Peas - "I Gotta Feeling" 55,446,945

43. One Direction - "What Makes You Beautiful" 54,113,844

44. David Guetta f/Usher - "Without You" 53,632,419

45. David Guetta f/Flo Rida & Nicki Minaj - "Where Them Girls At" 53,621,527

46. Ke$ha - "Die Young" 53,075,782

47. Eminem - "Not Afraid" 52,938,642

48. Calvin Harris - "Feel So Close" 52,744,300

49. Flo Rida - "I Cry" 51,854,631

50. Taylor Swift - "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" 51,784,094

 

Very close to make it:

Lady GaGa - "Bad Romance" 51,323,930

Train - "Hey, Soul Sister" 51,036,052

ADELE - "Someone Like You" 50,022,226

Rihanna - "Where Have You Been" 49,213,176

 

credit to I'mRihannaFan for the list

 

 

 

WEEKLY Spotify Charts

 

http://charts.spotify.com/

Top50 Most Popular Tracks on Spotify

 

1. Gotye f/Kimbra - "Somebody That I Used To Know" 128,164,582

 

Very deserved #1 (for once :lol:). Such an addictive song.

 

I guess back in 2011 Love the Way You Lie would've been the all-time #1, as all the songs ahead of it are newer.

I haven't really used the streaming services , is there a way to save the albums or playlists with paid subscriptions services ? when you don't have access to 3G/4G network or internet for that matter like on International Flights , wifi signal in airplanes right now don't allow for much streaming

I stream on my laptop. Not on my phone because it costs money to do that.

I stream on my laptop. Not on my phone because it costs money to do that.

But do you stream when you fly if internet is possible ? what do you do if its not ?

Edited July 12, 201311 yr by ericinatlanta

I think digital sales will reach a peak either this year or next year - after this a stable period followed by a slow decline is the most likely outcome. Streaming is going to become an ever more attractive means of consuming music, especially with super fast broadband and 4G being rolled out over the middle part of this decade.

I haven't really used the streaming services , is there a way to save the albums or playlists with paid subscriptions services ? when you don't have access to 3G/4G network or internet for that matter like on International Flights , wifi signal in airplanes right now don't allow for much streaming

 

On Spotify you can sync tracks offline, which means you can listen to them without an Internet connection. I've currently got a few hundred tracks synced offline on my phone, which I listen to when I'm away from a free Internet connection. So if I was on a plane or something I could be playing the songs I synced offline on Spotify.

But do you stream when you fly if internet is possible ? what do you do if its not ?

 

 

No. I dont fly anywhere - no money to go anywhere.

 

Even if I did it wouldn't effect me that much. I dont consume all of my music through streaming - maybe 10% at the moment as I have loads of mp3s on my phone, my computer and my mp3 player that I listen to mostly.

 

Even then, I dont really like listening to music while flying.

Edited July 13, 201311 yr by AnthonyT

I think I agree with one of the previous posters - it'll probably even out but I doubt the download will die out like the CD single has. Spotify etc is all very well and good for those that are zooming around with hi-tech high speed connections all the time but it'd need to be much more accessible/appealing before it had any kind of effect. The most that I use it for is just to enter competitions that artists I like set up (e.g. Send us your playlist of summer hits for a chance to meet us) or to see if an album I'm sat on the fence about is worth my time and investment in a full copy - to take a recent example I listened to Mark Owen's new album on there before I brought it.

Edited July 15, 201311 yr by ThePensmith

Spotify revenue by year

 

2008: $0.612 million USD

2009: $18.1 million USD

2010: $99 million USD

2011: $236.4 million USD

2012: $577 million USD

 

Revenue has more than double each year....

 

 

 

Pandora revenue by year

 

2008: $25 mil

2009: $50 mil

2010: $137.7 mil

2011: $274.3 mil

2012: $427.1 mil

I think I agree with one of the previous posters - it'll probably even out but I doubt the download will die out like the CD single has. Spotify etc is all very well and good for those that are zooming around with hi-tech high speed connections all the time but it'd need to be much more accessible/appealing before it had any kind of effect. The most that I use it for is just to enter competitions that artists I like set up (e.g. Send us your playlist of summer hits for a chance to meet us) or to see if an album I'm sat on the fence about is worth my time and investment in a full copy - to take a recent example I listened to Mark Owen's new album on there before I brought it.

 

But what about in years to come when we all have super fast connections wherever we go? Streaming will be much more convenient then.

Edited August 15, 201311 yr by AcerBen