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In regards to the pulling down the shorts, it was in a playful way. However, there would be a lot more anger if a guy had done it to a girl even with the same intentions, not necessarily more anger on here but on Twitter and stuff.

No matter if it was playful or not, doing that might cause offense with viewers, as in 'erm i don't want to see Daley's junk on TV bye'.

Oh yeah, definitely. But people (not on here) are asking why she was only given a warning. It's frustrating! Lol.

Confirmed that Emma will be interviewing Daley tonight!

Caught up with a good week's worth of episodes. The Daley/Hazel mess intrigued me since there was such a mixed response, but now that I've seen it, I can't believe people are actually defending him, or saying she was equally to blame. I'm no fan of Hazel, but he grabbed her by the throat! That's pretty inecusable. Giving Hazel a warning as well made sense though, and I think the show handled everything as well as they could have. Daley's lack of any understanding that he'd done wrong, and the fact that he was blaming her as he left just said it all really. What a vile man.

 

Dan and Callum have both grown on me recently, whilst I just have no time for Jackie and the twins now. I wish Jack and Joe were separate housemates really, as I don't think one is as bad as the other, and they seem to have different personalities, unlike Sam and Amanda of BB8.

I'm getting the whole 'Joe is worse than Jack' thing (I think that's the right way round), I find them both totally insufferable. I honestly prefer even Hazel to them at the minute :lol: Glad to see another Callum fan, I really like him! Much more genuine than Dexter, he might be a bit bland and normal but he seems really nice and a bit awkward which I like.

If Jack & Joe survive the impending eviction(s) I see them being separated actually unless BB plan on getting more than one new housemate.

 

Oh and I cannot tell Jack and Joe from each other. THEY ARE THE SAME HELP

Edited July 16, 201312 yr by Pavslut

No wonder women find it hard to reach out if this is the shit they'd have to put up with. I'm sure there would be UPROAR if it was Charlie or Gina on the receiving end of Daley's wrath, and rightfully so. People need to put their dislike for Hazel aside for one minute and stop blaming her for his actions. 'Slut-shaming' at its finest. Pisses me off to no end (as you can probably tell).

If this is also aimed at Buzzjack members - I haven't seen one comment that insinuates Hazel was in the wrong to the extent of Daley. He grabbed her throat and said he'd nut her, that's some crazy stuff, and his ejection was 100% warranted. I know though, from my point of view, that I think at points, Hazel wasn't completely pushing him anyway, and was provoking him. I honestly don't think she was doing it out of fear, because she moved towards him as if she was going in for the kiss - I think she was turned on by it, and that is the side of Hazel that I really hate to see. I don't know if I 100% believe that she was as 'threatened' as she made out to Big Brother, until the 'nut you' comment.

 

Maybe she didn't want to show she was scared? Especially on national TV. I can totally understand what she's done as I'd have done the very same thing (in fact I DID do the same thing, only it didn't involve any potential love interest and situations were more serious. Easy to judge when you've never been in a situation like that eh?). Maybe it was initial surprise as she did say this behaviour came out of nowhere, and didn't think it through when in the Safehouse replying to Daley's post-"playfight" question. And to be fair that question was "Did I say anything offensive?" Not threatening, or whether he did something wrong. He didn't really call her anything bad there so she said no.

That bit in brackets is a very bizarre thing to say - everybody watching it will be judging her. I've never had anyone pin me by the throat in a bedroom and threaten to nut me, I'm sure almost everyone in this thread hasn't had that happen to them. Nobody in here has lived in the Big Brother house but we're judging everyone's actions.

I'm not talking about the specifics. I'm just saying that I had people speak like that to me in a non-joking way and I have done the exact same thing of 'provoking' (i.e. getting closer and saying things like GO AHEAD). My way of reacting to situations like that is similar to what Hazel did and I definitely did feel threatened even if I didn't really show it. That's why I'm defending her here. No matter what she might have done to Daley, pulled down his trousers, stole his sheets, pissed on his bed, he should've not done what he did. Hazel would've got punished for her behaviour by BB but that's a different case irrelevant to this really. There's no such thing as guilt of the person on the receiving end of abuse (or threats or whatever).

I'm not talking about the specifics. I'm just saying that I had people speak like that to me in a non-joking way and I have done the exact same thing of 'provoking' (i.e. getting closer and saying things like GO AHEAD). My way of reacting to situations like that is similar to what Hazel did and I definitely did feel threatened even if I didn't really show it. That's why I'm defending her here. No matter what she might have done to Daley, pulled down his trousers, stole his sheets, pissed on his bed, he should've not done what he did. Hazel would've got punished for her behaviour by BB but that's a different case irrelevant to this really. There's no such thing as guilt of the person on the receiving end of abuse (or threats or whatever).

 

I fully agree with this, I've been in that sort of position before. Daley is 100% in the wrong, my reaction towards Hazel will be judged depending on the amount of sympathy she wiill aim for / overplay the situation.

 

It's different to judge as I doubt Daley was being fully serious.

I'm not talking about the specifics. I'm just saying that I had people speak like that to me in a non-joking way and I have done the exact same thing of 'provoking' (i.e. getting closer and saying things like GO AHEAD). My way of reacting to situations like that is similar to what Hazel did and I definitely did feel threatened even if I didn't really show it. That's why I'm defending her here. No matter what she might have done to Daley, pulled down his trousers, stole his sheets, pissed on his bed, he should've not done what he did. Hazel would've got punished for her behaviour by BB but that's a different case irrelevant to this really. There's no such thing as guilt of the person on the receiving end of abuse (or threats or whatever).

I pretty much agree with what is being said here, to be honest. As much as I feel Hazel was provoking in parts (which perhaps is natural, as you say) - nothing should ever provoke you to threaten to nut someone, or behave in the manner that he did - least of all over the stealing of a mattress. Even if she had said 'nut me then, go ahead', which would've wound me up, I agree that he shouldn't act that way and he's completely to blame.

 

I'm certainly not saying Hazel caused him to act THAT WAY in the slightest, I don't think he should act that way at all. I just didn't personally feel she was as threatened as she made out, there didn't seem like any scared body language. Perhaps that is putting a facade up, and I'm reading it wrong - but I think she had a smile on her face which insinuated to me that she did feel that it was almost like sexual role play, and therefore I don't know if I 100% buy her diary room comments. She's certainly in the right to feel that way if she did and I believe I would feel that way - I'm not sure I completely believe she did though.

 

Never the less, I do feel sympathetic for her for the situation she was put in, and I respect that from what we saw on BOTS last night, she isn't milking the situation, and looked vulnerable with regards to speaking of it.

I watched it again and I believe Hazel didn't really feel threatened at the start. I think she started to feel threatened once she gave him the sheets back and he came up close to here calling her 'little girl' and stuff. At that point she's lying down but she sits up so she doesn't feel as defenceless and she makes it aware the she know he's being aggressive as she says she's not scared of him. Obviously, this is another defensive action as I think at that point anyone would be worried of his actions. Once Big Brother calls him to the Diary Room, she moves to the chair as she realises that's her opportunity to get away from him.

 

I think the toughness from her and reacting back to him is just Hazel's character ie she doesn't want to appear vulnerable and many women are like that. Credit to jer though as it must have been worrying and scary.

I pretty much agree with what is being said here, to be honest. As much as I feel Hazel was provoking in parts (which perhaps is natural, as you say) - nothing should ever provoke you to threaten to nut someone, or behave in the manner that he did - least of all over the stealing of a mattress. Even if she had said 'nut me then, go ahead', which would've wound me up, I agree that he shouldn't act that way and he's completely to blame.

 

I'm certainly not saying Hazel caused him to act THAT WAY in the slightest, I don't think he should act that way at all. I just didn't personally feel she was as threatened as she made out, there didn't seem like any scared body language. Perhaps that is putting a facade up, and I'm reading it wrong - but I think she had a smile on her face which insinuated to me that she did feel that it was almost like sexual role play, and therefore I don't know if I 100% buy her diary room comments. She's certainly in the right to feel that way if she did and I believe I would feel that way - I'm not sure I completely believe she did though.

 

Never the less, I do feel sympathetic for her for the situation she was put in, and I respect that from what we saw on BOTS last night, she isn't milking the situation, and looked vulnerable with regards to speaking of it.

I personally think she might've not realised the thing that happened happened and that's why she didn't act accordingly or say anything. I myself can sometimes experience something in one way and the next day change my mind about it almost completely, and regret about how I reacted in a different manner, after giving it more thought, so it's easy for me to believe such a scenario.

I just think some people (on DS and Twitter, not here!) are using the most banal excuses to try and make her look bad in this situation. Her reaction is typical of those who have been in that situation before. The cowering in the chair after he got off her was the most obvious sign that she felt genuinely scared. If something like this is unpleasant to watch on TV then it's a thousand times more unpleasant to be on the receiving end of it, especially if it's coming from someone who you've grown to really like and trust.

 

Also, if she was 'faking it' or whatever then she would've milked it by now. The only person who knows about it is Dan.

I personally think she might've not realised the thing that happened happened and that's why she didn't act accordingly or say anything. I myself can sometimes experience something in one way and the next day change my mind about it almost completely, and regret about how I reacted in a different manner, after giving it more thought, so it's easy for me to believe such a scenario.

Yeah, I can see what you mean. As Cal said, I think the body language when she sat on the chair did show a fair amount of vulnerability. I personally think she may have begun to feel threatened at the 'respect your elders' bit, as that was the part where she was forced back against her pillow - but her diary room comments to me seemed like she was speaking about the scenario as a whole. That's the only bit for me that doesn't add up for me - but I suppose once she had time to think about it, maybe she did see more wrong in it.

 

I do ENTIRELY disagree with comments I've seen on Youtube videos saying 'poor Daley, she made him do it', because that's completely wrong.

I don't know why but I am starting to like Rylan a lot on BBBOTS now! He's actually QUITE FUNNY! I don't even know why I disliked him in the first place. :lol:

 

AJ is totes amazing too.

Edited July 16, 201312 yr by Pavslut

Feeling really bad for Hazel and like I suspected, she was confused with all her emotions and it wasn't until he pinned her down where she realised he wasn't play fighting. She seems to be putting it down to him being drunk though and feels like crap that he's gone, and she's done absolutely nothing wrong. Poor girl. :(

Really gone off Dexter after nominating Gina, so so fake. Not that Gina is my fave, just the way he acts around her and she is pretty much his best friend in the house.

 

Jackie really gets on my f***ing tits. Pipe the f*** down.

I think Gina could easily have a Nikki Grahame style exit this week, I think only Dexter going could stop that from happening and I am not sure who has more people who dislike them just yet. Its a shame that one of them have to go this week, but out of the two obviously it has to be Dexter who goes, I wouldn't be that bothered as well as despite him being the 2nd most entertaining I have started to go off him with his sucking up Hazel's bum and turning against the queen.

The nominations don't make sense. I'm glad Jackie and Jack and Joe are up but they only received 2 and 3 nominations respectively. Gina and Dexter received 4 and Callum 7. Is it a double?

 

 

Edited July 16, 201312 yr by Connor

Oh Dexter's really grated on me tonight too! He really is a slimy, manipulating pig. Not because he nominated Gina (although that didn't help his cause - I thought they were close?) :\ but just because he constantly lies and doesn't help himself in situations and he really does just come off as fake.

 

I'm confused though... why is Jackie up? Callum got 6 (?) votes, Dexter & Gina got 4, whilst Jack & Joe got 3 and Jackie got 2. Is it a double this week?