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So sad to hear about Lisa Marie Presley passing today.

I worked with her over 10 years ago and we wrote a song about her leaving the Church of Scientology.She seemed very troubled and the song was never released.A few years later I met her son at the Groucho Club.

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Thanks for sorting this out Tess -no idea how I managed to post it four times and couldn't see how to delete it! :unsure:

Thanks for sorting this out Tess -no idea how I managed to post it four times and couldn't see how to delete it! :unsure:

 

 

"Twitchy Finger Syndrome" Laura :lol: . It wasn't me Laura, must have been Alex :P

Rob should have been on this list for his Knebworth gig but I guess not considered cool enough, he is briefly mentioned in the Oasis snippet :nono:

 

 

 

Date published: 18th Jan 2023

 

Music is subjective. We all know this. But over the decades, there have been some live performances that blew all others out of the water. Performances that drew over a million people, changed the industry, and inspired thousands of people all over the world.

 

Dearly beloved, we’re gathered here today to celebrate the best live performances of all time. From metal to electronic, rock to pop, here are some of the greatest performances the human race has ever been blessed with.

 

 

https://www.skiddle.com/news/all/Best-live-...all-time/57073/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Daft Punk, would you have included them in that list :no:

I saw quite a lot of tweets during the weekend about Ayda maybe joining this Beverly Hills housewife reality soap as it was indicated that the new person will be an ex friend of Chrystel with whom Ayda was fiends. I have only watched this one time years ago when the hype was huge. Do not like reality soaps so it was gone then for me.

Can you imagine this is true?

First I was like 'no way'. On the other hand Ayda will not be with Rob during the tour yet it seems and it would be a good hook for the USA and making already pre-advert for Better Man and the Netflix biopic.....

I saw quite a lot of tweets during the weekend about Ayda maybe joining this Beverly Hills housewife reality soap as it was indicated that the new person will be an ex friend of Chrystel with whom Ayda was fiends. I have only watched this one time years ago when the hype was huge. Do not like reality soaps so it was gone then for me.

Can you imagine this is true?

First I was like 'no way'. On the other hand Ayda will not be with Rob during the tour yet it seems and it would be a good hook for the USA and making already pre-advert for Better Man and the Netflix biopic.....

 

 

It's possible Elisabeth, it's been a few years since Ayda has done anything on tv & this is close to home so maybe there is some gain of truth in it . I used to watch it on Bravo but they took the channel down so have not seen it for a few years

 

Do you think the Netflix bio will be shown in the US, I would have thought it would be directed at UK & European audiences as Rob is not that well known in the US

the movie will be shown world wide as I guess it is Robbie Williams like the greatest showman is Barum. But you cn watch the greaatest showman without having ever heard of him. My thought is, if the movie will be successful also the Biopic will be shown in the uSA.

Personally I believe that this is the last attempt for Rob to break America as they call it and this time his heart is in it.

He said it himself: Think big.

The hotel, the TV show and possibly America different than it was considered to be broken in the 90ties, why not?

the movie will be shown world wide as I guess it is Robbie Williams like the greatest showman is Barum. But you cn watch the greaatest showman without having ever heard of him. My thought is, if the movie will be successful also the Biopic will be shown in the uSA.

Personally I believe that this is the last attempt for Rob to break America as they call it and this time his heart is in it.

He said it himself: Think big.

The hotel, the TV show and possibly America different than it was considered to be broken in the 90ties, why not?

 

I am sure that I heard Rob say in one of his interviews that he was approached by Michael Gracey who wanted to make a move about him so I am not so sure it's another attempt to break the US , it will help of course . We will know more I guess when we see the credits on the movie.

 

Excerpt from Deadline.com

 

Deadline spoke with Gracey and it’s clear the filmmaker is planning something exceptional here. He keeps certain details secret, but after all he surprised many with the blockbuster success of his musical on P.T. Barnum, and has aspirations for a repeat. You might glean some clues through his vision for the movie that he describes below.

 

Gracey said the movie came out of hours of free flowing conversations he had with Williams, a process that started after The Greatest Showman in LA and London, and lasted a couple years to find the handle on a movie. Williams’ hit tunes are part of the film package, but when I asked the filmmaker how Williams will be represented onscreen, and whether he himself will be in the film, Gracey got a bit cryptic.

 

“As for how we represent Robbie in the film, that bit is top secret,” Gracey said. “I want to do this in a really original way. I remember going to the cinema as a kid and there were films that blew me away and made me say as I sat there in the cinema, ‘I’ve never seen this before.’ I just want the audience to have that feeling. It’s so important when they watch this story, and look at the screen, that they literally think, I’ve never seen this before. All I can say is the approach is top secret, but the goal is to generate that feeling I just described. It’s this fantastical story, and I want to represent it in its harsh reality all the way to these moments of pure fantasy.”

 

 

Whether he is in it or not, Williams’ personality, ambition and insecurities will be on full display, unearthed in those long conversations. It will be different from recent musical movies like Bohemian Rhapsody and Rocketman in that Williams did not come in a prodigy like Freddie Mercury and Elton John.

 

“Unlike some people who were born prodigies or musical geniuses and you follow the narrative of the world catching up to their brilliance, this isn’t that story,” Gracey told Deadline. “Robbie is that Everyman, who just dreamed big and followed those dreams and they took him to an incredible place. Because of that, his is an incredibly relatable story. He’s not the best singer, or dancer, and yet, he managed to sell 80 million records worldwide. You can relate to the guy who doesn’t see himself as having any extraordinary talent, even though of course, he does. What he did have is the will, vision and confidence to say, I’m going to pursue my dream. For us as an audience, it’s a window into the world, of what if we just went for it and chased that impossible dream that so many of us put to one side.”

 

The film will include the low moments, including making it and thinking the out-sized fame wasn’t deserved.

 

“At moments when he was having that success, no one is more critical of him than he is. There’s a bit of that in all of us who when they get acknowledgement, feel like a fraud. It’s psychological and internal, but everyone looks in the mirror and finds fault with themselves, no matter who you think you are, and especially in your teenage years. Robbie had incredible fame at age 16, and they often say and I do believe it is true, you stop your emotional and mental maturity at whatever age you become famous. You look at people who get fame at a young age, and all the challenges that make you grow, all the things that you should have to deal with on an emotional level, they get taken care of or pushed to one side. You have a mechanism around you that allows you to stay immature, that allows you to get what you want, have a tantrum. That doesn’t happen for the rest of us. It is interesting to watch someone who has all this at 16, and kind of stays 16 his whole life. This whole script was born of hours of Robbie and myself getting together at this recording studio he has at his house. We would just leave the mic on record and chat for hours. Some sessions weren’t great and in the last five minutes he would say something that was so honest and truthful, it blew my mind. I would think, if I was writing a script, I could never come up with a line as brilliant as that.

 

“When I was talking to him, the details of what was going on inside him when something completely different might have been taking place around him, not only is it unique, it’s an interesting way to come at a musical biopic,” Gracey said. “It’s because he has such a unique way of talking about his life, and he was so open about it. If we can present it in an original way it would reflect how original this is, but also, how relatable it is. It’s not often you can tell extraordinary fantastical stories that everyone can relate to. There is a bit of that in the superhero narrative, like I’m an every person and I discover something and get this incredible superpower. That is a fantasy we all subscribe to. It is interesting when you can access that when it comes to a rock star.”

 

Back to the music.

 

“All Robbie’s songs will be re-sung, for the emotion of the moment,” he said. “If in his life he’s in the depths of despair, he’s not going to sing a song as cabaret flamboyant showmanship; it’s going to be broken, acapella, stripped down, because that’s where he is emotionally. In moments of pure joy, you’ll get songs sung in this whirlwind of hysteria. So essentially every song in the film, Robbie will sing, but it will be performed for the emotion of that moment, and that scene.”

 

As for why Williams never soared in America as he did most everywhere else in the world, Gracey believes it can be an ally to the film in the U.S.

 

“All the round the world, he is massive here in Australia and massive in Europe, and for whatever reason, he didn’t crack that U.S. market,” Gracey said. “Which is why he lives there, because he is able to go down the street and he not have his clothes torn off him. I look at it like, everywhere outside the U.S. people are going to hear these songs and they’re going to know every single one of them. Inside the U.S., they hopefully will greet it the same way as when they met The Greatest Showman. They didn’t know those songs, and yet people fell in love with them and made them their own. I think it will be the same with Better Man. They will be meeting the music for the first time and it’ll be really beautiful, because it will be in the context of the narrative of the film.”

 

I suggest that if the movie lives up to Gracey’s great expectations, Williams might well be unable to walk down any street, even in America where he lives.

 

 

“That would be my hope, but I don’t think it’s necessarily his hope,” Gracey said.

 

CAA Media Finance and Elevate Production Finance are arranging financing for the film and representing domestic distribution rights; Rocket Science is handling international sales.

 

Gracey is represented by CAA, Partizan, and Hirsch Wallerstein; Williams is repped by CAA and ie:music ltd; and Daly is repped by CAA.

 

 

https://deadline.com/2021/02/robbie-william...age-1234698743/

 

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