I agree with Jay about Better In Time - it was a big hit and I saw it constantly on the music channels too. I don't know how it could be argued that it was a poor single choice even if you're not a fan of the song.

 

The problem with this album is the material for sure IMO. It's got some good songs on it but Fire Under My Feet was an absolutely terrible way to start the era. It sounds unfinished and messy. Airplay was not the issue - for the music she makes, it suits the Radio 2 audience more I think (as much as I'd love Radio 1 to support her still). It got good Radio 2 support and still failed to do much for the album. Will Young also only had Radio 2 support but that didn't stop him making #1 and having a much more successful campaign!

 

With regards to the J-Lo topic, she re-invented herself and made herself relevant again by keeping in with current trends. Leona hasn't done this so no wonder she's been dropped by Radio 1. Pitbull hardly guarantees a hit, he features on just as many flop singles as he does smashes. It was definitely the power of a killer song like On the Floor.

I really do think 'On The Floor' was a very rare exception for a scenario like that, a very once in a blue moon thing. Plus it only temporarily reinvigorated her, she was over again a couple of singles later.

Having Pitbull doesn't guarantee a big hit though and several stations played the solo verison anyway, plus, being on AI didn't do much for

Mariah Carey and it's not really as big as it once was, ratings slumped.

Lot's of people still thought she was over and wouldn't get a hit. Also, AI isn't huge over here and being big in America doesn't guarantee a hit everywere else.

 

Having Pitbull doesn't gurantee a big hit but he definitely helps - especially back in 2010/2011. American Idol might not have been as big as it once was but it was still big enough to gain media attention - especially with Simon Cowell and Paula finally leaving. There was a lot of anticipation in regards to seeing who was hired as their replacements and whether they'd deliver or not. Also, Mariah scored her biggest hit in years when she became a judge on American Idol. I doubt that was coincidental. For what it's worth, I'm not saying 'On the Floor' doesn't have hit potential. Clearly it does. But I think there was a lot more to do with why it became a big hit than just it being "the right song". She's tried to recreate the song several times since with very little success in comparison - that to me suggests it's less to do with the song and more to do with her profile.

 

And Jay, I think 'Better in Time' was a poor follow-up to 'Bleeding Love' because I find it too plain. I think it was always going to do well since radio would've played anything by Leona after the success of BL and it was MOR enough to connect with the general public. But I don't think it did her image much good since it is pretty insipid. 'Take A Bow' was more current and interesting as a song.

She still released a song that connected with the public at a time when she was regarded as a has been and a flop. A lot of OTF's success is down to how well received it was. Fact is, Leona has yet to release anything from this era that people connect to in large quantities.

Better In Time was not a poor single choice regardless of your opinion of it, it was a big hit and sold the album well.... :lol: The best songs don't always make the best singles.

 

And sure, J-Lo was basically over again shortly after On the Floor, but I doubt Dance Again and Live It Up would've been top 20 hits if On the Floor didn't happen (and I'm Into You of course but that directly followed OTF), so it did prolong her career.

She still released a song that connected with the public at a time when she was regarded as a has been and a flop. A lot of OTF's success is down to how well received it was. Fact is, Leona has yet to release anything from this era that people connect to in large quantities.

 

Okay I feel like we're going around in circles and we just have to agree to disagree. :lol: But my point still stands; 2011 J.Lo and 2015 Leona are in completely different situations to each other. 'On the Floor' may have been well received but there so many songs that are well received from the people that have heard them yet don't do anything in the charts because the radio play isn't there. I've read a lot of positive reviews/comments online about 'Fire Under My Feet' (while also being aware that there are also critics) especially from people/journalists who went to the album showcase or soon after it premièred. In my eyes, there is nothing about it musically that restricts it from being a hit. And before someone comes in and says "oh you would say that because you're a blind Leona fan" I can think of various songs by her, both on I Am and on other albums, that would be poor single material (I was very vocal about 'I Am' being a poor single choice). But FUMF is catchy and instant. Everyone over on DS had the chorus stuck in their heads immediately once the snippet dropped in December. It's been constantly hanging around the lower top 100 on German, Swiss and Austrian iTunes for 6 weeks despite no promotion. It nearly reached the top 100 on US iTunes despite next to no promo. Those facts themselves heavily suggest that FUMF has the potential to do well if pushed. But I'll guess we'll never know for sure.

Better In Time was not a poor single choice regardless of your opinion of it, it was a big hit and sold the album well.... :lol: The best songs don't always make the best singles.

 

I meant it was a poor single choice for her image rather than her commercial success. But I do think the fact it followed up a song that was #1 in 35 countries and didn't top the chart anywhere might say something. :P

I meant it was a poor single choice for her image rather than her commercial success. But I do think the fact it followed up a song that was #1 in 35 countries and didn't top the chart anywhere might say something. :P

 

Well to be fair, nothing she did was gonna do anywhere near as well as Bleeding Love so that's hardly a surprise :lol: Bleeding Love was basically a larger scale version of Ella Henderson's Ghost I think. Anything she released after that wasn't gonna do anywhere near as well but that doesn't mean Glow was a bad choice.

 

Although this entire discussion is a waste of time anyway :lol:

Ooo quite like the "Ladders (acoustic)".

 

Also, the comment about Leona's being thin other than her falsetto/head voice is just :lol: :lol: :lol: She has such great breathe control/resonance/vibrato in her middle range. I agree that she thins out as she belts higher (E5/F5 and above), although she's certainly been working on that and delivered some good upper belts live so far (most notably on her "Thunder" performances). Can't wait until the tour, I think she's going to blow us away vocally. :D

 

 

Well to be fair, nothing she did was gonna do anywhere near as well as Bleeding Love so that's hardly a surprise :lol: Bleeding Love was basically a larger scale version of Ella Henderson's Ghost I think. Anything she released after that wasn't gonna do anywhere near as well but that doesn't mean Glow was a bad choice.

 

Although this entire discussion is a waste of time anyway :lol:

 

That's true but there are a lot of worldwide number ones that get followed up with other #1s. I guess BIT was unlucky in the UK since it was only 300 copies behind 'Mercy' but I feel 'Take A Bow' was the more obvious single on the album (like 'Glassheart' and 'Outta My Head'. Who knows - maybe it wasn't chosen because Rihanna released a song with the same name around that time? To be fair though, BIT fitted more with the charity theme than a break-up song like TAB would. :lol: I just think Leona could've got a second US top 10 hit with a better song imo.

Edited October 13, 20159 yr by Scene

'Another Love Song' could be the next single.

 

Leona Lewis

Another Love Song Island

3:26

Radio Extra - Oct/Nov 2015

 

https://www.cdpool.com/search/?search=Leona%20Lewis

With an X-factor performance I hope *_* Will wait for official confirmation before making the thread just incase they change it. I hope not though and they have a good promo stratergy worked out for the song! :cheer:

With an X-factor performance I hope *_* Will wait for official confirmation before making the thread just incase they change it. I hope not though and they have a good promo stratergy worked out for the song! :cheer:

 

Hopefully it will be confirmed. I can't think of any other reason why it'd show up on CD Pool if it wasn't an upcoming single. If it was just for clubs, it'd be in the Dance category. Will Young's 'Love Revolution' was in the Radio Extra category and that was an official single. It says October/November so we may not hear anything official for the next couple of weeks (if true).

With Better In Time you have to remember how well Spirit had been selling up to the point where it was finally a single. Was not ever going to be selling like bleeding love (if anything it helped give the album more longevity and sustained sales). Personally, I think Better in Time did her a lot of good all over the world and I do know a good number of people that prefer it to Bleeding Love or found it a lot more personal and positive.

 

The first real problem with Leona's singles for me was Forgive Me as it completely clashed with her image. Not necessarily because it was urban, but people just found it odd Leona singing a song about cheating on her boyfriend. The only market it was really catered for it never actually got a release in, meaning things went quiet in the states from better in time until I Will Be (which IMO should have just been ignored and had them focus on Run).

 

Back to this era, glad to hear about them thinking about the next single. I won't get too excited until we have something officially confirmed.

I'm one person who doesn't care much for ALS, but I've also realized my tastes may not be so mainstream. If spotify, for example, indicates that it is the most listened, then it really is a good choice. I saw Russel Tovey's tweet pointing to his love of the song, so it may really be a good way to go with a next single. Hoping for a nice, polychromatic video. It strikes me as a song of color, strobe lights and hands waving in the air...alternated with a steady, serene set up. At least it is something to look forward to. It may flip things around completely. :)

Edited October 14, 20159 yr by Hagarthy

The thing is ALS really won't work as a single at this point. Capital and Radio 1 are not going to support her under any circumstance now and ALS will only alienate the only support she does have. Liam said it better than me:

 

It's a shame Another Love Song won't really have a chance, I think in other circumstances or for another artist (you could say that about many songs though I suppose) it would have really been a hit but with only radio 2 supporting this era I don't think ALS will work as a single. It would alienate that audience and no matter how good the song is Radio 1/Capital etc won't touch her with a bargepole, I'd probably rather they just left it rather than it flopping :(

 

Basically, the best song does not always equate to the best single choice.

 

It's winter ballads season, and a winter ballad is what she'll need if she wanted to resurrect the campaign at all. Also, Another Love Song isn't really the kind of song that would get massive boosts from TV performances. I hope this isn't the next single as even Radio 2 won't really play it, but the whole era has had so many bad choices, I wouldn't be surprised.

The thing is ALS really won't work as a single at this point. Capital and Radio 1 are not going to support her under any circumstance now and ALS will only alienate the only support she does have. Liam said it better than me:

Basically, the best song does not always equate to the best single choice.

 

It's winter ballads season, and a winter ballad is what she'll need if she wanted to resurrect the campaign at all. Also, Another Love Song isn't really the kind of song that would get massive boosts from TV performances. I hope this isn't the next single as even Radio 2 won't really play it, but the whole era has had so many bad choices, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

Radio 2 A-Listed Alesha Dixon's 'The Way We Are' so I can't see them not supporting 'Another Love Song'. At least if ALS is a single, it will show Leona in a different light. The BBC 1Xtra DJ really loved it so who knows if it will catch on or not? At this point, it's good they're trying something new.

Nothings confirmed yet.

166 in midweeks.

166 in midweeks.

 

Freefalling now - will drop out of the top 200 next week or maybe even this week. :snif: