Well it's not on the list I'm going from.

thanks for the link, but it's basically 100 ways to make me froth at the mouth at the wishy-washiness of it all. All promises, virtually nothing costed and guaranteed. Replacing one quango with a tougher one. Err why!!!?? Just make them do more, gov pressure. 200,000 homes. money? Creating a committee to look into infrastructure. Utter bollocks. waste of money. You go into an election with IDEAS for infrastructure projects and how to pay for them, not waste taxpayer money on yet more overpaid yes men with no clear idea on where the cash is coming from anyway whatever conclusions they draw. I could rip at least half of them to shreds no problem.

 

But I have to stop for the sake of my blood pressure....

 

Let's see a proper manifesto instead, I think.....had 4 years to produce one!

You literally never get a manifesto this far ahead of an election.

 

And most of the ones that require costing are costed if you look at the original announcements, it just doesn't have the costings in the brief summaries. Honestly...

i know - I'll wait for the official release!

Oh, and just to say (this isn't aimed specifically at you popchartfreak), this new-found definition of what counts as policy and what doesn't is utterly fucking laughable by historical comparison. Literally no Opposition would have passed this apparent test of what counts as policy and what doesn't prior to a manifesto launch.

No worries B-) Ed's looking a bit shaky at the mo - I'd advise him to drop half of the more hair-brained of the 100, concentrate on the important ones, push them, cost them, make it sound forceful and convincing, and stop being afraid of alienating the "hard-working families" and stand up for what's right, not what's popular with people who will probably vote elsewhere anyway. it's the lost working-class voters who need addressing.

 

Get angry, get passionate, get convincing.....

Ed Miliband is not PM material. The UK would become the laughing stock of the world with Miliband as PM. I can't see how it would harm Labour to replace him at this late stage.

Ed Miliband is not PM material. The UK would become the laughing stock of the world with Miliband as PM. I can't see how it would harm Labour to replace him at this late stage.

 

The thing is that there's no-one who is either willing or strong enough to lead Labour to a majority victory in lieu of Miliband (although there's many more in the former than the latter). Plus, if they replace him now, it'll make the party look weak, so Labour's stuck with him until the election unless he steps down or exits this mortal coil.

As for Miliband being the "laughing stock of the world" if by some minor stroke of luck he does stumble through Number 10, feel free to cast your mind back to who the Commander-In-Chief of the USA was between 2000 and 2008.

Ed Miliband is not PM material. The UK would become the laughing stock of the world with Miliband as PM. I can't see how it would harm Labour to replace him at this late stage.

What proportion of the world's population do you think could name our current PM?

I think Ed is a stronger leader than Gordon Brown, but that's not saying much really is it..

 

Regardless, he is still the bookies favourite to be our next Prime Minister come May 2015 so it would be pretty stupid for Labour to ditch him now IMO.

I think Ed is a stronger leader than Gordon Brown, but that's not saying much really is it..

 

Regardless, he is still the bookies favourite to be our next Prime Minister come May 2015 so it would be pretty stupid for Labour to ditch him now IMO.

 

Do you? Brown atleast got a grudging level of respect from people, and there was atleast a vague sense that he believed in helping the poorest. The most damaging thing for Ed is people just don't think he believes in or stands for anything at all -- they just see him as a career politician jockeying (badly) for a cushy position for himself, with no explanation of WHY he wants it.

Anywho, I am sorely tempted by that 20/1 for Hazza Harman being next Labour leader...

I wouldn't say that. People think Ed does care about the poorest and wants to help them, they just think he's utterly useless.

What proportion of the world's population do you think could name our current PM?

 

I meant in terms of the political circles in other countries. Do you think the German Chancellor or US President would want to be seen closely related with Miliband? At least David Cameron comes across as a strong leader and competent (in the main).

 

I think Ed is a stronger leader than Gordon Brown, but that's not saying much really is it..

 

Regardless, he is still the bookies favourite to be our next Prime Minister come May 2015 so it would be pretty stupid for Labour to ditch him now IMO.

 

I disagree. Gordon Brown was a much stronger leader who was just unlucky to have become PM during the worst of the economic crisis. Ed commands no authority, and as someone else stated he doesn't appear to really stand for anything.

I meant in terms of the political circles in other countries. Do you think the German Chancellor or US President would want to be seen closely related with Miliband? At least David Cameron comes across as a strong leader and competent (in the main).

I disagree. Gordon Brown was a much stronger leader who was just unlucky to have become PM during the worst of the economic crisis. Ed commands no authority, and as someone else stated he doesn't appear to really stand for anything.

Cameron's standing in Europe is at an all-time low for a British PM. Other leaders have seen through his public school confidence (or arrogance if you prefer) na scan see how little substance there is to him. How can you describe Cameron as strong when he has performed so many u-turns? It's impossible to say what he stands for (apart from helping the rich) because he changes his mind so often.

If you take away the media's spin and all the ridiculous bacon sandwich stories, Cameron looked no more competent than Miliband before he became PM. The office gives anyone an illusion of power. Except John Major.

How exactly was Brown a much strong leader? I'll admit he had a strong start dealing with the flooding and the terrorist attack on Glasgow Airport, but this was then followed by all of that FAFFING around with the 'will he/won't he' call an election in 2007, which was was embarrassing. Many spoke of his body language suggesting he would 'rather not be there' during Cabinet meetings and was incapable of delegating responsibility.

 

He was a strong Chancellor, but leader? No. Very weak.

I'm surprised by the amount of positives comments in the #webackEd trending topic on twitter in the last couple of days! Obviously there are Tory trolls as well but I still think he should stay. I don't know why they think putting Alan Johnson as leader NOW will make any difference.

These reports of "plots" against Miliband get sillier by the day. The Observer today reports that 20 shadow ministers are considering a move against him. Later on in the report it becomes apparent that one person has claimed that 20 are "actively considering what is best to do". In other words, they could be choosing between stating their support for Miliband - thereby adding credibility to the "plot" reports in some minds - or saying nothing and hoping the stories will prove to be a nine-day wonder.

 

In the meantime, Osborne's blatant lies about the deal reached on the EU budget contribution ave conveniently dropped out of the news.