Greens on 11% with the latest Lord Ashcroft poll.

 

But more importantly, which animal do people think each leader is most like?

 

Cameron would be a fox, being smart and sleek – or, less charitably, “a giraffe, looking down on everybody”.

 

Farage? A peacock, or a weasel.

 

Clegg? “A Chihuahua in David Cameron’s handbag”.

 

Miliband? Puzzlement. “Certainly not a predator… one of those animals that, when you go to the zoo, you’re not bothered whether you see it or not.”

 

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/ashcr...ip-15-green-11/

I've never thought of foxes as smart. Sly, yes, but not smart. Sly also fits Cameron far better than smart.

That Miliband one!

Did he announce any Scottish constituency polling in the end?

Still to come, it was just his weekly one. For this wait though he'd better have done HALF THE COUNTRY when it finally comes out...

 

And I'm still waiting for one for Bristol West.

Still to come, it was just his weekly one. For this wait though he'd better have done HALF THE COUNTRY when it finally comes out...

 

And I'm still waiting for one for Bristol West.

 

Lots of hype about the Greens' chances there.

The Greens definitely surging: up to 10% in tonight's YouGov, after an 11% in another poll yesterday.

 

Labour people on Twitter already throwing their toys out of the pram and complaining about selfish voters, apparently oblivious to the fact that their own party deserves most of the blame for putting forward a policy on spending cuts which is more right-wing than 60% of the public.

Lots of hype about the Greens' chances there.

Yes, but mainly based on a misunderstanding. The hype comes on the basis that the Greens won Bristol West on the basis of council votes this year. The hype neglects to mention that only two wards were up for election in Bristol West this year and the Greens took both (holding one and going from a close second to Labour to first in the other). I've no doubt it'll probably be in their top five results nationwide come May, but I still think three-way marginal at best - I'm more interested to see if the Lib Dem will hold on over Labour.

Labour people on Twitter already throwing their toys out of the pram and complaining about selfish voters, apparently oblivious to the fact that their own party deserves most of the blame for putting forward a policy on spending cuts which is more right-wing than 60% of the public.

Yep, 'I'm not voting Labour because they're the horsemen of the austerity apocalypse' is definitely the roaring cry coming out of the focus groups about now. Nothing to do with the Greens seeming like a fresh distraction from 'the establishment parties' after a week of getting the most press coverage they've had since 1989.

 

Given about half of those Green voters say they plan on voting Labour in May (which begs bafflement as to why they put Green as a voting intention, but there we go) I'm not *massively* worried yet.

Yep, 'I'm not voting Labour because they're the horsemen of the austerity apocalypse' is definitely the roaring cry coming out of the focus groups about now. Nothing to do with the Greens seeming like a fresh distraction from 'the establishment parties' after a week of getting the most press coverage they've had since 1989.

 

So you're still somehow managing to avoid all of the 60% of the public who tell the opinion-pollsters they're against further spending cuts, huh?

I also kind of noticed that the collective share of Labour, the Tories, UKIP and the Lib Dems isn't 40%. I would also wager the vast majority of people aren't au fait with Labour's spending plans, and the majority of the ones that think they are probably think they're the platform you're wanting Labour to have. Labour's current problem isn't our position, it's that Ed Miliband is utterly incapable of a consistent message.

also, is it also not impossible that people actually take notice of the cuts taken place already, see how it's affecting people they know on a daily basis right now, and are vaguely aware that the options presented to them are:

 

a) it's going to get much worse right away

b) it's going to get much worse but take a little longer

c) it's going to get much worse but at least we'll tax the rich a bit as well (but not much)

d) it's going to be marvellous if you vote for us and we promise marmalade skies and fluffy kitten love for everybody - cos we have no chance of governing the country so we can say what we like, even though it makes no sense. Hopefully though we can hold the balance of power and push our own little obsessions peculiar to just us.

 

 

I think that's basically what's on offer.....

 

 

 

The Tories now favourites to get most seats with the bookmakers.

The Tories now favourites to get most seats with the bookmakers.

Haven't they been for a long time though? There literally is nothing Ed or any of Labour can do to get the media on their side (apart from the Daily Mirror) so it really doesn't matter what he says everything will be against him. The debates are a big opportunity for him however.

 

The Tories may be the largest party but are they going to actually be able to form a government with anyone?

 

As for all these people thinking of voting Green instead and letting the Tories in...

 

Haven't they been for a long time though? There literally is nothing Ed or any of Labour can do to get the media on their side (apart from the Daily Mirror) so it really doesn't matter what he says everything will be against him. The debates are a big opportunity for him however.

 

The Tories may be the largest party but are they going to actually be able to form a government with anyone?

As for all these people thinking of voting Green instead and letting the Tories in...

The same applies to anyone contemplating voting Labour in a Tory / Lib Dem marginal.

If it's a hung parliament, the others will be courted . Tories may be able to count on their usual allies from Northern Ireland, Lib Dem and UKIP and Labour on other NI parties, Plaid, SNP, Greens, Lib Dems and maybe Respect.

 

It's all down to arithmetic and of course, Events. Who could have forseen the "bigoted woman"blow to GB last GE or the meteoric rise of Nick Clegg?

 

Personally I think that the electorate will not swallow the Tory/Labour line that a vote for any other party will let their rival win a majority.

Edited January 22, 201510 yr by Baytree

If it's a hung parliament, the others will be courted . Tories may be able to count on their usual allies from Northern Ireland, Lib Dem and UKIP and Labour on other NI parties, Plaid, SNP, Greens, Lib Dems and maybe Respect.

 

It's all down to arithmetic and of course, Events. Who could have forseen the "bigoted woman"blow to GB last GE or the meteoric rise of Nick Clegg?

 

Personally I think that the electorate will not swallow the Tory/Labour line that a vote for any other party will let their rival win a majority.

It depends. Lib Dem votes are probably more likely to be pragmatic and vote tactically given almost all their anti-establishment wing has left. In turn, Labour people in Lib Dem seats will probably prop them up to try and stop the Tories winning.

 

And a Tory coalition would have to include the Lib Dems OR UKIP, not both. It would be the final nail in the Lib Dem coffin otherwise.

Soz Tirren. Ipos-Mori (or whatever the f*** their name is) has the SNP on 52% with Labour on 24% Tories on 12% and the LieDems and Greens on 4% each in their latest poll which is a bump of 1% for Labour since October and the SNP unchanged. Looks like the c**t in charge up here is making a super difference.

Soz Tirren. Ipos-Mori (or whatever the f*** their name is) has the SNP on 52% with Labour on 24% Tories on 12% and the LieDems and Greens on 4% each in their latest poll which is a bump of 1% for Labour since October and the SNP unchanged. Looks like the c**t in charge up here is making a super difference.

 

Apparently his approval ratings are barely any better than Ed Miliband's were when he was a month into his leadership!!

Apparently his approval ratings are barely any better than Ed Miliband's were when he was a month into his leadership!!

Which I'm guessing wasn't particularly bad, given it was after a month...