Mull of Kintyre by Wings, one time UK's biggest ever hit (before Band Aid) I believe missed the US top 40, possibly even missing the top 100

Wasn't 99 Red Balloons by Nena originally released in the UK in German, and didn't reach the top 40, until an English version was released? Off topic???

'Mull Of Kintyre' wasn't the A-side of the single in the US - they promoted 'Girls School' instead and peaked at 33. Paul McCartney's solo Number One 'Pipes Of Peace' was also flipped in the States, though at least that still made Top 30 there.

Conversely, 'Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey' (credited to Paul & Linda McCartney) was a US Number One that wasn't released as a single in the UK - they released 'Back Seat Of My Car' here and it only got to 39, which was a massive flop for him in 1971.

- Olly Murs feat. Flo Rida - Troublemaker

It performed very poorly in the Netherlands spending only 7 weeks in their Top 100 with a #66 peak

 

- Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop

Top 20 nearly everywhere, even in France it reached #26 however in the Netherlands only #48

 

- Wiz Khalifa feat. 2 Chainz - We Own It

Multiple Top 10's and Top 20's but a mere 3 weeks in the Dutch Top 100 (peak: #48, even lower than in Spain where rap doesn't usually sell at all)

 

- OneRepublic - Stop And Stare

Somehow their Dutch profile is pretty irrelevant even more than the UK one prior to "Counting Stars" but this old hit only reached #46 in Holland despite succeeding in the UK

 

- David Guetta feat. Nicki Minaj - Turn Me On

Big success worthy of at least a Top 30 place everywhere bar the Netherlands where it peaked at #68

 

- Kelly Clarkson - Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)

See as above, it never went higher than #59 in Holland, at least Top 30 elsewhere

 

- Jason Derulo - In My Head

Top 20 all around and only #43 peak in the Netherlands

Gosh I didn't know we were such trolls :drama:

 

But these stats seem to be based on our sales chart, which is like the Digital Songs Chart in the US.

On our "official" chart, aka the top 40 based on streams and airplay (previously included sales instead of streaming until very recently), some of these songs did much better due to their massive airplay.

 

One Republic reached #18, Turn Me On reached #36 and In My Head reached #13. The rest didn't reach that chart so they flopped rightfully

 

(Soz but it irks me when people use different charts from the "official" :lol:)

 

EDIT: The Netherlands is probably the biggest troll to Britney Spears. We hate her hear, which results in her solo top 20 hit being over 9 years ago, while she continues to be remotely succesfull in the rest of the world

Edited September 20, 201410 yr by *Tim

Gosh I didn't know we were such trolls :drama:

 

But these stats seem to be based on our sales chart, which is like the Digital Songs Chart in the US.

On our "official" chart, aka the top 40 based on streams and airplay (previously included sales instead of streaming until very recently), some of these songs did much better due to their massive airplay.

 

One Republic reached #18, Turn Me On reached #36 and In My Head reached #13. The rest didn't reach that chart so they flopped rightfully

 

(Soz but it irks me when people use different charts from the "official" :lol:)

 

EDIT: The Netherlands is probably the biggest troll to Britney Spears. We hate her hear, which results in her solo top 20 hit being over 9 years ago, while she continues to be remotely succesfull in the rest of the world

Of course I always use only the sales charts, even for the USA.

Additionally in the Netherlands the sales Top 100 has the official status so it duly is usually referred to when analysing chart performance in your country. :)

Practically each country except from the United States uses sales (+ streaming) as indicator of success. If a song is high on airplay but people refuse to buy or stream it, it definitely doesn't deserve to chart high. OneRepublic's music is for instance very radio-friendly so it would automatically mean all their tracks are hits which obviously is not the case. Even their most loyal public in Germany didn't particularly like "Something I Need" in spite of its exposure and the song flopped even though almost every other single from them is an instant smash over there.

 

When it comes to Spears, she's also pretty irrelevant these days in Germany, Austria and a couple of other markets including the UK so you're not alone there in the Netherlands. ;)

Gosh I didn't know we were such trolls :drama:

 

 

Yooooou radical TROLLS!!!!! :angry:

Kylie's "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" which was #1 almost everywhere, but in Canada only managed #55. Also "I Should Be So Lucky" which again a hit practically everywhere but in USA only #28 and Canada #61. "The Locomotion" successful everywhere but the Netherlands were it only peaked at #40.

 

Britney Spears "Sometimes" which hit top 10 mostly everywhere but only managed a #21 peak in the USA. And okay not a flop but "Oops I Did It Again" only managed #9 in the USA and worldwide it was top 5. "Me Against The Music" a smash worldwide but #35 in the USA.

 

Madonna - Material Girl, top 20 everywhere apart from France where it peaked at #47 and again "Cherish" a worldwide top 20 smash but #21 in France, even "Vogue" only managed a #9 peak. "Secret" #29 over there as well. "American Pie" a smash hit everywhere but only #29 in USA. Also "Hung Up" which didn't flop but #1 everywhere but #7 in the USA.

 

Rihanna - Only Girl (In The World) #26 in Brazil and also "S&M" #25 in Brazil.

 

Maroon 5's - This Love #26 in Sweden.

 

Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl (#19 Spain)

Katy Perry - Teenage Dream (#22 Hungary, #21 Sweden)

Katy Perry - Firework (#27 Japan)

Katy Perry - E.T. (#24 Belgium (Flanders)

Katy Perry - Part Of Me (#48 Spain) (top 40 everywhere else)

Katy Perry - Roar (#81 Slovakia)

Katy Perry - Dark Horse (#91 Japan)

 

One Direction - What Makes You Beautiful (#63 Netherlands)

One Direction - One Way Or Another (#28 Sweden)

One Direction - Best Song Ever - (#85 Czech Republic)

One Direction - Story Of My Life (#99 Czech Republic)

 

 

I believe the reason why "Sometimes" and "Oops!... I Did It Again" peaked so low in the US is because neither were given a physical release there, and charted on airplay only.

 

What's regarded as Canada's official chart during the 2001-mid 2007 time period was the physical single sales only chart; which is essentially irrelevant because physical single sales were practically nothing in that time period.

Edited September 21, 201410 yr by n4yr

The general trend seems to be songs by black artists not charting well in some European country or dance songs not charting well in the US.

There MUST be a reason for this but "Stan" only made #51 in the US.

That's a great example!

There MUST be a reason for this but "Stan" only made #51 in the US.

 

Don't know why, but I'd suspect it's something to do with the song's lack of airplay (only #33 on pop radio and #36 on urban radio), which is factored into the US chart. Maybe the song had limited availability in US stores too or something.

Of course I always use only the sales charts, even for the USA.

Additionally in the Netherlands the sales Top 100 has the official status so it duly is usually referred to when analysing chart performance in your country. :)

Practically each country except from the United States uses sales (+ streaming) as indicator of success. If a song is high on airplay but people refuse to buy or stream it, it definitely doesn't deserve to chart high. OneRepublic's music is for instance very radio-friendly so it would automatically mean all their tracks are hits which obviously is not the case. Even their most loyal public in Germany didn't particularly like "Something I Need" in spite of its exposure and the song flopped even though almost every other single from them is an instant smash over there.

 

When it comes to Spears, she's also pretty irrelevant these days in Germany, Austria and a couple of other markets including the UK so you're not alone there in the Netherlands. ;)

I think you missed the point.

The sales chart is NOT the official chart, the top 40 is. It's regarded the most representative of the Dutch taste, due to artist not being able to buy themselves their chart positions.

I think you missed the point.

The sales chart is NOT the official chart, the top 40 is. It's regarded the most representative of the Dutch taste, due to artist not being able to buy themselves their chart positions.

You're wrong, Tim. The Netherlands has 3 official charts:

 

Single Top 100

Dutch Top 40

Mega Top 50

 

There's nothing like "representativity of Dutch (or any other nation's) taste" as the nation as a whole obviously has no taste of its own. Each of the above charts is compiled differently and one may indeed argue that the Top 40 represents the best what seems like the most popular current songs around. Nevertheless, it uses airplay data which is why it doesn't represent what people select to consume unlike in every other European country. If we are to compare successes in various territories, let's not mix apples with pears. When we use the Official UK Sales Chart to determine the song's status in the British Isles, it's logical to look at the sales chart from the Netherlands as well especially if it IS official, just like the combined one.

Madonna - Material Girl, top 20 everywhere apart from France where it peaked at #47 and again "Cherish" a worldwide top 20 smash but #21 in France, even "Vogue" only managed a #9 peak. "Secret" #29 over there as well. "American Pie" a smash hit everywhere but only #29 in USA. Also "Hung Up" which didn't flop but #1 everywhere but #7 in the USA.

"Secret" was a smash in France reaching #2, it was in Germany where it stalled at #29.

"Cherish" wasn't such a huge hit in Madonna's discography so its French peak of #21 wasn't such a big disappointment after all.

"American Pie" wasn't released in the USA so it shouldn't count in here.

 

Besides, Brazil and Czech Republic don't have sales chart, their official rankings have always been based on airplay, only recently some digital and streaming charts start to emerge.

You're wrong, Tim. The Netherlands has 3 official charts:

 

Single Top 100

Dutch Top 40

Mega Top 50

 

There's nothing like "representativity of Dutch (or any other nation's) taste" as the nation as a whole obviously has no taste of its own. Each of the above charts is compiled differently and one may indeed argue that the Top 40 represents the best what seems like the most popular current songs around. Nevertheless, it uses airplay data which is why it doesn't represent what people select to consume unlike in every other European country. If we are to compare successes in various territories, let's not mix apples with pears. When we use the Official UK Sales Chart to determine the song's status in the British Isles, it's logical to look at the sales chart from the Netherlands as well especially if it IS official, just like the combined one.

Lord... Do I need to spell it out for you?

Nobody uses the single top 100. The mega top 50 is a chart compiled by a radio station called 3FM and dear lord do you seriously think I wouldn't know the charts of my own country?!

Lord... Do I need to spell it out for you?

Nobody uses the single top 100. The mega top 50 is a chart compiled by a radio station called 3FM and dear lord do you seriously think I wouldn't know the charts of my own country?!

I'm not a lord (yet) ;)

You can spell what you want. It won't change the fact that the singles Top 100 is official whether you like it or not. ;)

It wouldn't have been given the official status if no-one had used it (used for what by the way?)

I'm not saying you don't know the charts of your own country but their knowledge is public so one doesn't have to live in your country to know them.

How many number 1's will Jessie J have with Bang Bang?

"Zombie" by The Cranberries was a HUGE hit all across Europe... yet somehow only reached number 14 in the UK chart...

"Zombie" by The Cranberries was a HUGE hit all across Europe... yet somehow only reached number 14 in the UK chart...

 

So weird for them, I remember "Linger" having big airplay too and only reaching No.14. I think it was more of a case of people deciding to buy the albums instead, as both "Anybody Else..." and "No Need To Argue" were huge.

I'm not a lord (yet) ;)

You can spell what you want. It won't change the fact that the singles Top 100 is official whether you like it or not. ;)

It wouldn't have been given the official status if no-one had used it (used for what by the way?)

I'm not saying you don't know the charts of your own country but their knowledge is public so one doesn't have to live in your country to know them.

 

Yet you are getting it wrong time after time. Listen to Tim. He knows.