How is that when iTunes doesn't include streaming? (as far as I'm aware)

What? I don't understand what you're talking about.

 

iTunes is not a streaming site, why should it count streaming? lol

He's saying why would there be any correlation to Taylor Swift falling down the iTunes chart since she removed her songs from streaming (I think).

He's saying why would there be any correlation to Taylor Swift falling down the iTunes chart since she removed her songs from streaming (I think).

I think he just misunderstood it.

 

It's just a theory, but now that her song is not on the streaming sites anymore has also a negative effect on her sales too.

I think he just misunderstood it.

 

It's just a theory, but now that her song is not on the streaming sites anymore has also a negative effect on her sales too.

 

Yeah Dobbo was right, but I don't get why no no Spotify leads to less sales? An I missing something?

on the other hand do you think people who have Spotify subscription or sit through adverts will pay more to buy Taylor's songs or just illegally download it?

 

I think this is the way backwards not forwards.

Some acts have been trying to get Spotify to agree to only allowing premium subscribers to be able to stream an album in the early days of it being released. Jonathan Dickins, Adele's manager, has called for Spotify to have a window between making something available on the premium platform before making it available on the free service.

 

http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/jonatha...ree-tier/060071

 

I agree with him. I pay £9.99 a month so I feel like I should get some perk over a free service subscriber.

 

As for Taylor Swift, she should have left her single on Spotify regardless of what she or her management decided to do with the rest of the album. It would have helped keep the single higher up those charts around the world which include streaming data. This increases visibility and so helps promote the album.

 

So why do people pay to stream when you can for free on youtube? No doubt it's obvious, but I'm just curious :D

So why do people pay to stream when you can for free on youtube? No doubt it's obvious, but I'm just curious :D

 

1. You get the proper single release quality

2. If you pay, you get no ads.

3. If you pay, you can download the music to play offline.

4. It counts towards the chart :P

1. You get the proper single release quality

2. If you pay, you get no ads.

3. If you pay, you can download the music to play offline.

4. It counts towards the chart :P

 

1. Audio streams (official channels with (Audio) in the title)

2. AdBlock :kink:

3. ListenToYouTube.com :kink:

4. I'm sorry I don't have a comeback for this one :kink:

1. Audio streams (official channels with (Audio) in the title)

2. AdBlock :kink:

3. ListenToYouTube.com :kink:

4. I'm sorry I don't have a comeback for this one :kink:

For 2. - if you use the free Spotify service you also get spoken ads for the premium Spotify service after every (if I recall) third song and these can't be blocked.

 

Robbie? Is that you?

For 2. - if you use the free Spotify service you also get spoken ads for the premium Spotify service after every (if I recall) third song and these can't be blocked.

 

That's surely just another point in YouTube's favour :P

That's surely just another point in YouTube's favour :P

 

My point exactly! The only real reason to Spotify is to count to the charts! And maybe not even that looking at the last few posts!

Robbie? Is that you?

It is! Why do you keep changing your username?

 

I just personally don't think streaming will help the music industry in the long run.

 

I'm a Tori Amos fan and I purchased her latest album this year, then listened to it a lot on Spotify and wondered why I bothered buying it and I'm a big fan of hers (not because the quality wasbad but because of having it free on Spotify).

My point exactly! The only real reason to Spotify is to count to the charts! And maybe not even that looking at the last few posts!

You Tube are launching a subscription service very soon, which will come in both ad-free (£9.99) and ad-funded (free to the subscriber) packages. For the ad-free version it will be bundled with Google streaming service, Google Play Music. And I expect by this time next year YouTube plays will also count towards the chart or at the very least it won't be far off. The only thing that has been holding that up has been the lack of a subscription model in order to calculate the ratio for converting YouTube plays into "sales".

 

http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/youtube...-service/060102

 

And at some point next year, probably in the early part of 2015, iTunes will also be launching a full subcription streaming service (possibly priced at £7.99 or £8.99, to undercut Spotify) which will immediately be included in chart data. When that subscription service launches I can foresee a collapse in the digital sales market.

It is! Why do you keep changing your username?

 

I changed my username because I changed my mind :lol:

 

I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep my current one though, for a while anyway bbut you are welcome to carry on referring to me as hotchoc :lol:

It does indeed look like sales are going to become a thing of the past :( it looks like hopefully it'll be a while yet though :D

 

iTunes trying to be cheaper than other prices? I never thought I'd see the day! :o

And at some point next year, probably in the early part of 2015, iTunes will also be launching a full subcription streaming service (possibly priced at £7.99 or £8.99, to undercut Spotify) which will immediately be included in chart data. When that subscription service launches I can foresee a collapse in the digital sales market.

 

Will this mean that streaming will be included in the iTunes chart alongside the existing sales?

Will this mean that streaming will be included in the iTunes chart alongside the existing sales?

I'd imagine iTunes would continue to list the best selling tracks as now with a separate streaming chart. This is because streaming plays would be much higher than download sales and would effectively make any combined chart a streaming chart by default.

Do you think the % of sales for a stream will change then?