the downside of having the same international release date for all artists is the inability for artists releasing singles or albums to promote worldwide at the week of release, since they will have to travel all around the globe in a week to promote their release, while they used to spend a week in each country depending on the release date in that country....

Just to clarify things.

The Friday release date was introduced in the early 1960's (Probably around 1962). Prior to that records were released in the first week of each month. In 1980 Polydor released a Jam Single on a Monday as apposed to the Friday. Records continued to be released for several years on a Friday, though some record companies released them Monday. Physical records continue to be released Monday, but iTunes introduced a Sunday release day instead.

There were no charts issued in the UK prior to 1952, apart from Sheet Music Charts. The top 30 charts reported by the forum member from 1940 to 1952 were never issued at the time they cover. They were based on Music Publishers sending records out the shops, not what was actually sold to members of the public. The charts themselves are thus flawed. For example Christmas records were ordered in large numbers up to Christmas and the orders stopped afterwards. These charts show that effect with a popular Christmas record being placed top and the chart after Christmas the record removed from the chart. Something which wouldn't happen in a sales based chart, not based on physical records anyway. The book that these charts are found in is full of errors. With the incorrect record A side listed a lot of the time.

The Official charts from 1969 always used the date system that is in place now. The fact that Radio One reported it on Tuesday was down to the fact that the BMRB couldn't produce the chart for broadcast the previous Sunday due to the way it was compiled. This meant that when it was broadcast on a Sunday it was two weeks old.

 

There wasn't any need to change the chart date at all. Especially as the Official Chart uses streaming now. Record companies pressed for the change to the chart in the belief that certain boybands and some dance tracks who have big fan bases, will push the record to number one if they have a full first week of sales only. If the chart stayed as it is then, these acts will only a have two days of sales then a week with reduced sales as the fans would have got what they want in the first four days of sales.

However since streaming was introduced it's unlikely even a big sales push can give one of these acts a number one now. If they had kept to the correct week of sales. The record companies of these acts could have continued to use the Sunday or Monday dates to pull the above off. As the Global release date is simply a "gentlemen's agreement" and is not compulsory. But it would have made the Music Industry look stupid if they broke the rule quickly.

It seems these days that few records actually stick to the official release date anyway. Amazon, HMV and Google Play are already selling the Lost Frequencies track, which is still on pre-order on iTunes. They themselves release tracks off albums any time they wish.

As it has been stated the Global release date will not stop the UK getting tracks later than other parts of Europe. But that might go if the European Union allows Download sellers to sell to customers outside the areas the sellers are based in. Apparently this is being introduced.

There wasn't any need to change the chart date at all. Especially as the Official Chart uses streaming now. Record companies pressed for the change to the chart in the belief that certain boybands and some dance tracks who have big fan bases, will push the record to number one if they have a full first week of sales only. If the chart stayed as it is then, these acts will only a have two days of sales then a week with reduced sales as the fans would have got what they want in the first four days of sales.

However since streaming was introduced it's unlikely even a big sales push can give one of these acts a number one now. If they had kept to the correct week of sales. The record companies of these acts could have continued to use the Sunday or Monday dates to pull the above off. As the Global release date is simply a "gentlemen's agreement" and is not compulsory. But it would have made the Music Industry look stupid if they broke the rule quickly.

It seems these days that few records actually stick to the official release date anyway. Amazon, HMV and Google Play are already selling the Lost Frequencies track, which is still on pre-order on iTunes. They themselves release tracks off albums any time they wish.

As it has been stated the Global release date will not stop the UK getting tracks later than other parts of Europe. But that might go if the European Union allows Download sellers to sell to customers outside the areas the sellers are based in. Apparently this is being introduced.

 

This is what I can't get my head around. Moving the release date does not require moving the charts itself. They would have been more interesting if kept on a Sunday. It's quite like when the record companies dropped OA/OS because they couldn't han fine the unpredictability of it. We're so backwards compared to the rest of the world.

 

This is what I can't get my head around. Moving the release date does not require moving the charts itself. They would have been more interesting if kept on a Sunday.

I think they moved it because they don't want that the chart leaks before the chartshow.

At the end of the day with UK release strategies as they are it probably won't seem like there is much of a point - although the benefit will be more for albums than singles as Joseph and other says. But when it definitely will have benefits in every other country in the world - where releases aren't held back for the majority of songs - what's the point in having a different release day just for the UK?

If they'd just release ALL songs to streaming straight away and held the download back I'd be relatively happy!

Although a lot of people hate the Big Top 40 format, how many of the 1ish million former BBC Radio 1 Sunday chart show listeners will switch over just because they still want their Sunday Ritual, the BT40 audience currently is 2.5 million ish

Although a lot of people hate the Big Top 40 format, how many of the 1ish million former BBC Radio 1 Sunday chart show listeners will switch over just because they still want their Sunday Ritual, the BT40 audience currently is 2.5 million ish

 

I might listen to this sometimes.. there's also The Ultimate UK Chart as well

That's true although they may just continue to listen on to whatever show radio 1 have on as a lot don't listen specifically for the chart.

This has probably already been mentioned - what are Radio 1 replacing it with for the Sunday slot?

I think they moved it because they don't want that the chart leaks before the chartshow.

 

Obviously but my point was that the chart week doesn't have to begin with the day new songs get released. In fact, the chart would be more interesting if it wasn't.

Obviously but my point was that the chart week doesn't have to begin with the day new songs get released. In fact, the chart would be more interesting if it wasn't.

Ah OK, there's sense but I guess it wouldn't work, because then the labels will go back to release songs on Sundays, no matter what's the global release day

This has probably already been mentioned - what are Radio 1 replacing it with for the Sunday slot?

I don't think we know yet. We should find out fairly soon.

I can imagine it being a "look back" at the week on the station.

Will the 4:30 and 5pm Newsbeats be ditched during the new slot?

Not a fan of Greg James, would much prefer Clara to continue.

This has probably already been mentioned - what are Radio 1 replacing it with for the Sunday slot?

 

They are doing some sort of collaboration with CBBC so it's gonna be shit.

BBC Radio 1 team up with Official Charts for new Number 1s Sunday show

 

By Rob Copsey

 

BBC Radio 1 has announced a new Sunday afternoon show dedicated to all things Number 1.

 

Kicking off at 4pm on Sunday July 19, the first two hours of the show - which marks the third on Radio 1 powered by Official Charts Company data - will be devoted to "breaking new pop music" plus a selection of content from Radio 1, CBBC and online.

 

Between 6-7pm, new Radio 1 host Cel Spellman will present The Number 1 Show, where every song played will be a Number 1 - whether it’s the week’s Official Number 1 streamed song, rock track or music video.

 

During the hour, Cel will also recap on Friday’s Official Top 10 and play the current Number 1 single as well as a looking at the latest ‘must see’ films at the cinema and new computer games.

 

"Having grown up listening to the likes of Chris Moyles and the legendary Zane Lowe, joining the Radio 1 family is both a privilege and an honour!” Cel said.

 

“The best station on national radio has been responsible for introducing me to so much incredible and varied music over the years, I just hope I can return the favour and help make those car journeys a little more memorable for the listeners with a mix of fun, top tunes and a little bit of cheeky chat!”

 

Martin Talbot, Chief Executive, Official Charts Company, added: "We’re extremely excited at the launch of The Number 1 Show – which further reinforces our close and long-standing relationship with the BBC.

 

"Alongside the confirmation that the Official Chart Update will move to a Monday 5.30pm slot, it means that the Official Charts will be working with Radio 1 on three separate shows for the first time in our history (Friday’s Official Chart Show, Sunday’s The Number 1 Show and Monday’s Official Chart Update).

 

“We look forward to working with Cel Spellman and his new Radio 1 team-mates in his debut radio slot - and helping him provide the ultimate guide to the nation’s Number 1 favourites.”

 

The show - which replaces the Official Chart Show that from July 10 moves to a Friday to coincide with New Music Fridays - is aimed at younger audiences, designed to serve as an essential guide to the week ahead before they return to school.

 

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/b...day-show__9906/

 

Interesting! May give the first show a listen as their is nothing on Sunday afternoons in the summer.

They are doing some sort of collaboration with CBBC so it's gonna be shit.

 

Oh I take that back, it sounds quite good.

So our new line up for all the new chart change action will be

 

SCP Thread: Saturdays :lol:

The New #1 Show: Sunday (from July 19th)

Mids/Radio 1 Chart Update with top 5 sales : Monday

Mids: Tues

Mids: Wed

Chart show: Friday

Sales topic: Friday

 

I can't see getting sales information at the weekend, the latest will be Monday if we get any, and I doubt there will be any on Thursdays prior to the cutting off period.