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Yes, and how do songs get in to the Top 100 playlist in the first place?

 

Oh that's right, popularity! :lol:

 

Exactly

 

Sales chart is more dynamic only because the volumes are lower than they have been in years. Low volumes -> bigger climbs/drops/more debuts

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If I remember correctly, Alex Day's 'Forever Yours' went from #4 to out of the top 100!

Oh yeah, completely forgot about Alex Day!

Exactly

 

Sales chart is more dynamic only because the volumes are lower than they have been in years. Low volumes -> bigger climbs/drops/more debuts

Well this is not the only reason. Even if the sales are high the sales chart will be less stale than the streaming chart naturally. You buy a song only once (mostly) and the fact that you like a song doesn't affect the chart for as many weeks as you wish.

Sort of, yes. But if I remember correctly, the chart was pretty stale 2013-2014 before the streaming was added too.

 

(and Thinking Out Loud for example is still top 40 on sales too)

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Yes, and how do songs get in to the Top 100 playlist in the first place?

 

Oh that's right, popularity! :lol:

 

He means that if something is in one of the top 100 lists (or any high profile playlist on Spotify for that matter), then it'll keep getting high streams because so many people listen to them, which makes it more difficult for new songs to get in, etc. Being in the top 100 gives you extra exposure so more streams, it's a little bit like the top 10 effect on iTunes.

 

It'd be impossible to really test it, but I bet the streaming charts would move a little bit faster at least if people were forced to search for individual songs to play or forced to make their own playlists.

well the top 100 list on spotify is now a top 50, which probably means the streaming chart will be even more slower now
No :(

quite annoying considering it is #24 on worldwide spotify, I imagine when they put it up for streaming it'll get momentum quickly, but I don't get the point of waiting to put a song up for streaming.

 

On air, on stream is the way forward.

I don't see any benefit to hold back a song on streaming. With sales it's more understandable but I cannot find literally any single benefit with regards to streaming.
Yes, and how do songs get in to the Top 100 playlist in the first place?

 

Oh that's right, popularity! :lol:

Not really, some of the Spotify play lists are pre made I've found a d don't contain hits at the time. In the most streamed ones are often ones that haven't even been released yet I've noticed. Omi, Galantis and Kygo are examples of this.

 

Most people also only really use Spotify for house parties and the like and aren't exactly indicative of what they would usually listen to either if that makes sense?

 

I've never seen the point in adding it but hey ho.

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The playlists may have been made, but people still have to choose to listen to these songs. Much as with music on sale, there are some songs which benefit from having masses of promo/money behind them from large record companies against those that don't. See: Simon Cowell/Syco.

 

I would also take issue with 'Most people also only really use Spotify for house parties' by which you probably mean some people only really use it for house parties.

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Most people will listen to them, as most people don't have Spotify Premium and the normal version wont enable you to skip over a certain amount of songs either. So there is that as well, it is very flawed imo.
Most people will listen to them, as most people don't have Spotify Premium and the normal version wont enable you to skip over a certain amount of songs either. So there is that as well, it is very flawed imo.

 

On mobile you can't, you can on the desktop version. But I assumed you meant that people having houseparties would use the Premium version anyway, surely they wouldn't be listening to adverts at a party?

 

That said, I do mainly agree with the original point that being in the big playlists is a help, just like being on the front page of iTunes is a help, and like having your singles in the front of the shop was a help in the physical era.

When your listening to spotify do you have to be in a wifi area or it'll take all your 3G up or does it just play?
The playlists may have been made, but people still have to choose to listen to these songs.

 

They don't though. Playlists are for when people don't want to have to go through all the effort of choosing a song to listen to every 3 minutes. They just choose a playlist that they think they'll like, and whatever songs are lucky enough to be included will be the ones getting the streaming points.

 

It's not too major an issue imo, it might only be having a very small effect on the charts overall, but it certainly won't be helping new songs climb the charts faster...

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