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OPINION POLLS 2017

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1. Politicians should be selected based on ability and values, not money. Rich people running the world is nothing to do with "people being unhappy whatever" because that is just shoulder-shrugging excusing, as usual.

 

2. Don't vote for parties that stick rich candidates up to be voted for. Vote for those that hold values that stand up for looking after ordinary people. Simple.....

 

1. Unfortunately ability & morality are subjective qualities, so how on earth are you supposed to test for them when selecting candidates?

 

2. The problem is, a lot of people take no interest in who their candidate is, instead just voting for the party label. Also, people hold different values to be important. so candidate qualities that appeal to one voter, may not appeal to another.

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It's NOT catch 22. It's simple: select MPs who are not rich and who value the poor and don't vote Tory. Done.
It's NOT catch 22. It's simple: select MPs who are not rich and who value the poor and don't vote Tory. Done.

 

But what should people do if they *want* to vote Tory?

Well, first they should stop reading the sun and failymail. If we end brainwashing, we end the Tories
But what should people do if they *want* to vote Tory?

 

Make it plain to the local Tory Party that selects the rich candidate that they can't expect your support if they don't take a wider view of people based more on ability than wealth. Not all Tories are heartless and rich, quite a few are decent (gasp!) human beings.

 

I take what you say about people voting for the Party rather than candidate - but it's important to take a stand. If our local Tories made a stand against our tick-box rich local MP who doesn't care about anyone but himself and does nothing for locals, or for useless local councillors, then things might change, but as long as people are content to vote regardless of who is representing them then they get the candidate they deserve. That applies to all parties.

Make it plain to the local Tory Party that selects the rich candidate that they can't expect your support if they don't take a wider view of people based more on ability than wealth. Not all Tories are heartless and rich, quite a few are decent (gasp!) human beings.

 

Will you tell Queef, or shall I? :heehee:

 

I take what you say about people voting for the Party rather than candidate - but it's important to take a stand. If our local Tories made a stand against our tick-box rich local MP who doesn't care about anyone but himself and does nothing for locals, or for useless local councillors, then things might change, but as long as people are content to vote regardless of who is representing them then they get the candidate they deserve. That applies to all parties.

 

This is why I've long advocated STV - it would force parties to put up a range of candidates, hardliners & moderates, or they'd lose some of their votes.

2. The problem is, a lot of people take no interest in who their candidate is, instead just voting for the party label. Also, people hold different values to be important. so candidate qualities that appeal to one voter, may not appeal to another.

That, of course, is one of many reasons for supporting STV. It puts the power in the hands of the electorate to elect the candidates they want, not just the one put forward by the party of their choice. The Tories (to take an example) would look ridiculous if all their candidates for a seat were white male millionaires.

 

EDIT: Oops, you got there before me :lol:

That, of course, is one of many reasons for supporting STV. It puts the power in the hands of the electorate to elect the candidates they want, not just the one put forward by the party of their choice. The Tories (to take an example) would look ridiculous if all their candidates for a seat were white male millionaires.

 

EDIT: Oops, you got there before me :lol:

 

It might also help with the issue of women/minority candidates.

Pfft wait for Survation.

 

This fake poll will havr been commissioned by Brexiters to force Mad May's hand, OR by someone who wants the narrative that Trump's non-non-popularity is rubbing off on the Republican Concubine Party. The real numbers have Labour ahead handily anyway.

 

Oh, look - they put 5 into UKIP. Yup. It is a Brexiter narrative. Wonder how kuch they paid for this poll?

Pfft wait for Survation.

 

This fake poll will havr been commissioned by Brexiters to force Mad May's hand, OR by someone who wants the narrative that Trump's non-non-popularity is rubbing off on the Republican Concubine Party. The real numbers have Labour ahead handily anyway.

 

Oh, look - they put 5 into UKIP. Yup. It is a Brexiter narrative. Wonder how kuch they paid for this poll?

 

But this poll was in your beloved Guardian - surely it should have been in the Mail, given what you claim about it?

Opinion poll companies are opinion poll companies. Do not trust them. They are in bed with the elite.
Opinion poll companies are opinion poll companies. Do not trust them. They are in bed with the elite.

 

You seem to be developing a real obsession about the 'elite' -

 

Just because society isn't the way you'd like it to be, *doesn't* mean there is a plot to make it that way. Even I'm not *that* paranoid, about political correctness! :wacko:

 

Opinion poll companies are opinion poll companies. Do not trust them. They are in bed with the elite.

The opinion poll companies make most of their money by doing research for commercial organisations. They will only be employed by those organisations if they are trusted.

The opinion poll companies make most of their money by doing research for commercial organisations. They will only be employed by those organisations if they are trusted.

 

Besides, opinion polls who get GE predictions very wrong will find themselves losing business, therefore their vested interests like in being accurate, rather than partisan.

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