Ben Wallace seems incapable of spotting the difference between targeted surveillance and blanket surveillance.

Mass indiscriminate surveillance should never be acceptable. If you can prove to a judge you have sufficient reason to tap someone’s comms then by all means go ahead. Otherwise the right to privacy should take precedence. I know the old adage of “if you’ve nothing to hide..” but that’s not a good enough reason for mass surveillance

Mass indiscriminate surveillance should never be acceptable. If you can prove to a judge you have sufficient reason to tap someone’s comms then by all means go ahead. Otherwise the right to privacy should take precedence. I know the old adage of “if you’ve nothing to hide..” but that’s not a good enough reason for mass surveillance

The appropriate response to the lazy "If you've got nothing to hide..." argument is to ask them when it would be convenient to instal cameras throughout their home.

The appropriate response to the lazy "If you've got nothing to hide..." argument is to ask them when it would be convenient to instal cameras throughout their home.

 

What happens if they call that bluff, and say 'I wouldn't mind'? :thinking:

What happens if they call that bluff, and say 'I wouldn't mind'? :thinking:

 

call their bluff and install them. Costs virtually nothing these days and it can be streamed live.

Get them to sign a release first. You want that permission in writing so they can't sue you when you start making bank off the livestream

Get them to sign a release first. You want that permission in writing so they can't sue you when you start making bank off the livestream

I'm not sure there'd be that much demand for a live stream from Gove's bedroom :puke2:

Different strokes for different folks! People get their rocks off to all sorts of things

 

Although yes I can’t imagine Gove being a high seller.

I'm not sure there'd be that much demand for a live stream from Gove's bedroom :puke2:

 

Dunno, the Exorcist vomit scene was pretty popular....

So a Jacob Rees Mogg supporter (ane not part of the 1%, so bizarre he supports him!) punched a female protestor in the face. This government is a shambles.

 

Ah, THAT'S why the BBTory is acting like penguins and Spice Girls are the biggest news ever. They are covering for rhe government and not showing a mass march on London protesting against Jeremt Hunt's NHS privatisation.

 

Shameful.

Ah, THAT'S why the BBTory is acting like penguins and Spice Girls are the biggest news ever. They are covering for rhe government and not showing a mass march on London protesting against Jeremt Hunt's NHS privatisation.

 

Shameful.

 

You know if they did cover that though, they'd be accused of anti-Tory bias, :rolleyes:

By reporting ACTUAL NEWS AND EVENTS rather than just praising the Tories every chance they get?

By reporting ACTUAL NEWS AND EVENTS rather than just praising the Tories every chance they get?

 

Are we watching the *same* BBC? :rolleyes:

 

Seriously though, I'd hate to be the news director of the BBC - whatever political stories you choose to run, you'll be accused of bias by the other side.

If you actively promote the Tories, showing ALL of Theresa May's speech but ignoring Corbyn rallies ... until AFTER the election, when they were somehow shocked we did not want the Landed Gentry anymore, and actively IGNORE HUGE LONDON PROTESTS in favour of showing penguins, and have a revolving door between the Tories and BBC, then that is bias.

Reports in the Sunday Times that Boris is going to challenge May soon with Gove as Deputy and Rees-Mogg his Chancellor. Boris's dream team! Go Boris. He can't be any worse than May surely.

He is atrocious, truly TERRIBLE.

 

Who voted for these bumbling overpriviliged Eton dolts?

 

Embarrassing. A second Trump.

 

However, anythin to split the Tories and get them out.

 

(Also that team makes me VOM :puke: )

Reports in the Sunday Times that Boris is going to challenge May soon with Gove as Deputy and Rees-Mogg his Chancellor. Boris's dream team! Go Boris. He can't be any worse than May surely.

 

Oh yes he can, he's useless and a liar and doesn't care a hoot about people, hoping to distract them with whimsy.

 

All of them hate the poor and Rees-Mogg especially benefit "scroungers", so be careful what you wish for...

Johnson's special talent is that he would be even worse than May. His only priority is his own ego, an ego even bigger than his massive waist size. Mogg's priority as Chancellor would be to create some more tax avoidance schemes for himself and his rich chums.

Johnson's special talent is that he would be even worse than May. His only priority is his own ego, an ego even bigger than his massive waist size.

 

Fat-shaming - how un-PC of you... ;)