In the past when a song has spent 10+ weeks at no. 1 it has meant that it has broken out of a certain demographic, and everybody knows it regardless of age. I'm thinking songs like Uptown Funk and Happy (and yes, I know they didn't spend 10 weeks at no 1). I just don't see that One Dance has broken out of it's target demographic, which is really evidenced by the fact that it has held on to no 1 for so long beacuse of streaming.

well even if 'One Dance' hasn't broken outside its target demographic - the charts aren't a measure of the most cross-appealing songs, they're a measure of most consumed songs - and within the demographic of Spotify users, 'One Dance' is just massively popular. It's the kind of popularity that you rarely see too, it's quite amazing how its managed to stabilise at such high streams for such a long time.

In the past when a song has spent 10+ weeks at no. 1 it has meant that it has broken out of a certain demographic, and everybody knows it regardless of age. I'm thinking songs like Uptown Funk and Happy (and yes, I know they didn't spend 10 weeks at no 1). I just don't see that One Dance has broken out of it's target demographic, which is really evidenced by the fact that it has held on to no 1 for so long beacuse of streaming.

This is what I think too really. My dad didn't have a clue how 'One Dance' went but he'd be able to recognise 'Umbrella', 'Uptown Funk', 'Happy', 'Crazy' etc. They appealed to people across the ages and they had cultural impact whereas, as has been said, 'One Dance' seems to be only invested in by a certain young demographic and seemingly more specifically those who use Spotify. That said, I'm 18 years old and, whilst I know people who do like the song, I can't say I've picked up on a strong love for it. It does seem to be a song that people like when they hear it on radio or in the club but it's not referred to otherwise. I remember people going mad for 'Uptown Funk', learning the dance moves and citing lyrics whenever they felt appropriate, and that just doesn't happen with 'One Dance'. There's no denying it is a very popular song - the facts are there to prove so - but it doesn't hit the right criteria that's applied to long running #1s, which does lead me to believe that when radio stop playing it so much, it will become '''forgotten'''.

I think we'll find songs staying at no 1 for weeks and weeks will become the norm now.

I reckon the occ will change the rules any day now to try and make the charts faster

I think they shouldn't use playlists towards the charts because people aren't always intentially listening to the song, it could just be playing in the background

Chances of Calum Scott making #3 or #2 this week?

I'm going to jump on the bandwagon regarding One Dance, I think it will be remembered as a chart statistic record more than anything along with Bryan Adams and Wet Wet Wet as these tracks have spend longer at #1 more than anything, but as Liam said on the previous page its not a song like Uptown Funk with a beat that you can get into and dance with it. Now One Dance is there by default, as no other artist has attempted to release something more catchy in the past month, I know we had JT, Calvin etc etc hogging the top 3 for some time, but that was in the early stage of One Dance being at #1.

 

And what are the chances with X Factor looming soon, that someone will do their own interpretation of One Dance which could send it back to #1 on a low sales week :drama: -_-

How many of you remembers I Believe by Frankie Laine btw? I bet there's a song that doesn't really ring bells on street gallup :D

I think they shouldn't use playlists towards the charts because people aren't always intentially listening to the song, it could just be playing in the background

I kind of agree with this as it will be the case a lot of the time, but how do you distinguish between that and when someone is intentionally listening to a playlist for the songs on it?

In the past when a song has spent 10+ weeks at no. 1 it has meant that it has broken out of a certain demographic, and everybody knows it regardless of age. I'm thinking songs like Uptown Funk and Happy (and yes, I know they didn't spend 10 weeks at no 1). I just don't see that One Dance has broken out of it's target demographic, which is really evidenced by the fact that it has held on to no 1 for so long beacuse of streaming.

 

Perfect. Full stop

 

Weather we like or don't like one dance, do most of us agree that the chart is too bloody slow?

To most people in the street they are forgettable, go and ask people in the street to name a Drake, JayZ or Kanye song or even ask if they know who they are see what repsonse you get?

 

Then ask people in the street to name a Cliff Richard, Rod Stewart or Boyzone song and I bet you will get a different response.

 

I'm not even a big fan of rap (besides Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim :P) and I can name loads of Drake, Jay Z and Kanye songs.

 

I only know one Cliff Richard song (it's a Christmas song), one Rod Stewart song (because of Sheryl Crow) and I can think of about one Boyzone song as well off the top of my head.

 

Who are these people in the street? I would be seriously concerned if somebody wasn't even vaguely aware of Kanye or Jay Z :huh:

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I kind of agree with this as it will be the case a lot of the time, but how do you distinguish between that and when someone is intentionally listening to a playlist for the songs on it?

 

 

Who knows, that's the truoble, I guess the other scenario,is you take the song off the main playlists after a certain amount of weeks and just have them on more specialist ones. But even taking that into affect its still crazy how long that song has been number one for, some are saying it's because there isn't a video

I'm not even a big fan of rap (besides Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim :P) and I can name loads of Drake, Jay Z and Kanye songs.

 

I only know one Cliff Richard song (it's a Christmas song), one Rod Stewart song (because of Sheryl Crow) and I can think of about one Boyzone song as well off the top of my head.

 

Who are these people in the street? I would be seriously concerned if somebody wasn't even vaguely aware of Kanye or Jay Z :huh:

 

Fair point, but would it be for their music or who they are married to?

 

I'm not even a big fan of rap (besides Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim :P) and I can name loads of Drake, Jay Z and Kanye songs.

 

I only know one Cliff Richard song (it's a Christmas song), one Rod Stewart song (because of Sheryl Crow) and I can think of about one Boyzone song as well off the top of my head.

 

Who are these people in the street? I would be seriously concerned if somebody wasn't even vaguely aware of Kanye or Jay Z :huh:

You would be 'seriously concerned'?

I'm pretty sure neither my parents or brother would have ever heard of them, but I don't want you to worry, they're coping OK :P

 

Looks like Drake will breaking 60k this week, not only because of the 59p effect but his streams have picked up for whatever reason.

I'm not even a big fan of rap (besides Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim :P) and I can name loads of Drake, Jay Z and Kanye songs.

 

I only know one Cliff Richard song (it's a Christmas song), one Rod Stewart song (because of Sheryl Crow) and I can think of about one Boyzone song as well off the top of my head.

 

Who are these people in the street? I would be seriously concerned if somebody wasn't even vaguely aware of Kanye or Jay Z :huh:

 

Cliff Richard's songs are played everywhere in the world and still to this day, i live in Lebanon and his 'Congratulations' song keeps getting played at every wedding party or graduation, not to mention his Christmas songs... Rod Stewart has released some of the most classic songs of the 70s and 80s that are still airplayed and performed all over the globe... As for Jay Z and Kanye and Drake, i don't think they will be remembered as stand alone artists, since most of their songs are collaborations...

Cliff and Rod are totally incomparable to Kanye and Jay Z anyway because they have TOTALLY different audiences, so I'm not sure why this debate is happening :lol: The latter two are hugely influential in the world of rap, and although they are perhaps more niche beyond a few songs, they are still massively popular.

this whole discussion is a mess

How many of you remembers I Believe by Frankie Laine btw? I bet there's a song that doesn't really ring bells on street gallup :D

 

Aye. Wet Wet Wet too really, that seems a more natural comparison on ability to be remembered than to Bryan Adams. I don't get any feeling One Dance is impacting popular culture, but I could say the same for all the songs below him too. It's not a very inspiring time for music.

 

(plus I still have no idea why it's Drake of all people that's got such popularity when his songs get more monotone the more you listen to him but that's just my personal taste, I guess most of the other long-runners are dull songs too)