September 12, 20168 yr Author The Voice is staying the same host (well, one of them, Emma is staying) and Will.i.am has crossed over too so a channel change doesn't necessarily mean that Paul/Mary and Mel/Sue will quit, but with a new channel they might tweak it a bit and that may not sit well with some of them so they might leave over that, that's the worry for me. It's not gong to be the same but I guess it's better than outright cancelling. But it won't get the same viewers, nowhere near, especially without the tried and tesed combo of judges and hosts.
September 12, 20168 yr Pure greed has ruined one of the biggest cooking shows we've seen in a very long time. This is a show that gets everyone talking it has had a massive impact in the last few years and now it's on Channel 4 with their money they had for horse racing rights. Burbe. Do you have an link for Wimbledon on ITV. Unfortunately we live in an era where money talks for rights. Don't blame the BBC. I blame Love Productions who love a wad of cash and not seeing viewing figures high. You blame a small independent production company for wanting to make money? That's just business. Why would the production company turn down an extra £5 million, for the sake of loyalty and 'what the fans want', to make the same show on a different station? They have a viable product that is worth a lot of money to the highest bidder.. good on them! Maybe, considering it's the most watched show on TV, the BBC should have paid up for it? You can't blame Channel 4 for seeing how well it does, getting the opportunity to have that show on their station, and then winning the bid. Mel & Sue have shown before that they have no particular 'loyalty' to the BBC, they had their own daytime chat show on ITV lest we forget.. I'm pretty sure they can and will be bought. I'd put money on Paul Hollywood moving too but I'm not so sure about Mary. But, if she doesn't want to do it, there are a tonne of female chefs/bakers that would jump at it. I'm not convinced she would have stayed on the BBC version for much longer anyway. Edited September 12, 20168 yr by Kye
September 12, 20168 yr The production company is 70% owned by Sky though! They may be getting more money for it now but there's a high chance that the show's future has been drastically shortened than if it had stayed on thd BBC. The formula/judges/presenters are all so essential to the the show's success that even the slight chance of the introduction of adverts could damage the show's popularity. It is a BBC show at heart and they couldn't spend more money on it as they're in a period of incredible scrutiny where they're being told they can't spend lots of money even on successful shows, which is why they had to get rid of The Voice.
September 12, 20168 yr You blame a small independent production company for wanting to make money? That's just business. Why would the production company turn down an extra £5 million, for the sake of loyalty and 'what the fans want', to make the same show on a different station? They have a viable product that is worth a lot of money to the highest bidder.. good on them! Maybe, considering it's the most watched show on TV, the BBC should have paid up for it? You can't blame Channel 4 for seeing how well it does, getting the opportunity to have that show on their station, and then winning the bid. Mel & Sue have shown before that they have no particular 'loyalty' to the BBC, they had their own daytime chat show on ITV lest we forget.. I'm pretty sure they can and will be bought. I'd put money on Paul Hollywood moving too but I'm not so sure about Mary. But, if she doesn't want to do it, there are a tonne of female chefs/bakers that would jump at it. I'm not convinced she would have stayed on the BBC version for much longer anyway. Love Productions is 70% owned by Sky, so it isn't really a "small production company".
September 12, 20168 yr The production company is 70% owned by Sky though! They may be getting more money for it now but there's a high chance that the show's future has been drastically shortened than if it had stayed on the BBC. The formula/judges/presenters are all so essential to the the show's success that even the slight chance of the introduction of adverts could damage the show's popularity. It is a BBC show at heart and they couldn't spend more money on it as they're in a period of incredible scrutiny where they're being told they can't spend lots of money even on successful shows, which is why they had to get rid of The Voice. I just saw "UK-based independent production company set up in 2004" from their Twitter bio and went with that. My point still stands.. it's business. Why should they have to settle for what the BBC want to pay because it may lose popularity.. in their heads they're making the same show for more money. It's not their fault that the BBC can't afford it because they are under scrutiny, £5 million (if that's the figure) is a lot to say no to. Who's to say, with all the BBC cutbacks, that the whole GBBO ensemble would be returning in 2017? With the increase in viewers, yet again, they'd all be well within their right to ask for raises and not return if they didn't get them. We're in the DVR & Netflix generation, you don't have to watch the ad's these days. Yes, I'd prefer no adverts but I won't boycott the show because of their introduction. Edited September 12, 20168 yr by Kye
September 13, 20168 yr The figures I've seen mentioned is the BBC offered £15m for three series, but Channel 4 has paid £25m. That's a massive increase from £500k (or £1.5m for three) per series!
September 13, 20168 yr The BBC could go down a legal road on this, could they? As they point out, they nurtured the show and made it what it was (and, sorry, that's WAS - there is no chance in hell that it will be the same after a move). Wouldn't they be due some compensation? To pay for GBBO, the BBC would have probably needed to close at least one service, scrap several drama productions or lose a major sporting event. I guess they just thought they were being held to ransom. On the plus side, these shows have a certain shelf life and its best shows are probably already behind them. Wimbledon is free to air is it not? I don't think either channel can claim exclusivity - but I guess ITV could try to poach the BBC's folks.
September 13, 20168 yr Fair enough that is business. I'm just surprised that they were asking for £25m per year for the rights. That's all. Look at some of the jewels that BBC have lost: The Voice moved to ITVSix Nations Rugby- shared coverage with ITVFormula One- coverage moved to Channel 4The Open Golf- live coverage moved to Sky Sports In today's business like Kye has said, money talks.
September 13, 20168 yr It won't be the same once the series moves to Channel 4, but I'm willing to give it a go, and also did I hear right that Mary Berry was contemplating on leaving after this series, there are so many female bakers that could jump at the chance of been a judge. If they keep the same format, I know the ad breaks can be annoying at least it be available on +1 hour services without hardly any ad breaks. But please don't let Rylan Clark host the show -_- he did come top 3 in the Celebrity MasterChef last year.
September 13, 20168 yr The BBC could go down a legal road on this, could they? As they point out, they nurtured the show and made it what it was (and, sorry, that's WAS - there is no chance in hell that it will be the same after a move). Wouldn't they be due some compensation? I doubt there's any legal issue here, a contract is a contract and so if that runs out, the production conpany has free reign!
September 13, 20168 yr No :( I'm so annoyed at all of this, especially with news Mel & Sue are stepping down :(
September 13, 20168 yr Latest news release revealed that the BBC was £10m short (C4 purchased for £25m). I think regardless, a lot of people will tune into TGBBO but I don't think it will have the same success as it currently as on BBC.
September 13, 20168 yr also gotta a feelin the viewing figures are gonna get EVEN bigger for this series now. people will basically be viewing it as the last one and this coverage is huge
September 13, 20168 yr rly hope ant & dec are tied to ITV and aren't able to take over this! Yeh don't worry, they're in a Golden Handcuffs deal with ITV so they're only allowed to present shows on ITV. I really am convinced that Alan Carr will be hosting though, we all know he loves a good innuendo!
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