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The first charts are in and I'll contrast them against the III peaks for the nations. Firstly unfortunately for it's first week the album hasn't made the top 20 in Taiwan which is the first time this has happened since the reunion however there is obviously time for it to appear.

 

Australia : III (DNC) / Wonderland #28 (Highest peaking album since reunion!)

Austria: III (DNC) / Wonderland #47

Belgian (Flanders) : III #84 / Wonderland #43 (peak gain 41 places up)

Belgian (Wallonia) : III #118 / Wonderland #75 (peak gain 43 places up)

Denmark : III #23 / Wonderland (DNC top 40)

Germany : III #26 / Wonderland #19 (peak gain 7 places up)

Greece : III #53 / Wonderland #57 (peak drop 4 places down)

Ireland : III #6 / Wonderland #3 (peak gain 3 places up)

Italy : III #39 / Wonderland #36 (peak gain 3 places up)

Japan : III #182 / Wonderland #168 (peak gain 14 places up)

Netherlands : III #64 / Wonderland #48 (peak gain 16 places up)

Scotland : III #2 / Wonderland #2 (peak equal)

Spain : III #54 / Wonderland #18 (peak gain 36 places up)

South Korea : III #18 / Wonderland (DNC top 100)

Switzerland : III #59 / Wonderland #28 (peak gain 31 places up)

Taiwan : III #6 / Wonderland (DNC top 20)

UK : III #1 / Wonderland #2 (peak drop 1 place down)

 

My own thoughts on the album is I much prefer it to III. I also think the fact they are touring the world and doing promo outside Europe is also helping and long overdue. We know that they are going to Australia, New Zealand and Argentina. However having looked on social media there are some common nations that come through with quite strong TT fanbases.

Looking at the carpool comments and nationalities as well as other social media I'd say they are long due in Canada, Brazil, South Africa and Chile (maybe do a gig when they go to Argentina) based on the multiple responses.

 

It's nice obviously that they still chart in Japan but they really have fallen away there compared to other nations even Progress came in at #145 there. Beautiful World went to #40 in Japan but that is because they went and did promo in Taiwan/Japan in early 2007. In Taiwan BW went to #1 off back of this promo for two weeks however NF - Ultimate Collection went to #9 a year earlier when released in 2005 so they didn't have to make up as much groundwork as they did for Japan.

I really hope over coming weeks the album goes top 20 in Taiwan as would be a shame to break chart run since reunion. NF (#9), BW (#1), TC (#16), Progress (#6), III (#6).

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With the main promo coming next weekend rather than during the coming week will we see a weird chart run as in a number 2 debut drop to 6 or 7 and then back up to number 2 following the itv show. Hopefully they can hold top 3 this coming week and in an ideal world overtake Ed if the show really boosts them.

 

Im a bit peeved off they have such great sales and will only be number 2 when we see so many albums getting a number 1 credit on 12-15 thousand sales.

 

I really hope that the GN and Audience With promo somehow manages to snag them the #1. However I have a feels no their back catalogue will benefit more than the new album - I can see the 'Ultimate Collection' getting a healthy boost after the audience show.

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Thanks Nirvana! So on paper it looks good, albeit the sales outside of Q4 will be lower. I'm still hoping they can do it after the audience with.

 

#2 in the UK. Officially. Although, Never Forget rebounds to #25 and goes 8X platinum!

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I welcome seeing Wonderland chart higher in so many territories than III. This is a positive start.

 

Never Forget making 8 times platinum this week is just wonderful, that is sales of over 2.4 million.

These figures though show that they for whatever reason do not have the faithful fanbase anywhere like in the UK. A place 40 means 4,000 sold copies and less...UK sales are great especially without hit single
Yeah I agree top 40 is a good fanbase for an older act so the nations where all post reunion albums have gone top 40 are UK, Ireland, Germany, Denmark, Italy and Taiwan normally top 10 so disappointed it's initially missed top 20 there.

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There is no doubt their popularity has declined in terms of album sales, they are still doing very well all things considered. I still think they should reconsider their music, they are still very popular but i think most of us are in agreeance that they need to release a single that is very Take That, a good strong ballad, i know Wonderland hasnt much if any single potential buy beyond that its something i think they need to do for their next album.

I think their latest chart-debuts are pretty fantastic in Europe and worldwide.

 

#2 - United Kingdom

#3 - Ireland

#19 - Germany

#28 - Australia

#36 - Italy

#43 - Belgium (F)

#48 - Netherlands

#75 - Belgium (W)

#168 - Japan

 

I am very pleased with the German ranking. One could assume a solid 3,5k from Germany in week 1.

 

I am very curious about Austria, Switzerland, France, Spain, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and other EU markets.

 

BTW is anyone else hardcorely in LOVE with "Come on Love"? I worship right now.

 

My final verdict on Wonderland 9 days into the era is that I believe it it is slightly better than the outstanding III album.

 

Hi there the album hasn't charted in the Norwegian top 40 or the top 60 in Sweden on opening week. For both these nations TT reunion albums stand as:

 

Norway

 

Beautiful World: #34

The Circus: #38

Progress: #25

 

Sweden

 

Beautiful World: #40

The Circus: #25

Progress: #7

 

Both these neighbouring Scandinavian countries haven't charted III or Wonderland (as yet) within published national charts.

 

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I'm intrigued to see if it's made any dent in the top 100 US albums after the Late Late Show...

Yes me too they'll come out tomorrow and published Wednesday. I think it was only a digital release however so that may hamper them a little in the States as again part of their audience likes physical albums. I don't think it would be top 100 if it charts more likely 160 - 200 for 'smaller loyal fan' acts generally.

It'll be great if it charts in Canada also as they did have moderate success singles and albums in Canada during the 90's and one top 40 single in Patience in 2007 Canada.

Touch wood the album has done well in Denmark also as that is a major TT market however the chart providers are being a bit slow aside from the nations who have already updated their charts considering most are all synced on a Friday now but we'll wait and see.

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I'm intrigued to see if it's made any dent in the top 100 US albums after the Late Late Show...

 

I doubt they will chart. It's the kind of show that doesn't have hugh attraction (it's on every night) and Giants isn't a killer song. They may gain some new fans but not gonna set anything on fire.

 

 

I am really anxious to see the mid chart information this week to see how Wonderland is performing.
10.000 copies so far - pretty decent, imo.

Look like I'm wrong about they'd not get No. 1 if they release this week. Oh well, life can't always get your way.

 

I feel that they are more concentrated on promoting the musical than this album.

I hope the musical is a success and doesn't go the way of 'Viva Forever' it seems to be heading in the right direction. When is Graham Norton again? I know an Audience with is this weekend I believe.

Number 4 and 10,321 sold, top 4 based on the mid week chart information looks safe for this week. This puts the album in a good position to do well on week 3 after the audience with is aired.

 

The Ultimate Collection is number 20 which should indicate it will remain top 40 this week.

 

Giants currently sits at number 89, it would be wonderful if it can stay top 100 this week and with some luck the audience with will keep it in next week too.

Top 4 on week 2 is good and sales are respectable. I think we all have our hopes pinned on the itv show connecting with the public which will hopefully get sales going next week.

 

The Ultimate collection is also holding up good, its actually number 29 though and not number 20! hopefully we will see it get another 3,000 sales this week.

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