Joel Adams is signed to an indie label which explains why it wasn't send to radio I guess, a shame really as it could've been huge. Still, silver certified *.*

Who are MiC LOWRY sleeping with to get position 1 on the Hot Hits UK playlist? It's a great record but it's ridiculous how much influence this playlist is having on the charts. How else would that Joel Adams record have spent 21 weeks on the chart? I notice it's finally fallen off the chart now it's come off that playlist. And it's never even been serviced to UK radio - so what was that all about?!

 

That is solid gold proof that record companies use streaming to manipulate the chart just as much as before, if not even moreso.

 

I'm glad Tom Zanetti has cracked the top 50, and hoping this means that 'Black Beatles' thing won't actually make #1 officially (at any point).

You Want Me looking like it's gonna be massive then ─ nearly top 20 on iTunes as well :dance:

 

I'm pleased by this too!!

I really don't get this Tom Zanetti thing, the rapping is awful and the production is really basic? Sadly it's looking to be big...

Go on Adele! It would be great to see her get another top 40 hit from this album - would be very impressive considering how much the album has sold!

Joel Adams is signed to an indie label which explains why it wasn't send to radio I guess, a shame really as it could've been huge. Still, silver certified *.*

 

There's no reason why they couldn't have serviced it to radio. What was the point of paying for it to be on Spotify playlist but then not give it that extra push to become a real hit?

 

And the fact it has been certified silver based largely on passive playlist plays is ridiculous.

I like You Want Me, but if Tom Zanetti wasn't from Leeds I might have a different opinion on it

1 Rockabye (455K)

2 Black Beatles (445K)

Oh dear. I was hoping for Rae Sremmurd to stay at the top and get their first official #1

Clean Bandit are well ahead on sales so even if they were #1 on Spotify they'd have to have a considerable lead to challenge for the official #1. Seems very unlikely it'll happen now but they are #1 in the US by miles and probably getting lots of money so I'm sure they are happy.

I really don't get this Tom Zanetti thing, the rapping is awful and the production is really basic? Sadly it's looking to be big...

 

I'm with you on this, Can you even call that rapping? :unsure: I don't think it will be that "big" maybe a top 10 which is bad enough.

The rapping is definitely secondary to the production on that Tom Zanetti track, which is ironic because the producer isn't even officially credited :no:

 

I hope it's a hit anyway.

There's no reason why they couldn't have serviced it to radio. What was the point of paying for it to be on Spotify playlist but then not give it that extra push to become a real hit?

 

And the fact it has been certified silver based largely on passive playlist plays is ridiculous.

Oh I agree that there's no reason why but I expect the fact he's on a tiny indie label that isn't based in the UK probably explains why they haven't. It's very strange anyway, just a few radio plays could've given it enough of a sales boost to go top 40!

 

I think the song needs some credit for its popularity though. it's evidently quite popular among those who have heard it or it wouldn't have stuck around for quite so long, many songs have come and gone from the Spotify top 50 during its stay there. The playlists have been a huge help of course but if the song wasn't popular, people would likely skip it or just not listen and it wouldn't have done quite this well!

The rapping is definitely secondary to the production on that Tom Zanetti track, which is ironic because the producer isn't even officially credited :no:

 

I hope it's a hit anyway.

 

Is Tom Zanetti not the producer? :unsure: As with 'Darlin'?

Oh I agree that there's no reason why but I expect the fact he's on a tiny indie label that isn't based in the UK probably explains why they haven't. It's very strange anyway, just a few radio plays could've given it enough of a sales boost to go top 40!

 

I think the song needs some credit for its popularity though. it's evidently quite popular among those who have heard it or it wouldn't have stuck around for quite so long, many songs have come and gone from the Spotify top 50 during its stay there. The playlists have been a huge help of course but if the song wasn't popular, people would likely skip it or just not listen and it wouldn't have done quite this well!

 

Am I right in thinking if you listen past 30 seconds it counts as a stream? So I'm inclined to think a huge chunk of it has been from automatic default playlist plays.

Am I right in thinking if you listen past 30 seconds it counts as a stream? So I'm inclined to think a huge chunk of it has been from automatic default playlist plays.

 

And the fact its weekly streams have been more or less the same every week for 20 weeks as well

It's hard to gauge songs like "Please Don't Go" without some sort of listener survey. What I've noticed is that a lot of these songs that tend to get egregious amounts of streams via playlists is that they're often extremely innocuous, often in the mold of the hits of today without the charisma to go all the way to the top. If people are using these playlists, they may well be listening in the background and will only skip if something abrasive comes on, which "Please Don't Go", "Capsize", "Fresh Eyes" etc are not. Also if I recall correctly, free listeners on mobile devices are forced to use shuffle, and only get a very limited number of skips, so often these playlists net a guaranteed baseline of plays no matter where on the playlist they are. Someone should put a Merzbow song on all the playlists as an experiment :P

Is Tom Zanetti not the producer? :unsure: As with 'Darlin'?

 

Yeah he produces his own music, he should perhaps leave the rapping to someone else though :lol:

It's hard to gauge songs like "Please Don't Go" without some sort of listener survey. What I've noticed is that a lot of these songs that tend to get egregious amounts of streams via playlists is that they're often extremely innocuous, often in the mold of the hits of today without the charisma to go all the way to the top. If people are using these playlists, they may well be listening in the background and will only skip if something abrasive comes on, which "Please Don't Go", "Capsize", "Fresh Eyes" etc are not. Also if I recall correctly, free listeners on mobile devices are forced to use shuffle, and only get a very limited number of skips, so often these playlists net a guaranteed baseline of plays no matter where on the playlist they are. Someone should put a Merzbow song on all the playlists as an experiment :P

 

We'll see an even more extreme version of this at Christmas when the top 200 is flooded on Xmas Eve/Day with completely bizarre entries. Last year I recall seeing Alphabeat's Xmas song and Celine Dion's cover of Happy Xmas (War Is Over), amongst others, purely because they were on a prominent festive playlist.

 

And, as you say, free listeners are not going to find these songs offensive enough to use up one of their skips, so will just leave them playing (and many paying listeners won't bother to skip either, I mean who the hell wants to get up from the dinner table just to change a song!). It's all very bizarre, but I don't see any way of rectifying the issue because Spotify users would be up in arms if curated playlists suddenly disappeared, as many just can't be bothered to make their own or just want to hear the hits etc...

 

I do wish the payola would stop but manipulation like this is hardly anything new, record companies have just had to find a new way of getting around things to make money and get their artists' songs into the charts.

Edited November 20, 20168 yr by gooddelta

I really think a stream should only be counted if at least 90% of the song is played. I really don't like this whole 30 seconds thing!

Yeah he produces his own music, he should perhaps leave the rapping to someone else though :lol:

I think K.O Kane is the producer. A lot of his tracks on SoundCloud are credited to Tom Zanetti & K.O Kane anyway