Just to be clear. I don't view trump as Hitler. I view him as a confirmed fan of Hitler: source his ex wife and consistent support of Nazis. Racist. Sexist. Sexual predator accusations. Anti gay legislation. Anti poor legislation. Pro billionaire legislation. Pro Russian investigation ongoing.

 

What does that say about those who voted for him?

What does that say about those who voted for him?

One of three choices:

 

A.) they’re a Nazi (which is right about 60-70% of the time)

B.) they’re a supporter of Nazis

C.) they simply don’t care about anything, especially a good 85% of now disenfranchised Americans

 

I mean, hell, 95% of them believe the Second Amendment is more important than the first. THE FIRST.

One of three choices:

 

A.) they’re a Nazi (which is right about 60-70% of the time)

B.) they’re a supporter of Nazis

C.) they simply don’t care about anything, especially a good 85% of now disenfranchised Americans

 

I mean, hell, 95% of them believe the Second Amendment is more important than the first. THE FIRST.

 

ISTM you're taking this Nazi analogy a little too literally.

 

Most Trump voters are probably just conservative Christians, using their vote to protest against the ever more pervasive power of the Left over the media. :unsure:

 

Also, I don't think the number of an Amendment is any indication of its intended priority.

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ISTM you're taking this Nazi analogy a little too literally.

 

Most Trump voters are probably just conservative Christians, using their vote to protest against the ever more pervasive power of the Left over the media. :unsure:

 

Also, I don't think the number of an Amendment is any indication of its intended priority.

There was LITERALLY a violent riot that involved Neo-Nazis a couple months ago. Saying that this is an analogy is inaccurate because they’re still LIVING AMONG US.

It depends if you consider two days to be a long time. Nonetheless, it led to one of the most bizarre episodes of an already bizarre campaign, especially given that 4 days after he disavowed him, he claimed to have never heard of him, despite leaving the Reform Party back in 2000 because the same fellow had infiltrated that party.

When it’s the grand master of the KKK, 30 mins to disavow that f***er is a long time. 2 days is a lifetime

There was LITERALLY a violent riot that involved Neo-Nazis a couple months ago. Saying that this is an analogy is inaccurate because they’re still LIVING AMONG US.

 

My gripe was against your estimation of the % of Trump supporters who are neo-nazis, not that they don't exist at all.

 

Most people would not equate mere resistance to political correctness as a sign of someone being a 'secret Hitler-lover'. Also, they don't need to be told by the Left that being prejudiced is wrong, and indeed actively resent being patronised that way.

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It depends if you consider two days to be a long time. Nonetheless, it led to one of the most bizarre episodes of an already bizarre campaign, especially given that 4 days after he disavowed him, he claimed to have never heard of him, despite leaving the Reform Party back in 2000 because the same fellow had infiltrated that party.

I would consider two days to be a long time in this case, yes. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would have rejected DUke's endorsement within hours.

It depends if you consider two days to be a long time. Nonetheless, it led to one of the most bizarre episodes of an already bizarre campaign, especially given that 4 days after he disavowed him, he claimed to have never heard of him, despite leaving the Reform Party back in 2000 because the same fellow had infiltrated that party.

 

Looking back at my very late night post with fresh eyes, I realise that I didn't make it clear that I did feel that he took too long to unequivocally condemn Duke, so consider this an addendum to that post.

My gripe was against your estimation of the % of Trump supporters who are neo-nazis, not that they don't exist at all.

 

Most people would not equate mere resistance to political correctness as a sign of someone being a 'secret Hitler-lover'. Also, they don't need to be told by the Left that being prejudiced is wrong, and indeed actively resent being patronised that way.

 

Trump has been supported by Fox and Breitbart, both peddlers of lies and with links to Putin and/or wikileaks (who are fed propaganda by Putin). The evil son of a bithch running Breitbart has said he wants to destroy the American system and he doesn't care who he hurts to do so, ESPECIALLY blacks, gays, Muslims, latinos....

 

They have supported and been involved in trumps policies, campaign and in the White House.

 

Arguing about the numbers of people who are and aren't Nazis among the voting public is irrelevant when the facts are he supports racist organisations, gets money from them, has racist policies (currently rounding up Latinos en masse, refusing to support equality - THE CENTRAL CORE OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE IS THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATE EQUAL. Without that there is no United States Of America, it's just another vaguely democratic country with an inflated sense of importance and warped values where poor people are left to die (this is happening daily unreported because individuals aren't news).

 

Plus, people are dumb as f*** and believe any old crap they are told when they are desperate. That they have voted in someone who will make them even poorer and weaker is of no comfort whatsoever. The human race recycles this old plot on an ongoing basis, thinking any change is better than no change - not understanding that the reason they are f***ed over in the first place is the rich people with power, or dumb people with power, or both. Obama tried to help, but the Republicans destroying as much as they can right now were the ones blocking progressive legislation for the last 8 years, and willing to continue to do so even if it means collaborating with Russians (see ongoing court cases which will dominate the media there for the next year or two).

 

So, no this is not about PC at all, you just don't grasp the seriousness of the threat going on to the whole American way of life and idealised democratic self-belief. Watergate sent America into political shock. That was a piss in the ocean compared to Trumpgate.

Trump has been supported by Fox and Breitbart, both peddlers of lies and with links to Putin and/or wikileaks (who are fed propaganda by Putin). The evil son of a bithch running Breitbart has said he wants to destroy the American system and he doesn't care who he hurts to do so, ESPECIALLY blacks, gays, Muslims, latinos....

 

They have supported and been involved in trumps policies, campaign and in the White House.

 

Arguing about the numbers of people who are and aren't Nazis among the voting public is irrelevant when the facts are he supports racist organisations, gets money from them, has racist policies (currently rounding up Latinos en masse, refusing to support equality - THE CENTRAL CORE OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE IS THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATE EQUAL.

 

The one written by people who considered blacks 'untermensch', you mean?

The one written by people who considered blacks 'untermensch', you mean?

 

Yes that one. Whatever slave-owning rich people who wrote it actually believed at the time, it became to be taken literally as a source of national pride, not least errr having a Civil War over it.

 

PS the openly racist side lost.....

Yes that one. Whatever slave-owning rich people who wrote it actually believed at the time, it became to be taken literally as a source of national pride, not least errr having a Civil War over it.

 

PS the openly racist side lost.....

 

That's not the impression I ge,t from all the b1tching about Trump I read here... :rolleyes:

That's not the impression I ge,t from all the b1tching about Trump I read here... :rolleyes:

 

errr no logic to your statement. It's not bitching BTW, it's a clear warning of a dangerous unhinged racist, nazi-supporting egotist spoilt rich billionaire who raped his wife because she recommended a bad hairdresser.

 

Perhaps you don't see those as serious character flaws in a leader of the free world, and perhaps things like becoming a traitor to get elected is fine as long as you piss off liberals. Anything is fine as long as you can upset a few smug liberals, eh? It's only people's lives and the future of democracy what does that matter in comparison to the important thing, which is to get rid of that nasty PC equality crap. Who needs equality and reason, eh?!

errr no logic to your statement. It's not bitching BTW, it's a clear warning of a dangerous unhinged racist, nazi-supporting egotist spoilt rich billionaire who raped his wife because she recommended a bad hairdresser.

 

The only part of that which is unequivocally true is the billionaire bit.

 

Perhaps you don't see those as serious character flaws in a leader of the free world, and perhaps things like becoming a traitor to get elected is fine as long as you piss off liberals. Anything is fine as long as you can upset a few smug liberals, eh? It's only people's lives and the future of democracy what does that matter in comparison to the important thing, which is to get rid of that nasty PC equality crap. Who needs equality and reason, eh?!

 

Hyperbole again. Well, two can play at that game!

 

I regard political correctness as akin to Orwellian 'Newspeak' which sought to eliminate opposition by changing the language to make dissenting opinions impossible to express.

I mean... when the main 'dissenting opinion' against what you call political correctness is the President of the United States, you can't really claim to be an underdog any more.

 

This thread hasn't been updated in a few months, but if you wanted proof that Trump is a wannabe fascist dictator:

 

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/5...amp;sh=4196c529

errr no logic to your statement. It's not bitching BTW, it's a clear warning of a dangerous unhinged racist, nazi-supporting egotist spoilt rich billionaire who raped his wife because she recommended a bad hairdresser.

 

Perhaps you don't see those as serious character flaws in a leader of the free world, and perhaps things like becoming a traitor to get elected is fine as long as you piss off liberals. Anything is fine as long as you can upset a few smug liberals, eh? It's only people's lives and the future of democracy what does that matter in comparison to the important thing, which is to get rid of that nasty PC equality crap. Who needs equality and reason, eh?!

 

Everything I put on threads about Trump is verifiable fact because I don't want to get sued.

 

His wife said he raped her following a strop about his hair.

 

His wife said he re-read Hitler's book constantly.

 

He has supported the KKK and Nazi parties in murders

 

He has called for the death penalty for 5 innocent young black men EVEN AFTER HE KNEW THEY WERE INNOCENT.

 

H e has gone bankrupt many times, been in hundreds of court cases (lost), and is in many current sex court claims.

 

Feel free to find proof refuting any of these things, or continue to stick your head in the sand because the anti-PC brigade are so desperate to get rid of equality that they will back dictators, sex attackers (self confessed), Putin, Wikileaks, anti-equal-rights legislation and legislation that attacks the very people they claim to care about.

 

Sadly, you won't be able to, because it's all true - not that daily mail readers would know, as the billionaire foreign-living (for tax purposes) owner of the Mail and his lackeys are part of the campaign....

 

Hugs and kisses.

Feel free to find proof refuting any of these things, or continue to stick your head in the sand because the anti-PC brigade are so desperate to get rid of equality

 

PC is the *enemy* of equality - that's why it need to be resisted. It is intolerance masquerading as tolerance.

 

Just watch what happens when a public figure makes a non-PC remark, even accidentally : social media goes into overdrive to castigate them - that is intolerance personified!

PC is the *enemy* of equality - that's why it need to be resisted. It is intolerance masquerading as tolerance.

 

Just watch what happens when a public figure makes a non-PC remark, even accidentally : social media goes into overdrive to castigate them - that is intolerance personified!

And racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/ableism, etc etc isnt’???

 

While I do agree with you that PC culture is generally toxic and full of overreactions, there’s a little thing called manners that I think all people should have, especially public fivures.

 

Maybe you should use them sometime.

And racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/ableism, etc etc isnt’???

 

I never said they *weren't* examples of intolerance (though I've never even heard of 'ableism' :huh: ).

 

What I object to is when some random group invents an '-ism' for themselves, and claims it entitles them to special treatment/protection from criticism.

 

Come to think of it, I've just declared Leavers a 'protected minority' (well we are on this forum, anyway), and Leaver-ism now makes us immune from criticism.... :lol:

 

While I do agree with you that PC culture is generally toxic and full of overreactions, there’s a little thing called manners that I think all people should have, especially public fivures.

 

Maybe you should use them sometime.

 

Excuse me? I may post controversial opinions, but I always endeavour to do so in a polite way. I only resort to rudeness in retaliation.

 

As for manners, they are something that should be taught by parents, not enforced by law.

 

I never said they *weren't* examples of intolerance (though I've never even heard of 'ableism' :huh: ).

 

What I object to is when some random group invents an '-ism' for themselves, and claims it entitles them to special treatment/protection from criticism.

 

Come to think of it, I've just declared Leavers a 'protected minority' (well we are on this forum, anyway), and Leaver-ism now makes us immune from criticism.... :lol:

You can really tell that you've never faced any actual oppression or discrimination in your life.

 

I see you haven't bothered to comment on the link I posted before - any thoughts?