Why? They hadn't been an active group for 7 years at that point. Did they have some kind of superiority over whether or not Geri could return? They were all ex Spice Girls by then and had been for the best part of a decade. Your "Madame Horner" line pretty much says it all of course.

 

You are right. Geri is just as important as the others. The Spice Girls is 5. Although, as voodoo says, look at Westlife! It’s not like they had to, they could have said “you’re not welcome anymore!” - what do you think it’s going to happen with Little Mix and Blackfish Queen?

 

That said, yes, I was just joking because as a queer fan I’m still sad about her backing up the Tories, but this is another story.

 

Going back to the topic, I find that replacement thing really odd and offensive. I hope Melanie clarifies that in her book.

 

 

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^ Well, it shouldn't have been taken for granted. Westlife didn't accept Brian back when they reunited.

 

That was because none of them liked him more than him being the one who’d left first.

If what spiceboy says is true (I mean, if the source told the truth), I’d love to see some people here put the same energy to show disappointment the same way they do whenever Melanie C does something they don’t like.

 

I’ll try to find the interview, but this is not the first time Mel has taken the blame instead of bad mouthing or calling out her friends. In that interview she basically states that whenever a reunion failed to happen, she was considered the only stumbling block, but there were actually others that were also against or not available- they simply played the “safe card” and never make it public.

 

Now - if that replacement thing is true, this shows some of them are just not as genuine as they want to appear. I really do hope the idea of the replacement is not Madame Horner idea. She should be thankful the other girls didn’t replace her and invite her back when they reunited in 2007. The audacity.

 

Up until recently Mel C was more often than not the stumbling block. New music, unreleased tracks, touring as a 4 piece she was against it all. Even in 2018 when the talks between the 5 broke down it was Mel C who Geri had to take the offer of doing Wembley to and ask one last time about doing it as a 4 piece.

 

Up until recently Mel C was more often than not the stumbling block. New music, unreleased tracks, touring as a 4 piece she was against it all. Even in 2018 when the talks between the 5 broke down it was Mel C who Geri had to take the offer of doing Wembley to and ask one last time about doing it as a 4 piece.

 

Right. But - as I said before - if that replacement-related fall out is true, it shows they we shouldn’t be so quick to judge her as we know only one part of the truth. She acts according to her values, don’t you think?

Up until recently Mel C was more often than not the stumbling block. New music, unreleased tracks, touring as a 4 piece she was against it all. Even in 2018 when the talks between the 5 broke down it was Mel C who Geri had to take the offer of doing Wembley to and ask one last time about doing it as a 4 piece.

 

Yeah this. I am thankful that Melanie walked out of the X-Factor style TV show, but lets not forget that between 1999-2018 she was consistently a stumbling block to the group, specially with new music (which is my biggest gripe).

 

They are all at fault here, of course though.

Yeah this. I am thankful that Melanie walked out of the X-Factor style TV show, but lets not forget that between 1999-2018 she was consistently a stumbling block to the group, specially with new music (which is my biggest gripe).

 

They are all at fault here, of course though.

 

She wasn’t. She was busy with her passion, making music and with her live band. What she likes to do.

And as a fan I don’t think why I should expect anything different than that. She’s a free person, not a Spice robot. If she says no, she has the rights to do it. The same way Geri left, Mel B thought it was ok to refuse the Live Aid concert, Victoria totally distancing herself, and Emma.. who knows..

She wasn’t. She was busy with her passion, making music and with her live band. What she likes to do.

And as a fan I don’t think why I should expect anything different than that. She’s a free person, not a Spice robot. If she says no, she has the rights to do it. The same way Geri left, Mel B thought it was ok to refuse the Live Aid concert, Victoria totally distancing herself, and Emma.. who knows..

 

I didnt say she wasnt free to make decisions that she thinks are best. That still doesnt mean she wasnt the stumbling block, when we know she was and has been for so long.

I didnt say she wasnt free to make decisions that she thinks are best. That still doesnt mean she wasnt the stumbling block, when we know she was and has been for so long.

 

But maybe she wasn’t a stumbling block, she was only someone who had their reasons to say no.

Do you think we know all the truth behind their relationships? Don’t forget there was a time where they weren’t in speaking terms, Melanie addresses that in many interviews.

 

I don’t have high expectations for the book in terms of revelations, but I’d live for that if she threw some shade and gave some real truth (like the supposedly real talk about the replacement thing).

I get that you are first and foremost a Melanie C fan, but the choices she made (which she is free to do of course) means she was *still* the main stumbling block throughout the years.

 

The last few years have changed that (thanks to her management!!!) but still, that doesnt change 20 years of this.

I get that you are first and foremost a Melanie C fan, but the choices she made (which she is free to do of course) means she was *still* the main stumbling block throughout the years.

 

The last few years have changed that (thanks to her management!!!) but still, that doesnt change 20 years of this.

 

You right. The same way Victoria is now. So what? It’s their life. They don’t owe us anything.

And again, we only know one small part of the story.

 

The so-called friendship wasn’t always like that. At some point there was one of them that used to hide behind the sofas of a club in London when she was told one of the other girls was around. And that’s just one of the examples. Many, many things we are not aware of..

 

(and by the way, nope, I’m not a blind fan - I’ve always been a Scary Spice and I fell in love with Melanie C talent and integrity but she doesn’t pay my bills, hun :P )

^ Well, it shouldn't have been taken for granted. Westlife didn't accept Brian back when they reunited.

 

 

I mean this is a totally different scenario, Westlife continued as a band for many years after Brian left (I've just checked they've released 10 albums without him!! wow), they were more of a fourpiece than a fivepiece in the end. While the girls released 2 singles and 1 album without Geri. The vast majority was with her.

 

Nobody cared about Brian returning while most people wanted Geri to return, the public were far more invested in the girls as personalities than they ever have been with Westlife.

I get that you are first and foremost a Melanie C fan, but the choices she made (which she is free to do of course) means she was *still* the main stumbling block throughout the years.

 

The last few years have changed that (thanks to her management!!!) but still, that doesnt change 20 years of this.

 

 

I think what John is saying is that Mel gets alot of stick for being the stumbling block (as in she did in 2016) when fans don't know all the details behind the scenes. For example we didn't know in the 90's that Mel B bullied her at times (which Mel B herself admitted in her first autobiography and in fact Melanie C herself addressed in 2016) which possibly made her unwilling to continue to work with the group if she could do it on her own. Then he mentioned about her following her passions for live performing etc which (again according to Mel B) Victoria and Emma were not up for in the early 2000s so perhaps this put her off continuing work with them if they wouldn't do that. In 2016 they were pressuring her to do a show to replace Victoria which she refused to do and ended up refusing to reunite as a four piece because of this.... We did not know any of these things at the time, there may be far more behind the scenes than just her not wanting to make music as a spice girl.

 

To be fair to Mr X though John Melanie herself has said that she has been a stumbling block and she is very reluctant to do more music as a group so...

I think what John is saying is that Mel gets alot of stick for being the stumbling block (as in she did in 2016) when fans don't know all the details behind the scenes. as a group so...

 

This! Personally I also think it was fair she didn’t want to make new music when she worked hard to get some credibility as a solo artist. Bar Mel B in dancing and Emma in singing, the others are absolutely not able to deliver a song, let alone a full album.

 

Geri, for example, did promote her first record with only lip-sync performances. Something that Melanie didn’t do, even if she lacked experience. I personally think she preferred her small venues and top40 albums than living a live under constant scrutiny - and we all know what the media did to her.

This! Personally I also think it was fair she didn’t want to make new music when she worked hard to get some credibility as a solo artist. Bar Mel B in dancing and Emma in singing, the others are absolutely not able to deliver a song, let alone a full album.

 

Geri, for example, did promote her first record with only lip-sync performances. Something that Melanie didn’t do, even if she lacked experience. I personally think she preferred her small venues and top40 albums than living a live under constant scrutiny - and we all know what the media did to her.

 

 

That's your opinion and not one I agree with personally, we really don't need to drag down the other girls in order to try and make Melanie look better, I don't think she would think much of it herself tbh.

I feel like Mel C fans really over-estimate her as a solo artist. She is still incredibly niche and top producers, radio stations wouldn't go near her. Her solo music career loses money.

 

She is basically in the position where her hobbie she can finance to be a career. Fair play to her she enjoys it but she isn't looked on by the public as some credible artist, neither is she by the industry. Mention Mel C to anyone and they think Spice Girls or at best ITTY, they would be stunned to even know she has released 8 albums.

I feel like Mel C fans really over-estimate her as a solo artist. She is still incredibly niche and top producers, radio stations wouldn't go near her. Her solo music career loses money.

 

She is basically in the position where her hobbie she can finance to be a career. Fair play to her she enjoys it but she isn't looked on by the public as some credible artist, neither is she by the industry. Mention Mel C to anyone and they think Spice Girls or at best ITTY, they would be stunned to even know she has released 8 albums.

Your bitterness has raised its ugly head again.

 

Thank you for your "concern", but she is doing more than fine. She is constantly booked and performing non stop. To say it is her "hobby" is insulting and disrespectful.

 

You certainly wouldn't say it about her peers, like Sophie Ellis and Natalie Imbruglia, to name just a few.

Your bitterness has raised its ugly head again.

 

Thank you for your "concern", but she is doing more than fine. She is constantly booked and performing non stop. To say it is her "hobby" is insulting and disrespectful.

 

You certainly wouldn't say it about her peers, like Sophie Ellis and Natalie Imbruglia, to name just a few.

 

I would say both of those artists are bigger music names (solo wise) than Mel C (obviously Mel is the bigger name overall being a Spice Girl though).

 

But that is the point you are comparing her to Sophie and Natalie who are very niche artists these days. That need to do talent show judging or Strictly ect as the music aint making enough money.

 

I wouldn't call any of them exactly credible, just remembered for 2 or 3 songs from 15 to 20 years ago which they get booked because of, like Mel C.

 

I feel like Mel C fans really over-estimate her as a solo artist. She is still incredibly niche and top producers, radio stations wouldn't go near her. Her solo music career loses money.

 

She is basically in the position where her hobbie she can finance to be a career. Fair play to her she enjoys it but she isn't looked on by the public as some credible artist, neither is she by the industry. Mention Mel C to anyone and they think Spice Girls or at best ITTY, they would be stunned to even know she has released 8 albums.

 

 

I think most fans are very aware she is very niche. Also what radio will go near a women over 40? She gets consistent BBC Radio 2 support which is more than can be said for many of her peers from the era she comes from (both as a solo and a spice girl).

 

There is "enough" respect for her as a name to be booked at Glastonbury, albeit in a DJ slot but then also as a guest on the main stage - which was very positively covered by media and twitter etc. Of course she is never going to command the respect that so called "proper" musicians get but she certainly gets more than any of the other girls do within the industry and more than many other female pop stars of her era.

 

I agree there are some fans who overestimate her but then there are some fans who really put her down constantly and are far harder on her than they are on their own favourite girl...

 

 

I think most fans are very aware she is very niche. Also what radio will go near a women over 40? She gets consistent BBC Radio 2 support which is more than can be said for many of her peers from the era she comes from (both as a solo and a spice girl).

 

There is "enough" respect for her as a name to be booked at Glastonbury, albeit in a DJ slot but then also as a guest on the main stage - which was very positively covered by media and twitter etc. Of course she is never going to command the respect that so called "proper" musicians get but she certainly gets more than any of the other girls do within the industry and more than many other female pop stars of her era.

 

I agree there are some fans who overestimate her but then there are some fans who really put her down constantly and are far harder on her than they are on their own favourite girl...

 

But ask yourself which song did she sing as a guest on the main stage? What song did she sing with Chris Martin a few months ago. She actually gets more credibility as being a Spice girl these days than as a solo artist.

 

I love Mel C (and all the girls) but at this point I find most of their solo careers a bit embarrassing than anything. Some of the festivals Mel C does with 2 of Attomic kitten or Emma's baby book or Mel B on another panel show next to an Only way is Essex D-lister, it is all so cringe. Of course they need to earn money but I'm realistic enough to know all their solo careers are low rent whether that be playing 'car fest' festivals or releasing baby books, none of it is credible or is different to any C-list artist or person these days.

 

It is just funny how because Mel C is still related to music she is seen as credible by her fans. She is still playing festivals with loads of wash up 90s bands and artists or basically a warm up act. Her albums are still out the chart after 1 week. It is just as low rent as Mel B being a judge on The masked singer, just in music not tv or radio or nappies.

I agree there are some fans who overestimate her but then there are some fans who really put her down constantly and are far harder on her than they are on their own favourite girl...

 

 

Im guilty of this and Im sorry!