How about calling our judges (and legal system) and MP's (elected by us) "Enemies Of The People" and encouraging every nutter to murder yet another one

 

I don't recall the latter part?

 

- because they, the Lord God Daily Mail, don't agree with democracy and the British Constitution as it is written.

Sometimes *I* don't - all that proves is that I have free will

 

 

 

As for the Daily Mail, probably the most known example in recent years was the suicide of Lucy Meadows which I think was as a direct consequence of a hate-inciting transphobic article they published in 2013.

 

Even though the Guardian quotes 'In a note she left, she made no mention of press intrusion, citing instead her debts, a number of bereavements including the death of her parents, and her stressful job as a primary school teacher.'?

Even though the Guardian quotes 'In a note she left, she made no mention of press intrusion, citing instead her debts, a number of bereavements including the death of her parents, and her stressful job as a primary school teacher.'?

 

Yes, the coroner singled out the Daily Mail - same article:

 

Michael Singleton, coroner for Blackburn, Hyndburn and Rossendale, singled out the Daily Mail as he accused the paper of "ridicule and humiliation" and a "character assassination" of Lucy Meadows, 32, who took her own life in March.

A paper that attacks democratic institutions and riles up hate to the point that there was a terror attack on an MP during the referendum is just vile and not fit for a democracy.

In a surprise twist, Nigel Farage has said that he is warming to the idea of a 2nd referendum on Europe.

 

The charitable interpretation is that he recognises how divisive the Referendum campaign was, and with such a narrow margin of victory, he wants a re-run in the hope that the result will be a more resounding "Leave" this time around in order to firmly put a red line under the issue.

 

The less charitable interpretation is that Nigel Farage's profile has dipped so much since the campaign that he hopes a re-run will allow him to take centre stage in the national picture again, as leader of the "Leave" side.

 

An even less charitable interpretation is that it's finally dawned on him that the gravy train he's enjoyed as an MEP is coming to a grinding halt, and would very much like to get the train back on its tracks.

 

The least charitable interpretation is that there's a major story about Farage on the verge of breaking, and he's trying to distract us from it.

Not so much a U turn as a return to what he said halfway through the vote night: that 52 for Remain was not enough and there needed to be a second vote, before hastily changing his mind and starting the Newspeak brainwashing cry of, WERRRL ERRFF THERRR PERRRPLERRRR :theresa:

 

He knows Brexit is a shitstorm. He has more chance of winning a vote now before people experience it, thus delaying our generation from voting us back in soon enough, than once its terms are known.

I think all of the above farage reasons are correct.

 

Or else he's trying to shag a remainer.

Or couldn't get a German passport, like he tried the day after the vote :kink:

An alternative interpretation is that he has realised the amount of damage he could be about to inflict on the country, and is desperately looking for a way out.

No, he was well aware. It was always a vanity project. The elite like him only care for their own.

A paper that attacks democratic institutions and riles up hate to the point that there was a terror attack on an MP during the referendum is just vile and not fit for a democracy.

 

Good luck in proving that.

 

Besides, Tommy Mair was mentally unstable, so the Mail can hardly be blamed for causing *that*!

 

An alternative interpretation is that he has realised the amount of damage he could be about to inflict on the country, and is desperately looking for a way out.

 

Somehow I doubt that theory!

 

No, he was well aware. It was always a vanity project. The elite like him only care for their own.

 

Except that Farage is in no way part of the 'elite'.

OK, here's a new question :

 

Name one concession you think the EU could have made to the UK that would have prevented Brexit?

None. It shouldn't have to and the press and elite were desperately clamouring doe it.

 

Lol.

Lol. Lol.

 

He has you fooled then.

 

He IS the establishment. Private school. Inherited wealth. Old boys' clubs. He can say he isn't as much as he wants, but just like Trump he IS. He then fools right wing news followers to believe the rich elite is actually Joe Everyman, when really Joe Everyman is the elite in a fake moustache and a copy of The Sun in hand.

Except that Farage is in no way part of the 'elite'.

Go on.

Go on.

 

You have to be part of the political mainstream to be considered a member of the 'elite'.

Good luck in proving that.

 

Besides, Tommy Mair was mentally unstable, so the Mail can hardly be blamed for causing *that*!

Somehow I doubt that theory!

Except that Farage is in no way part of the 'elite'.

 

1. "mentally unstable" people who murder for political reasons are called terrorists. The white ones just somehow avoid getting called that. He's not in a mental hospital he's in prison, as far as I'm aware.

 

2. Inciting people to get so angry that they commit crimes, knowing full well that there are "mentally unstable" people in the community, is manipulation.

 

3. It's a valid theory. Farage knows he's going down in history as the man that ruined the economy of the UK for the benefit of the elite.

 

4. Farage is part of the elite, private school, privileged upbringing, fox hunting with rich friends, and claims he struggles to get by on 200k a year, having bankrupted his own multi-million pound City-based banking investment business. If that's not "elite" I'd love to hear what you consider "elite". Bin-men? The Royal Family and no-one else? That he has very right-wing views does not change those facts, even if he has pulled the wool over some people's eyes by getting filmed having a pint and a fag and slagging off politicians.

1. "mentally unstable" people who murder for political reasons are called terrorists. The white ones just somehow avoid getting called that.

 

<cough> Gerry Adams<cough>

 

2. Inciting people to get so angry that they commit crimes, knowing full well that there are "mentally unstable" people in the community, is manipulation.

 

I will concede that point only if you allow that it applies equally to far-left-wingers as well as right...

 

 

I will concede that point only if you allow that it applies equally to far-left-wingers as well as right...

Last time I checked there wasn't a far left newspaper with a massive circulation using that kind of language, and an individual with far left views hadn't recently gunned down an MP in the street.

<cough> Gerry Adams<cough>

 

Well, if we're going back to the 20th century, cough, Nazis and the Daily Mail, cough, splutter.

Last time I checked there wasn't a far left newspaper with a massive circulation using that kind of language, and an individual with far left views hadn't recently gunned down an MP in the street.

 

So that would be a 'no' then.

Well, if we're going back to the 20th century, cough, Nazis and the Daily Mail, cough, splutter.

 

You didn't specify a time limit.

 

Besides, to 'oldies' like me, late 20th C events are still very relavent.

Edited January 12, 20187 yr by vidcapper