June 19, 20187 yr Author ..and back to important stuff: Italy moves back towards fascism as well.. "@antoguerrera Follow Follow @antoguerrera More BREAKING. #Italy Interior minister and LEAGUE leader Salvini: "I've asked for a census of the Roma community living in Italy. The irregular ones will be deported. However, we'll have to keep" in Italy "the Romas with Italian citizenship, unfortunately" (ANSA agency)" blatant ethnic cleansing "unfortunately", you can tell how reluctant this racist minister is to have to do it, so it will be interesting to see how the EU respond.
June 23, 20187 yr Author "@GlennWool 23h23 hours ago More In a huge step forward for human rights, Saudi women will now be able to drive THEMSELVES to the town square to watch the state sponsored murder of homosexuals. What a time to be alive!" Just to point out May and Trump are Besties with Saudi rulers.
June 23, 20187 yr ..and back to important stuff: Italy moves back towards fascism as well.. "@antoguerrera Follow Follow @antoguerrera More BREAKING. #Italy Interior minister and LEAGUE leader Salvini: "I've asked for a census of the Roma community living in Italy. The irregular ones will be deported. However, we'll have to keep" in Italy "the Romas with Italian citizenship, unfortunately" (ANSA agency)" blatant ethnic cleansing "unfortunately", you can tell how reluctant this racist minister is to have to do it, so it will be interesting to see how the EU respond. Probably nothing, the Roma are pretty universally discriminated against across Europe. There’s a good half a dozen countries, including ours, that are probably itching to follow Italy’s lead
June 23, 20187 yr "@GlennWool 23h23 hours ago More In a huge step forward for human rights, Saudi women will now be able to drive THEMSELVES to the town square to watch the state sponsored murder of homosexuals. What a time to be alive!" Just to point out May and Trump are Besties with Saudi rulers. Only until the oil runs out...
June 23, 20187 yr Probably nothing, the Roma are pretty universally discriminated against across Europe. There’s a good half a dozen countries, including ours, that are probably itching to follow Italy’s lead By 'Roma' do you mean gypsies, or Romanians?
June 24, 20187 yr If John and I meant Romanians we would have said “Romanians” rather obviously. I thought it best to clarify. There does seem to be some press confusion between Romas and 'travellers'.
June 24, 20187 yr This isn't until 4 November, but it looks unlikely that 'New Caledonia' will vote for independence in their independence referendum. Current polls suggest around 58 percent are firmly against independence (with estimates of around 66 and 73 percent opposed). It is however likely that in the Bougainvillean independence referendum (tentatively: 15 June 2019) they will vote for independence and would create the first new state on the planet since South Sudan in July 2011. *Much excite* Edited June 24, 20187 yr by Doctor Blind
June 24, 20187 yr Author After Bougainvillea, can Rhododendron be far behind? I thought they were called Zimbabwe these days?
June 26, 20187 yr Author And I thought my joke was bad :P I can always be relied on to lower the tone.... :lol:
June 26, 20187 yr Author here's an interesting thread featuring actual newspaper discussions on cosying up to Hitler in 1934 as fascism started to get a hold and hate rhetoric get a grip across Europe. https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/...301941540655106 I trust this firmly ends any arguments that trying to appease Haters is a total waste of time, you have to stand up to them, take them on and fight before they destroy anyone who disagrees with them......
June 27, 20187 yr here's an interesting thread featuring actual newspaper discussions on cosying up to Hitler in 1934 as fascism started to get a hold and hate rhetoric get a grip across Europe. https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/...301941540655106 I trust this firmly ends any arguments that trying to appease Haters is a total waste of time, you have to stand up to them, take them on and fight before they destroy anyone who disagrees with them...... I was always told that appeasement of the Nazis happened because of countries trying to avoid a repeat of the slaughter of WW1 at any cost.
June 27, 20187 yr Author I was always told that appeasement of the Nazis happened because of countries trying to avoid a repeat of the slaughter of WW1 at any cost. Who told you that? And even if it were true, it proves conclusively that turning a blind eye to injustice doesn't work, and turning a blind eye to try and avoid mass murder doesn't work either. Either way it happens, regardless of the Ostrich-head-in-sand motives. Think a bully in the pl;ayground punching you in the head and taking all your money then trying to justify it by threatening everyone with the same thing. If you don't stop him he keeps on doing it and starts taking money from others, starting with the weedy and easily bashable as the majority feel they wont be bothered if they dont stick their head up and start complaining on the grounds they might be next. Or, everyone gets together agrees the bully is a menace and confronts him and collectively brings him down. Those are the only 2 options ever in life and you are either one who stands up for what is right or you are one who doesn't give a shit what happens to others as long as you don't get bothered. The latter is winning at the moment....
June 27, 20187 yr Who told you that? And even if it were true, it proves conclusively that turning a blind eye to injustice doesn't work, and turning a blind eye to try and avoid mass murder doesn't work either. Either way it happens, regardless of the Ostrich-head-in-sand motives. Think a bully in the pl;ayground punching you in the head and taking all your money then trying to justify it by threatening everyone with the same thing. If you don't stop him he keeps on doing it and starts taking money from others, starting with the weedy and easily bashable as the majority feel they wont be bothered if they dont stick their head up and start complaining on the grounds they might be next. Or, everyone gets together agrees the bully is a menace and confronts him and collectively brings him down. Those are the only 2 options ever in life and you are either one who stands up for what is right or you are one who doesn't give a shit what happens to others as long as you don't get bothered. The latter is winning at the moment.... Personally, I've always though of myself as someone who stands up against injustice - that's partly why I suggest we punish criminals more severely...
June 27, 20187 yr Great! Let’s start with that criminal Farage, the tax evading owners of the Mail and News Corp and the Tories who fiddled their expenses for their campaigns! Then let’s follow that up with all those involved in the dark web of illegal financing for the leave vote. Oh wait. You just mean putting more struggling victims of austerity trying to put food on the table in jail instead of addressing the root cause
June 27, 20187 yr Great! Let’s start with that criminal Farage, the tax evading owners of the Mail and News Corp and the Tories who fiddled their expenses for their campaigns! Then let’s follow that up with all those involved in the dark web of illegal financing for the leave vote. Oh wait. You just mean putting more struggling victims of austerity trying to put food on the table in jail instead of addressing the root cause I just walked right into that one, didn't I? :rolleyes: Seriously, though - there does have to be an arrest & trial before any of that happens. I'm sure you wouldn't want to skip those steps... There are plenty of victims of austerity who haven't turned to crime, though, so that rather undermines your insinuation that I am trying to scapegoat them.
June 27, 20187 yr On the subject of crime and punishment, what about the man who picked up a London Marathon runner's number that had fallen off, ran the last part of the race and claimed a finisher's medal? He was jailed for sixteen weeks. The marathon organisers tried to claim the sentence was justified because his actions damaged the integrity of their race. I don't see how any sort of custodial sentence in this case does anybody any good.
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