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When the far-right Italian government shut the power to a homeless shelter, the Vatican's almoner, (his actual title) Cardinal Krajewski, defied the police and crawled down a manhole in order to restore its power.

 

The conflict between the reactionary, borderline-fascist Italian government and the Catholic Church in Rome has been one of the more under-reported stories in the English speaking world to date - there was a protest against the Vatican's stance on immigration by a group of Mussolini lovers over the weekend, so expect to see more stories showing a conflict between the two in the months ahead.

'No jab, no school’

 

Call for 250,000 teenagers to get MMR jab to halt spread of measles, as experts say those who don't have it must be banned from class

 

A study warned that current vaccination policies are ‘not sufficient’

Researchers said the UK should consider making vaccination compulsory

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said that he ‘wouldn’t rule out’ such a ban

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-70...ad-measles.html

 

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Personally I think anti-vaxxers are crazy, gambling with the health of their children. :wacko:

 

IMO it's a similar situation to seatbelts in cars - protecting people from their own stupidity.

can't believe i agree with you.

 

Don't worry, it won't happen very often. perhaps you can be vaccinated against it. :lol:

 

anti-vaxxers are dangerous child abusers

 

When I was a child, the MMR vaccine hadn't been invented - it was probably as case of 'we either caught the diseases, or didn't'...

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I had measles as a child and was almost deaf for six months as a result. My parents were faced with the worry that I would lose my hearing permanently - I was too young to know what was going on.

 

That said, the case is a classic dilemma for liberal-minded people. Clearly it is in the best interests of the population for all children to be vaccinated. The claims that the jab causes autism were dismissed as nonsense years ago, not that certain people have yet accepted that scientists tend to know about science and scientific proof. Even when there was a doubt about its safety (and the evidence was always between very slim and non-existent), the potential damage caused by measles surely outweighed any risk posed by the jab.

 

Even so, the policy of preventing children from going to school unless they have been vaccinated can be seen as punishing the child for the actions of the parents. That leaves me unconvinced that such a ban is the right thing to do. In the case of teenagers, a campaign to encourage those who were not vaccinated to get it done asap - with schools and universities playing a big part in the campaign - is a perfectly sensible thing to do.

 

The Daily Mail, of course, published rather more anti-vaccine articles than most (if not all) of the rest of the press. The BBC didn't help matters by treating the matter as if opinion was evenly divided, thereby ensuring that a pro-vaccine guest (usually someone with scientific qualifications) was always "balanced" by an anti-vaccine guest (usually not a scientist of any sort).

I had measles as a child and was almost deaf for six months as a result. My parents were faced with the worry that I would lose my hearing permanently - I was too young to know what was going on.

 

I take it you recovered your hearing, although still with some impairment? :unsure:

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I also had measles. Any parent happy to risk their child's life when faced with evidence vaccination protects doesn't have their interest at heart (or anyone else's children). "I survived therefore it must be fine for my kids to plod on through it"
I also had measles. Any parent happy to risk their child's life when faced with evidence vaccination protects doesn't have their interest at heart (or anyone else's children). "I survived therefore it must be fine for my kids to plod on through it"

 

Someone needs to invent a vaccine against stupid parents... :w00t:

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Random thought...

 

I wish I had a time machine so that I could go 30 years (or whatever period) ahead, to find out immediately what gov'ts are hiding under the 30 year-rule. :heehee:

Random thought...

 

I wish I had a time machine so that I could go 30 years (or whatever period) ahead, to find out immediately what gov'ts are hiding under the 30 year-rule. :heehee:

The period is gradually coming down, so I'm hoping I'll still be alive when the papers from the last few years are released.

 

Can you imagine the fun you could cause if you could jump ahead, read the news reports on the released papers and then return to our time and start briefing the press :lol:

The period is gradually coming down, so I'm hoping I'll still be alive when the papers from the last few years are released.

 

Some ww2 papers are *still* classified, and the longer for, the more juicy info they must contain... ;)

 

Some ww2 papers are *still* classified, and the longer for, the more juicy info they must contain... ;)

If May is still around, i’m sure she will try to withhold as many papers as she can.

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immigration-hating Yaxley-Lemon applies for haven in death-sentencing USA after he feels he's on "death-row" for breaking UK laws on being innocent until proven guilty. Hilarious, and oh the irony of Tommy Rottingson becoming what he hates so much: a foreigner trying to get into another country, one who is "persecuted" for breaking the actual laws of a nation that he supposedly loves so much, and he can't even give his actual real name on his application.

 

What a shit-stirring big baby hypocrite. All those troops worshipping the ground he farts on must be kicking themselves for being fooled by a publicity-seeking charlatan who hates the country they serve so much that a potential minor jail sentence (which he was warned about beforehand and chose to ignore) reduces him to a self-pitying fool.

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Tories to break convention by running candidate against Speaker John Bercow...

 

He says he will quit at the next election...

Authoritarian dictator wannabes gonna authoritarian dictate!

 

Is in this case, though? It's only convention that says the main parties don't run candidates against the Speaker, not a *law*.

 

If a Speaker really was breaking their mandate of impartiality, shouldn't there be *some* means of keeping them in check?

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Is in this case, though? It's only convention that says the main parties don't run candidates against the Speaker, not a *law*.

 

If a Speaker really was breaking their mandate of impartiality, shouldn't there be *some* means of keeping them in check?

 

They need a yes-man EXTREME HARD RIGHT spesker to subvert the laws and conventions of parliament.

 

I told you all along that this was the true face of the landed gentry party. Believe me now? ;)

They need a yes-man EXTREME HARD RIGHT spesker to subvert the laws and conventions of parliament.

 

I told you all along that this was the true face of the landed gentry party. Believe me now? ;)

 

No - because you are delusional, as always.

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