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The economic impact of the referendum result was mitigated by the Bank of England spending somewhere around £70bn (i.e. over 1,000 per man, woman and child in the country). I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating until everybody remembers it.

 

That was just a one-off panic reaction, and no-one on the Leave side asked them to do it.

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Well, Thomas Mair had no connection with the Leave campaign, but that didn't stop Remainers claiming he was in some way representative of Leavers...

This seems to be one of the most pertinent lines :

 

The first survey, commissioned jointly by Best for Britain and Hope Not Hate

 

So, no vested interest at all in the findings, then. :rolleyes:

Now you’re sounding like Michael. As i’ve said countless times before, polling companies have a reputation to protect. Most of their work doesn’t get reported but they would lose that business if they failed to abide by their code of conduct.

Now you’re sounding like Michael.

 

Yes, that was my intention (assuming Michael = Queef of Peace, etc). ;)

 

As i’ve said countless times before, polling companies have a reputation to protect. Most of their work doesn’t get reported but they would lose that business if they failed to abide by their code of conduct.

 

I wish you could convince 'Michael' of that - but in any case, any polling company that produced inaccurate results deliberately, wouldn't stay in business long.

Well, Thomas Mair had no connection with the Leave campaign, but that didn't stop Remainers claiming he was in some way representative of Leavers...

This seems to be one of the most pertinent lines :

 

The first survey, commissioned jointly by Best for Britain and Hope Not Hate

 

So, no vested interest at all in the findings, then. :rolleyes:

 

Thomas Who? Never heard of him. Don't know who these "Remainers" quoting him were when there's more than enough stuff on the official websites and out of the mouths of the official liars.

 

 

vested interests are those who pay for stuff (see Aaron banks and the Leave campaign and his Russian dirty money) or stand to gain out of it.

 

Remain-based summaries are not provided by anyone who stands to gain anything, they are provided by people who are trying not to lose anything out of it - eg wages, jobs, NHS workers, economic prosperity for the nation - which is not the same thing at all. What you mean is someone has taken facts provided by someone else as a routine monitoring of the mood of the nation and extrapolated what it means in terms of mood of the nation.

 

You are free to put your own meaning into the results, or choose to ignore them if they don't suit your interests to acknowledge them - which is after all, the way of the Brexiteer, to casually ignore facts that are uncomfortable and show them up to be liars. The more Brexiteers avoid the conclusion the rest of us have come to about their lies and broken promises, the better, as the shock of reality will be a deserved blow. Some, like Danny Dyer, realise they have been lied to, and majorly pissed off.

Which part do you find amusing?

 

 

Ooh, me sir, can I answer that? Ta...

 

The part where the economy goes into a nosedive and you think it would have been fabulous to let it plummet so that we can all point to the massive downturn and blame Brexit for it just as remain predicted and Leave insisted was a lie.

 

SO funny that you don't even realise you are helping the argument that Remain was telling the truth.

Thomas Who? Never heard of him. Don't know who these "Remainers" quoting him were when there's more than enough stuff on the official websites and out of the mouths of the official liars.

vested interests are those who pay for stuff (see Aaron banks and the Leave campaign and his Russian dirty money) or stand to gain out of it.

 

Remain-based summaries are not provided by anyone who stands to gain anything, they are provided by people who are trying not to lose anything out of it - eg wages, jobs, NHS workers, economic prosperity for the nation - which is not the same thing at all. What you mean is someone has taken facts provided by someone else as a routine monitoring of the mood of the nation and extrapolated what it means in terms of mood of the nation.

 

You are free to put your own meaning into the results, or choose to ignore them if they don't suit your interests to acknowledge them - which is after all, the way of the Brexiteer, to casually ignore facts that are uncomfortable and show them up to be liars. The more Brexiteers avoid the conclusion the rest of us have come to about their lies and broken promises, the better, as the shock of reality will be a deserved blow. Some, like Danny Dyer, realise they have been lied to, and majorly pissed off.

 

I think the word you are looking for is "mumpsimus".

 

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/mumpsimus

 

(Thanks to Susie Dent for her tweeted word of the day.)

Th eidera that all would have been well if the Bank of England had not intervened.

 

But that's something we can never know, only speculate about, since history can't be rerun with a no-BOE intervention scenario.

We can see what things would have been like by taking the actual economic results since the QE and subtracting the impact of the QE.
But that's something we can never know, only speculate about, since history can't be rerun with a no-BOE intervention scenario.

Indeed, but it's reasonable to conclude that it did have some impact. It is also reasonable to conclude that it almost certainly prevented the value of the pound falling even further. The only uncertainty is over the exact scale of the impact.

Meanwhile, The Telegraph (a strong Leave-supporting paper, remember) reports that Chris Grayling revealed in a meeting that he had no idea that leaving without a deal would mean that British lorry drivers would be unable to drive in the rest of the EU. Well, why would he know? He's only the Transport Secretary.
Meanwhile, The Telegraph (a strong Leave-supporting paper, remember) reports that Chris Grayling revealed in a meeting that he had no idea that leaving without a deal would mean that British lorry drivers would be unable to drive in the rest of the EU. Well, why would he know? He's only the Transport Secretary.

 

...and a complete muppet to boot. So many Tory inbreds are scandalously stupid and uninformed, even when it's their job to y'know, ASK a lackey what it might mean for their actual job if they are too thick to google it for themselves.

But that's something we can never know, only speculate about, since history can't be rerun with a no-BOE intervention scenario.

 

"I can argue against all facts by saying that's what happened and I can interpret that to mean things would have been marvellous if people had only listened to me and let events run their course because we don't need experts, even when they have proven success running a minor village like Canada"

 

PS here's an example of a country not responding to a plummeting currency...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/a...urrency-markets

I never tire of providing examples of hypocritical Brexiteers...

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Andrew #FBPE #FinalSay

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That will be Steve Baker the duplicitous MP for High Wycombe. An utter disgrace to himself and the party.

@Doozy_45

TOXIC: Leading Brexiteer invested £70,000 in firm advising clients to buy gold to avoid impact of a no-deal #Brexit http://uk.businessinsider.com/steve-baker-...sterling-2018-8 …"

 

Just saying they all say one thing and do another completely different thing to underline just how much they are all massive LIARS.

 

Have I mentioned how much I loathe liars and hypocrites? A very good morning to all lying rich Brexiteers busy getting richer off the forthcoming economic disaster. Love you all.

I think it's the same as mumsnet, a bunch of middle class not young posters.

 

The article is rubbish of course. It moans about Brtexiteers all being lumped into one homgenous whole who had made their minds up decades ago - this is not true. It lumps anyone who doesn;t support Brexit into one liberal wishy washy homogenous whole, which is also not true, and provides no evidence that any of the main problems with Brexit are not lies.

 

It states we should be looking at what caused the feeling that led to the anti0EU feeling - yes we should, and address those issues. It doesnt say what they are though. It doesnt say how brexit will resolve those issues. It doesnt say much of anyhting at all. Just ahve a go at remaioners really, and that's that.

 

If Brexiteers have made their minds up, and wont change and remain deleriously happy, then there is no reason at all not to have a final say on the final deal, because they will all 100% no doubt still be 52% majority in favout of the final brexit deal.

 

Unless of course, the assumption behind the statements isn't actually true and it's all bollocks.

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