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Back on Brexit lies: May and her new EU lackey announce they are stockpiling food and NHS supplies ahead of a potential hard Brexit, which won't make people panic and start stock-piling food in any way. But we are heading into sunny uplands where the sun never sets on the glorious British Empire and we can just get food from the good ol US of Chlorinated A they keep saying...

 

They don't mean that, gasp, we can expect to stand in line for rations of food do they?! I don't recall that promise in the referendum! Nor do I recall promises that people would die in hospital because they cant get vital medical supplies. Amazon reckons civil disobedience within 2 weeks of a Hard Brexit. I mean, how long are those supplies due to last, a week? a month? a year? forever? This sounds worse than anything Cameron & Osbourne came up when they panicked towards the end of the referendum. Sounds like they were erring on the side of caution lately based on what those organising our EU agreement are saying. Unless they are trying scare tactics for the EU's benefit (Hint: it won't work because they wont be starving or short on medical supplies, and not selling a few cars and bankers not getting access wont make anyone lose sleep)

 

I must say it's come to something when a company that avoids paying huge amounts of tax in the UK in exchange for providing a few jobs to make up for the many more they've driven out of business on the High Street suddenly gets worried that profits might dry up.....

Two weeks?!? Sod that. I’m throwing the first Molotov at the strike of midnight

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Apparently we have a "just in time" supply chain, meaning it is going to be extremely difficult to stockpile anything. Two weeks' worth is MORE than a stretch.

Indeed we do. The majority of business have reformed stock management processes over the past 3 decades to a JIT approach. Some factories won’t make it to sunrise before burning through the stock they have on hand. Supermarkets will go 48hrs on perishable goods before shortages appear.

 

It’s not dramatic to say that our country is quite literally dependent on seamless trading with the EEA to survive

1. And I believe it did. Your opinion on a such a narrow win (which farage said wasnt enough to avoid another referendum on the evening of the result when he claimed his side had lost by under 2% - he was lying trying to make himself rich manipulating markets, apparently, as he already knew the result from his own polling companies) can't be proven either way, therefore it should be re-run now we now the facts and your heroes can't lie to you or anyone else.

 

2. I do. Thanks, I was hoping for your blessing that I'm allowed to believe you don't care about a generation of young people who will have to put up with the results of people voting for something they wont live long enough to see. Especially when you tried to convince us for 2 years that we had no proof it was going to be a shitshow, when it actually is a shitshow, and it's obvious we will all be worse off now. Nobody is pretending otherwise, they are just trying to rewrite history that everyone knew what they were voting for, which they didn't. Gullible people believed the liars.

 

I will keep on reminding anyone that claims otherwise on what was promised are lies for the rest of my life until such time as we stay/rejoin the EU. Just like Farage & co have spent decades moaning about being in the EU without actually specifying exactly how it was hurting us. Only I can specify how it IS hurting us.

 

Get used to it. Never gonna stop. Why would anyone knowing they are right do otherwise?

 

ISTM that Remainers want a rerun on *their* terms, rather than impartial ones. If they want a rerun to be really fair, then there should be no Project Fear either.

 

You have failed to consider the possibility that some Brexiters voted Leave to protect Britain from an increasingly domineering EU.

 

Fine, but don't expect me to stop disagreeing with you, then. If you refuse to give an inch, then why should I?

But would they have voted that way if they knew of the actual consequences? Leave promised a "richer, brighter future" under the Norway model ... with less immigrants (impossible, unless they changed the eu from within and cut it from outside the eu and found people willing to do all the jobs that immigration would usually fill).

 

Project Fear is project fact. I suppose you had no trouble with it r.e Scotland? Or would you like them independent to make Little England a right wing One Party State?

1. I don't believe the way the campaign was fought had a significant effect on the result, given the minimal opinion poll variance from start to end of the campaign.

 

2. As I stated earlier, what's the point of my voting at all, if I don't give priority to my own beliefs? If you perceive that as 'not caring', that's your prerogative.

"OK, so technically I broke the law by doing 80mph in a 40-limit area, but it's not as if I hit anything. Therefore, it doesn't count and should be ignored".

 

I don't think that defence would work in court. The fact is the Leave campaign broke the law. That's before you consider the fact that most of their campaign was a pack of lies. If they didn't think the campaign would make any difference, why didn't they stick to the law and telling the truth?

Right place for this??

 

https://eutoday.net/news/politics/2017/nige...-about-the-jews

 

 

I assume the BBC won't bother blaring out headlines about this?

 

Farage, fresh from using Nazi propaganda in the ref and singing Nazi songs at school, is now blaming Jewish people, 'the Jews' as he put it, which sounds familiar.

 

This is the paragon of Brexit: a racist fascist who lied through his back teeth to scrape a victory that, with proper safeguards, would never have been a victory in the first place. He needs to stop being invited on the BBC and given a platform.

Dominic Raab has decided that his first challenge as DExEU minister is to try to gain a reputation for being even dimmer than his predecessor. A tough task, but he's giving it a go. He has sent a tweet accusing the SNP of playing politics. He went on to say that the Tories "will deliver a successful deal for all England's regions, including Scotland".
ISTM that Remainers want a rerun on *their* terms, rather than impartial ones. If they want a rerun to be really fair, then there should be no Project Fear either.

 

You have failed to consider the possibility that some Brexiters voted Leave to protect Britain from an increasingly domineering EU.

 

Fine, but don't expect me to stop disagreeing with you, then. If you refuse to give an inch, then why should I?

 

Havent failed to consider anything. I know from talking to wide varieties of Brexiters that they didn't all vote for the same reasons. I keep repeating this to you as your memory is not what it used to be, it would appear. Many were taken in by the promises it would be easy, they would be better off, and the NHS would be properly funded. Those were lies. Nothing you say can avoid that fact. A re-run would be based on the final deal, agreed or not agreed (Hard Brexit). There will be no need for lies as it will be written down (or there will be nothing). Lying tosspots can only say "well I think it's worth all the misery and inconvenience for something I feel strongly about, and 50 years from now those not yet born will be very grateful for what we did as they fry from global warming" or "I'd rather stay in the EU than end up worse off in the following ways". For example.

 

What's to give an inch? I have never lied about anything relating to Brexit. That gives me the moral highground and reliability than those quitters who lied, pissed about for 2 years and then buggered off moaning and muttering about something they knew was coming anyway...

 

"I told you so" is very satisfying when you can throw it in the face of bald-faced professional liars like Johnson.

Right place for this??

 

https://eutoday.net/news/politics/2017/nige...-about-the-jews

I assume the BBC won't bother blaring out headlines about this?

 

Farage, fresh from using Nazi propaganda in the ref and singing Nazi songs at school, is now blaming Jewish people, 'the Jews' as he put it, which sounds familiar.

 

This is the paragon of Brexit: a racist fascist who lied through his back teeth to scrape a victory that, with proper safeguards, would never have been a victory in the first place. He needs to stop being invited on the BBC and given a platform.

 

"when you have run out of people to blame there's always the Jews". Tried and trusted Fascist policy. Anyone that can say good things about such a vile, hateful, lying, self-enriching, loathesome human being is not doing anything for their own image among those who don't support those views....

Dominic Raab has decided that his first challenge as DExEU minister is to try to gain a reputation for being even dimmer than his predecessor. A tough task, but he's giving it a go. He has sent a tweet accusing the SNP of playing politics. He went on to say that the Tories "will deliver a successful deal for all England's regions, including Scotland".

 

Domidick.

Dominic Raab has decided that his first challenge as DExEU minister is to try to gain a reputation for being even dimmer than his predecessor. A tough task, but he's giving it a go. He has sent a tweet accusing the SNP of playing politics. He went on to say that the Tories "will deliver a successful deal for all England's regions, including Scotland".

I had the misfortune of reading that particular tweet earlier. I’m all for his ridiculous tweeting, makes the likelihood of a Yes vote in Indyref2 that little bit higher and every little helps.

 

The Scottish Tories are also harping on about the SNP playing politics and not co-operating with the government to give Scotland a good Brexit deal. This would be the Scotland that voted comprehensively to remain and polls show is even more pro-EU than in 2016

Nearly 50% of ALL facebook leave adds were about immigration. Racist vote. Surprise surprise. Yet 60% think Britons should have the right to live and work in the EU, but only 40% think European citizens should have the right to work in the UK xD
-_-

 

Project Fear is alive & kicking...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...mment-118778016

 

No it isn't. He states quite clearly he is exaggerating. Most of the facts and assumptions he states are quite reasonable extrapolations of what WILL happen in the event of a NO DEAL.

 

Project LIE is still alive and kicking, despite being humiliatingly discredited on every claim they have made. Still trying desperately to get a Hard Brexit for what purpose? To gloat as the UK fails and falls and angry people take to the streets?

 

Anyone who is willing to ignore evidence and potential chaos should be reminded of all their lies and claims. Forever.

No it isn't. He states quite clearly he is exaggerating. Most of the facts and assumptions he states are quite reasonable extrapolations of what WILL happen in the event of a NO DEAL.

 

Project LIE is still alive and kicking, despite being humiliatingly discredited on every claim they have made. Still trying desperately to get a Hard Brexit for what purpose? To gloat as the UK fails and falls and angry people take to the streets?

 

Anyone who is willing to ignore evidence and potential chaos should be reminded of all their lies and claims. Forever.

 

I hope you don't find that task too boring, then... :mellow:

and back to facts, led by the one-woman crusading solo journalist who has been flicking through the illegally-paid "adverts" twisting the campaign via Facebook now the evidence has been presented to Parliament. Somebody put 'em out there (and grabbed names and addresses of people falling for them to blitz propaganda to) and they are shockingly racist, and twist anything and everything to make the EU look like whale-hunting, mass importing black people & Muslims, and Turkish invasion of the UK promoters of all things anti-British using lies and distortion.

 

Worth a look at...

 

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1...596449207574528

 

Other journalists watch and learn how to report facts, not re-write or cut n paste official spin....

and back to facts, led by the one-woman crusading solo journalist who has been flicking through the illegally-paid "adverts" twisting the campaign via Facebook now the evidence has been presented to Parliament. Somebody put 'em out there (and grabbed names and addresses of people falling for them to blitz propaganda to) and they are shockingly racist, and twist anything and everything to make the EU look like whale-hunting, mass importing black people & Muslims, and Turkish invasion of the UK promoters of all things anti-British using lies and distortion.

 

Worth a look at...

 

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1...596449207574528

 

Other journalists watch and learn how to report facts, not re-write or cut n paste official spin....

 

They're calling it a massive phishing scam :lol:

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/inve...ing-scam/27/07/

 

I reaaally don't understand how Brexiters are now saying it is unacceptable to stay in the common market after campaigning to say we would stay in it??

 

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