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  1. 1. Should Scotland become an independent country?

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Because English nationalism is blood and soil nationalism but Scottish nationalism is civic nationalism.

 

Care to explain the difference?

 

Don't say 'look it up' - I'm interested in how *you* interpret it?

 

I.e. EngNats hate immigrants but ScotNats are fervently pro-immigrants

 

Even English immigrants?

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Even English immigrants?

Hello, English immigrant here, and, yes? Do you really look at pro-independence politicians and see anti-Englishness?

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Hello, English immigrant here, and, yes? Do you really look at pro-independence politicians and see anti-Englishness?

 

That's why I tried to ask in a neutral way.

English nationalism tends to be expressed as English superiority and exceptionalism. The last 2 1/2 years have reinforced that with (mainly English) Quitters sticking to their belief that the EU should offer the UK far more than they offer any other non-members.
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English nationalism tends to be expressed as English superiority and exceptionalism. The last 2 1/2 years have reinforced that with (mainly English) Quitters sticking to their belief that the EU should offer the UK far more than they offer any other non-members.

 

Can you demonstrate that English nationalism (in terms of temporary UKIP support rather than knuckle-dragging BNP etc), was anything other than 'civic', rather than 'blood & soil'. Or indeed that there is no 'blood & soil' nationalism amongst SNP voters?

 

Also, I don't think it's legitimate to equate 'former members' with 'non-members', as the latter will never have made any contribution, economic or otherwise, to the EU, whereas our contribution was major.

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