It's hard to see where she'll go after this, although didn't I read someone say they're not really recording for an album and testing the waters with singles?

Edited August 19, 20195 yr by Tawdry Hepburn

I'm gonna reluctantly say... deserved. I've listened a few times now and it is so nondescript. Album track at best for her standards. Not surprised if this is a gigantic flop and wouldn't be upset about it.

 

NRO still goes off thankfully so we have that at least! :music:

 

100% THIS

 

I only speed listened to it once and that was enough.

 

She needed to go all out on NRO ans then Harleys jn Haiwaii in September.

Yeah it really was a bit of an odd choice of single after gaining back so much momentum with NRO, like, did they really think this could be as big if not better than NRO?

Oops at this floppage :( I really like it, but it's not one of those songs I want to go back to loads like I did with NRO, that was undeniably huge and this just isn't right to follow that as a single it seems, whether you like it or not that's clear.

 

She is just testing the waters but it's still quite concerning if she's going to flop this badly with a song!

Will she become "the new Selena Gomez" who just releases 3 singles and disappears for a year to come back with a lackluster feature?

Also, I think it's stupidity for her team not to release her music videos straight away. Never Really Over's video views massively helped it debut top 20 (Not to mention it helps sales and streams a bit too) and video views were the reason 365 managed to debut higher than this.

Oh it actually ended up debuting higher than 365 on Billboard(81), without the official video streams that had, or the radio adds. Smash!

Down to #82 on the UK iTunes and down to #88 on Spotify. I know it's early days but yeah, this isn't gonna do anything is it

 

 

Down to #82 on the UK iTunes and down to #88 on Spotify. I know it's early days but yeah, this isn't gonna do anything is it

 

Yeah, Capital are spamming it too...It's not looking good.

It’s still a bit soon to fully write it off.

 

I think it could perform similarly to some of Ellie’s last few singles what went top 40 after a few weeks.

 

We haven’t had an official video for it yet or any promo.

 

Maybe this could be her American Oxygen like single though?

 

The songs not that bad. She’s released much worse. If Swish Swish, Bon Appetit and This Is How We Do can go top 40 this should be able to manage it.

Edited August 20, 20195 yr by Jordan Lee

SS and BA were great tho

 

(And also released somewhat in her prime when she still had a lot of hype)

Yeah I was about to say the same thing ^

 

It's an uphill battle for Katy now, she needs A+ material otherwise she'll continue to slide. Small Talk I'm sure would have been a cute hit for her 6 years ago when she was in her prime, but it's not good enough at this stage.

What exactly is a cute hit :S

What exactly is a cute hit :S

Not Small Talk ~

What exactly is a cute hit :S

 

I keep hearing this term around and I've been almost as baffled.

 

I think it means "minor hit, but not massive". But I'm not 100%.

I keep hearing this term around and I've been almost as baffled.

 

I think it means "minor hit, but not massive". But I'm not 100%.

 

Yes, it means something that spends a few weeks top 40/20, but isn't a massive smash. - Think, like 'Boys' or 'after the afterparty' by Charli Xcx

 

Which this won't be.

So it'd be like Swish Swish and Bon Appetit?

So it'd be like Swish Swish and Bon Appetit?

 

Yeah, pretty much. Something in between really, cos Swish is coming for Plat and Bon was a bit too floppy. More like This Is How We Do or Birthday?

I'm baffled by this song's promotion. They gave it number one on TTH, and just released the vertical video a few days ago and have only just serviced it to mainstream radio? And the music video doesn't even have a release date yet? If they really wanted this to be a hit, they should lifted an embargo on release day and gone all out by releasing the video, vertical video, and having it impacted pop radio immediately. It really feels like Capitol wasn't ready for this song's release AT ALL. They should hide this away in a closet and never speak of it again. Or just say it's a buzz single/promotional single. Just... yikes.

It's hard work being a Katy stan these days.