Elizabeth Warren is in the smoky back-room deals against Bernie. Wow. Fake progressive. I was right all along! Buzzjackers, hang your heads with your awful judgement of character and awful political predictions.

I like Warren and think she'd make a great President. Far better than Hillary, Bernie or Joe.

I like Warren and think she'd make a great President. Far better than Hillary, Bernie or Joe.

 

 

Yeah an endorsement from you is something people DON'T want. With that endorsement, we can 100% confirm that she is f***ing atrocious.

So I have been off of supporting Warren for about a month, ever since that clash between her and Sanders in the debates. It came across as ungenuine and trying to play this narrative of identity (whereby people will support a woman, any woman, no matter their policies). Ever since then I've heard almost nothing about her policies and just stuff about her character, which is pretty superficial when you're going to be running one of the most important countries on Earth. At the moment, she has no credible path to the White House and if she truly is a progressive, then she is hurting the leading progressive candidate by staying in for Super Tuesday.

 

Most analysts are saying that Buttigieg's withdrawal (calculated and cynical to the end) will help Biden as it allows for there to be one less moderate choice and allows Warren or Bloomberg to reach viability in a few states, thereby having a knockon effect of less delegates for the top 2 and more likely to reach a brokered convention which we have strong reason to believe will be an anti-democratic shitshow should Bernie go in with a plurality and not a majority. Warren staying in for Super Tuesday only hurts the progressive cause.

Yeah an endorsement from you is something people DON'T want. With that endorsement, we can 100% confirm that she is f***ing atrocious.

 

 

LOL. You do make me laugh Michael

So Super Tuesday is almost here with a huge 1344 delegates out of the 3979 total up for grabs tomorrow.

 

From CNN.

 

Q: Why is Super Tuesday a big deal?

 

A: It’s simple: There are a whole lot of delegates at stake.

 

The way to win the Democratic nomination is by winning delegates — specifically, winning 1,991 out of 3,979 pledged delegates, enough for a majority to get the nomination at the Democratic National Convention. And there are 1,344 delegates — one-third of the total — up for grabs in Super Tuesday’s contests.

 

Though there will be several more months of primaries remaining, it’s possible that Super Tuesday can settle the nomination contest. It’s not mathematically possible to reach the “magic number” of delegates yet — but Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004 won so convincingly on Super Tuesday that their opponents quit shortly afterward.

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States voting tomorrow with no. of delegates. From CNN.

 

 

California (415 delegates)

Texas (228 delegates)

North Carolina (110 delegates)

Virginia (99 delegates)

Massachusetts (91 delegates)

Minnesota (75 delegates)

Colorado (67 delegates)

Tennessee (64 delegates)

Alabama (52 delegates)

Oklahoma (37 delegates)

Arkansas (31 delegates)

Utah (29 delegates)

Maine (24 delegates)

Vermont (16 delegates)

American Samoa (6 delegates)

CNN experts analysis.

 

 

If a candidate finishes Super Tuesday with 40 percent of delegates so far, he or she needs to win 56 percent of the remaining delegates for a majority.

If the top candidate has 35 percent of delegates after Super Tuesday, he or she needs to win 59 percent of the remaining delegates.

If the post-Super Tuesday leader has 30 percent of delegates so far, he or she needs to win 62 percent of the remainder.

 

 

So while the expectation now is that Bernie Sanders is the frontrunner, and polls appear to back that up, this won’t really be set in stone until we see how he — and everyone else — does on Super Tuesday.

 

Sanders could, as many now expect, win most states by significant margins and build a sizable delegate lead that will carry him to the nomination. But if there’s a late swing to another candidate — such as Biden, who just won big in South Carolina on Saturday — Sanders could also lose his frontrunner status quite quickly.

 

For the other candidates who have had more mixed outcomes or little success, Super Tuesday is really do or die. If you don’t get a significant chunk of the Super Tuesday delegates, it becomes all but impossible to get a pledged delegate majority.

 

Possibilities:

 

One candidate emerges with a large delegate lead and on track for the majority: This would mean they’re a commanding favorite to win the nomination.

 

One candidate emerges with a large delegate plurality in a split field but is not on track for a majority: This means that person is the favorite to get the nomination eventually, but one or more of their rivals could continue campaigning to try and deprive them of the majority and make things interesting at the convention.

 

Two candidates split almost all the delegates: This would likely mean a two-person race going forward, with the outcome up in the air, but likely to be settled before the convention (since it’s extremely likely, in a two-candidate race, that one person ends up with a majority).

 

Three or more candidates split delegates, and no one’s on track for a majority: This is the scenario where a contested convention would be most likely and votes of the so-called Super Delegates come in to play.

Edited March 2, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Finally, it’s entirely possible that we won’t actually know the Super Tuesday outcome on Super Tuesday. For instance, California takes a famously long time to count votes (due to the need to verify late-arriving mailed ballots), and the exact vote shares and margins both statewide and in its 53 congressional districts could be important.

 

If one candidate does end up winning almost everywhere, that might not be such a big deal. But in this nomination contest so far, it’s usually prudent to expect that things could get messy.

Klobuchar's gone and endorsing Biden.

 

They're really coalescing around the anti-Bernie candidate now. Dear god.

Klobuchar's gone and endorsing Biden.

 

They're really coalescing around the anti-Bernie candidate now. Dear god.

 

Boardroom deals. The dnc will have paid her off. This is why they were so, so desperate for a Biden rout in South Carolina.

 

Klobuchar going helps Bernie in Minnesota, but causes problems in California, ans her vote will go to Warren in Mass, basically guaranteeing a Warren win there. Ho hmm.

 

The fact that Warren isn't dropping out today shows she is a right wing neoliberal stooge. She is salty and wants Bernie to go down with her.

I have been a fan of Warren for the past decade — it's a shame to see her destroy her credibility like this. It's been a massive disappointment, other than the first debate with Bloomberg, for a few months now. PAC money, hoping for a brokered convention, the attacks on Bernie. Do they really think the Democrats would even cope if she walked away with the nomination despite having the smallest share of delegates? It's time to drop out and endorse Sanders, anything else is selfish and destructive to herself and the party.

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I am starting to believe she is a Manchurian candidate, bought and paid for by the eich to infiltrate the left. That's what she did as a professor after all.

I am starting to belueve she is a Manchurian candidate, bought and paid for by the eich to infiltrate the left. That's what she did as a professor after all.

 

 

Why does everything in politics have to be a conspiracy for you? You have one about Warren now. Also, couldn't Klobuchar have decided she couldn't win so stood down herself without any influence?

Edited March 2, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

I missed out this - what did Warren do?

I missed out this - what did Warren do?

 

 

Michael thinks she's a Manchurian candidate.

Why does everything in politics have to be a conspiracy for you? You have one about Warren now. Also, couldn't Klobuchar have decided she couldn't win so stood down herself without any influence?

 

Because that's politics.

 

Ignorance is bliss, but that doesn't make me become naive and start believing blustering buffoons like Blojo.

Why does everything in politics have to be a conspiracy for you? You have one about Warren now. Also, couldn't Klobuchar have decided she couldn't win so stood down herself without any influence?

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ar_wild/status/1...681625503399937

 

This is Warren. Manchurian candidate.

It's not so much a conspiracy as much as it is looking at the basic electoral maths and seeing that it only hurts Warren's progressive cause to stay in at this point, and the only other answer is that Warren has an ego keeping her in. Which I think she does to an extent.

 

Her campaign has taken on a distinct shift towards moderate liberal politics also, while still remaining the common second choice for progressives. I think it's clear she wanted to try and be the 'unity' candidate but didn't consider that there are such irreconcilable differences between the wings of the party that it tore apart her base. Honestly, moderate Democrats and progressives in many cases shouldn't be the same party. The former are conservatives who care about at least appearing civil to minorities and the latter are leftists who are only engaging with this corrupt party because they want a chance at actually changing something.

 

Klobuchar definitely had a talk with Biden, given she immediately endorsed him. Buttigieg was also flying to a Biden rally not long after his campaign's suspension. If you don't think this was orchestrated then I'm sorry but you're naive.

 

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that Warren's been persuaded by certain people with a lot to lose to dog Bernie enough today to get a contested convention and potentially remain in the race as a spoiler for quite a while. Not as likely as Buttigieg/Klobuchar ensuring that the moderate vote wasn't split but still pretty likely.

 

This moment is the first and only time I'm glad Bloomberg is running, even if everyone working for him and liking him can be bought, he can't so at least there'll be some split on the other side of the aisle.

From reports I'm seeing, Warren got 9$ million out of agreeing to stay in the race until after super tuesday. That's all her morals and progressive policies cost. That's if we believe she really is a progressive.