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Bloody hell I can't believe this may be happening, though I'm trying to hold back any excitement as no doubt Trump will try and mess around with it in the courts.

With 94% counted Michigan is 49.4% Biden and 49.1% Trump.

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With 95% counted Wisconsin has 49.6% Biden and 48.9% Trump.

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Biden will be President no matter what happens in Pennsylvania.

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I think losing Arizona is what will almost certainly lost the election for Trump. Strange Trump did badly in the vote in Arizona but did rather well in neighbouring Nevada, but iirc Nevada has more coronavirus restrictions at the minute so maybe that's what drove anti covid restriction voters out to vote Trump in Nevada.

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It looks like it won't come down to Pennsylvania and Georgia which I am a bit sad about because I like an exciting election right to the end, but given there were suggestions of very high early voting turnout in Atlanta reported o er the last week or so I think Biden has an advantage there.

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If coronavirus didn't take place Trump probably would have won, BLM happening this year has also benefited Biden overall probably despite the fact the incidents of looting taking place would have had some benefit for Trump.

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With 94% counted Michigan is 49.4% Biden and 49.1% Trump.

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Looks like it will finish with a 1% or so lead for Biden because of the remaining postal votes likely leaning Democrat.

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I reckon Trump will, after persuasion from his party, see sense and concede defeat soon now it is looking highly unlikely the election will go down to Pennsylvania.

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I think losing Arizona is what will almost certainly lost the election for Trump. Strange Trump did badly in the vote in Arizona but did rather well in neighbouring Nevada, but iirc Nevada has more coronavirus restrictions at the minute so maybe that's what drove anti covid restriction voters out to vote Trump in Nevada.

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It looks like it won't come down to Pennsylvania and Georgia which I am a bit sad about because I like an exciting election right to the end, but given there were suggestions of very high early voting turnout in Atlanta reported o er the last week or so I think Biden has an advantage there.

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If coronavirus didn't take place Trump probably would have won, BLM happening this year has also benefited Biden overall probably despite the fact the incidents of looting taking place would have had some benefit for Trump.

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Isn't Arizona McCain's home state and he hated Trump?

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Looks like Biden has won it. The problem for Trump now is he doesn't have the votes to be able to ask the counters to stop voting, so he either needs to find a way to get already counted votes discounted or hope he finds a miracle somewhere.

Sky News saying that Nigel Farage is set to lose 10k if Biden wins. Has a Β£10,000 bet on Trump.

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Also they say 1.4 million postal votes still to count in Pennsylvania.

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Sky News saying that Nigel Farage is set to lose 10k if Biden wins. Has a Β£10,000 bet on Trump.

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Oh how sad.

Isn't Arizona McCain's home state and he hated Trump?

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That might have had an impact actually. Was Republican turnout poor in Arizona or what else might have made it a bit of an anomaly this time?

That might have had an impact actually. Was Republican turnout poor in Arizona or what else might have made it a bit of an anomaly this time?

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Yes and McCain's widow made an anti-Trump speech the other week. Seems that may have swung it for Biden.

Isn't Arizona McCain's home state and he hated Trump?

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Looks like Biden has won it. The problem for Trump now is he doesn't have the votes to be able to ask the counters to stop voting, so he either needs to find a way to get already counted votes discounted or hope he finds a miracle somewhere.

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Basically he's snookered. Down and out. Hope they take his belt and laces away from him.

Also they say 1.4 million postal votes still to count in Pennsylvania.

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Judging by Michigan and Wisconsin, it's going to be close there, I was inclined to think it may just about stay red because the polls were closer in PA than WI and MI, but now I think Trump isn't quite far enough ahead in Pennsylvania at the moment to counter balance that likely Democrat leaning massive postal vote and also according to CNN's coverage, a lot of it is in the Democrat leaning cities there anyway.

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Judging by Michigan and Wisconsin, it's going to be close there, I was inclined to think it may just about stay red because the polls were closer in PA than WI and MI, but now I think Trump isn't quite far enough ahead in Pennsylvania at the moment to counter balance that likely Democrat leaning massive postal vote.

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Yep Biden may take all three yet.

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Basically he's snookered. Down and out. Hope they take his belt and laces away from him.

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He is, but if you check Twitter all of the leading Alt-Right are already meddling the election fraud myth and blaming social media (ironically missing the big part, that is probably helped Trump win in 2016). So it will losing, without actually losing. All typical Trumpism tactics really. Farage is saying the UK has a huge problem with voting fraud.. the greatest fake news there ever was.

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The Republicans need to decide what sort of party they want to be again as you just know he is going to run again in 2024.

The Republicans need to decide what sort of party they want to be again as you just know he is going to run again in 2024.

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He may run but I doubt he'd get the nomination. They won't risk him again against Biden or Harris.

He is, but if you check Twitter all of the leading Alt-Right are already meddling the election fraud myth and blaming social media (ironically missing the big part, that is probably helped Trump win in 2016). So it will losing, without actually losing. All typical Trumpism tactics really. Farage is saying the UK has a huge problem with voting fraud.. the greatest fake news there ever was.

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The Republicans need to decide what sort of party they want to be again as you just know he is going to run again in 2024.

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I can't get Fox News as I have virgin media but I wonder what they are saying at the moment?

He may run but I doubt he'd get the nomination. They won't risk him again against Biden or Harris.

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If Trump ends up winning Georgia and Pennsylvania and so the electoral college finishes with only a very narrow Biden win then they may nominate him or Ivanka/Eric/Donald Jr again in 2014. They may blame covid on his narrow election loss.

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If Trump loses Georgia and Pennsylvania that's quite a sound defeat of Trumpism and I doubt they would nominate anyone from the Trump family in 2024.

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