January 31, 20205 yr I think this confirms that Silas was reet and the UK will never rejoin the EU, as its constituent parts will instead. Englabd may never join again, or at least for 100 years or so, and may just relish in its misery and stubbornly continue as a us vassal state. Brexshitters selling our independence to the US and turning us into a vassal state is just delicious irony! We lost our independence. We now run around with a begging cap and exist as America's full vassal. This is what happens when you ignore your continent as a small country without autarchy, and cut every single trade deal you have, in a globalised world. We warned you!! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/j...825T8bG-lIdH6U8 Scotland will not stick around for this. As Scotland and NI leave, the new UK will be even weaker and even more dependent on trade deal scraps from the big players around the table, and even more dependent on the USA.
January 31, 20205 yr Author I think this confirms that Silas was reet and the UK will never rejoin the EU, as its constituent parts will instead. Englabd may never join again, or at least for 100 years or so, and may just relish in its misery and stubbornly continue as a us vassal state. Brexshitters selling our independence to the US and turning us into a vassal state is just delicious irony! We lost our independence. We now run around with a begging cap and exist as America's full vassal. This is what happens when you ignore your continent as a small country without autarchy, and cut every single trade deal you have, in a globalised world. We warned you!! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/j...825T8bG-lIdH6U8 Scotland will not stick around for this. As Scotland and NI leave, the new UK will be even weaker and even more dependent on trade deal scraps from the big players around the table, and even more dependent on the USA. Since when did you start believing opinion polls - you didn't before the GE... :lol: BTW, can't you try to make one post without the use of hyperbole? Edited January 31, 20205 yr by vidcapper
January 31, 20205 yr Opinion polls have always downplayed yes before now, so that is even more reason to believe them when they have a slight lead for it. It also matches the anecdotal evidence from Scotland about how massive the yes movement is now. You brexit lot have ended the UK. Congratulations. It's now inevitable that it will break up. Don't say we didn't warn you. We did. Many, many, many times. Also, how will denying the English and Welsh people freedom of movement work well after Scotland goes indie? There will be a brand new border - and a particularly long one at that. It'll likely be a soft border too, which means that anyone who wants to visit England can do so via Scotland. Also, imagine the flood of remainers pouring into Scotland, further weakening England with another brain drain. What do you make of that?
January 31, 20205 yr If more and more opinion polls start showing a clearer lead for pro-independence, it would be completely un-democratic to refuse a second referendum to take place. I personally would prefer to wait a little longer for a point where it seems fairly certain Yes would win, as if No wins again it'll be a huge embarrassment for the SNP. Exactly.
January 31, 20205 yr Author Opinion polls have always downplayed yes before now, so that is even more reason to believe them when they have a slight lead for it. It also matches the anecdotal evidence from Scotland about how massive the yes movement is now. You brexit lot have ended the UK. Congratulations. It's now inevitable that it will break up. Don't say we didn't warn you. We did. Many, many, many times. Also, how will denying the English and Welsh people freedom of movement work well after Scotland goes indie? There will be a brand new border - and a particularly long one at that. It'll likely be a soft border too, which means that anyone who wants to visit England can do so via Scotland. Also, imagine the flood of remainers pouring into Scotland, further weakening England with another brain drain. What do you make of that? What I make of it, is you doing your usual tactic of predicting the worst possible consequences, with little evidence other than your own opinions.
January 31, 20205 yr What I make of it, is you doing your usual tactic of predicting the worst possible consequences, with little evidence other than your own opinions. Except for the fact that it is highly likely now. So what do you make of it?
January 31, 20205 yr @Michael - our border with little England is actually quite short and there are very few actual crossing points. Compared to the intra-Ireland border it’s very easy to deal with Should Scotland be an independent country? (YouGov, 22nd-27th January 2020): Yes 51% (+7) No 49% (-7) 49 years and under: 65% Yes 35% No For the coffin dodgers it’s 75% No. proving yet again the walking dead are holding back our country from those who will actually be alive long enough to live with the consequences. By pure demographics alone, Scotland will vote to become independent within the next 10 years. The end of the UK is here.
January 31, 20205 yr Author Except for the fact that it is highly likely now. So what do you make of it? Can you put a probability figure on your worst case scenario?
January 31, 20205 yr By pure demographics alone, Scotland will vote to become independent within the next 10 years. The end of the UK is here. They can only vote yes if they get a vote though. It'll need a new PM as Boris adamant he's not going to allow one whilst he's in charge.
January 31, 20205 yr They can only vote yes if they get a vote though. It'll need a new PM as Boris adamant he's not going to allow one whilst he's in charge. We now live in a one party story state. Of course the wannabe dictator refuses more democracy! I wouldn't be surprised if he gets rid of thr fixed terms act and calls a "brexshit celebratory election" whilst riding even higher. Gross. Also, that's my average scenario. My worst case scenario is FAR worse.
January 31, 20205 yr Aye and he was adamant he’d die in a ditch rather than leave the EU on 31st January instead of 31st October and *checks notes* we leave on 31/1 and he isnae dead in a ditch. Get your head out his arse and wake up
January 31, 20205 yr I DARE SNP MPS TO DO A SINN FEIN AND FOLLOW WORDS WITH DEEDS BY WALKING OUT OF WESTMINSTER!!!
January 31, 20205 yr By pure demographics alone, Scotland will vote to become independent within the next 10 years. The end of the UK is here. Indeed, and it is sad for me personally and not something that I particularly celebrate because I did used to believe in the union and the UK as a state. No longer.
January 31, 20205 yr I DARE SNP MPS TO DO A SINN FEIN AND FOLLOW WORDS WITH DEEDS BY WALKING OUT OF WESTMINSTER!!! It leaves one Red Tory, 4 Orange Tories and 6 actual Tories as Scotland’s voice in the alleged union of equals. They get treated poorly but I hope they remain for every last second of Scotland imprisonment in this “union” and causing as much agro as they can in the meantime. Indeed, and it is sad for me personally and not something that I particularly celebrate because I did used to believe in the union and the UK as a state. No longer. I get where you’re coming from. 6 years ago I firmly believed in a DevoMax style solution that had the benefits of the UK, our continued EU membership and allowed Scotland more control to flourish. I now accept that only the South East of England can flourish in our union and these past 6 years have shown that Scotland and England want a different future. A substantial minority in England want the same future as the substantial majority in Scotland, and for them I am truly sorry. However, they will always be welcome in Scotland. Come on up, the kettles oan
January 31, 20205 yr Always wondered what the difference between Scottish and Irish nationalism is? Maybe they are just different nations completely?!
January 31, 20205 yr being flippant, Scottish nationalism is a bit less shooty/bomby than Irish nationalism! I think both countries have a fundamentally different relationship with England that drives the nationalist movements. For Ireland my understanding is that it was a more overt and systematic oppression but Scotland’s was more by stealth and was enabled by the upper echelons of Scottish Society. We almost oppressed ourselves - “the Scottish cringe” comes to mind - and wilfully participated until we realised the wool had been pulled over our eyes. Y’all fought from the start, as we initially did, but y’all never gave up and I respect that.
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