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One by election poll for Wakefield has Labour with TWENTY points ahead of Tories 48-28. Considering it's a very Brexity town - 2 to 1 were in favour of leaving EU, that's very impressive if Labour win the seat with anything like that kind of lead and would give Johnson a real scare.
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According to the Bookies and word on the ground, Tories should lose both by elections today....of course Johnson has said he won't resign but hope that does enough for more manoeuvres against him Hope when I wake up to use the loo during night cam go to bed a bit happier

 

All Governments become unpopular and lose mid-term by elections. This is nothing new. The Tories will be returned to power with an increased majority in 2024. I'm confident of it. They'd be foolish to dump Boris too as he's a proven vote winner.
All Governments become unpopular and lose mid-term by elections. This is nothing new. The Tories will be returned to power with an increased majority in 2024. I'm confident of it. They'd be foolish to dump Boris too as he's a proven vote winner.

 

I'd be be pretty confident in saying there is absolutely no way the Tories will increase their majority in 2024 :lol:

All Governments become unpopular and lose mid-term by elections. This is nothing new. The Tories will be returned to power with an increased majority in 2024. I'm confident of it. They'd be foolish to dump Boris too as he's a proven vote winner.

 

They say a week is a long time in politics, try two and a half years.

 

That was then, a lot has happened since and he's now a poisoned chalice for them. As for increasing their majority in 2024... :lol:

RESULTS:

 

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Wakefield numbers:

LAB 13,166

CON 8,241

IND 2,090

YOR 1,182

 

Greens, Reform and Lib Dems all with 500. Northern Independence second last with 84 ahead of everyone's least favourite perennial fash with 23.

 

Very good gain for Labour but it gets better:

 

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Tiverton & Honiton numbers:

 

LIB 22,357

CON 16,393

LAB 1,562

GRE 1,064

REF 481

 

The Conservatives losing almost 20,000 votes again in a seat that has voted blue since the dawn of time! Excellent work, I think, as Ed Davey said, he's going to need a bigger hammer.

 

Turnout for T&H was huge for a by-election, 72% of general election numbers.

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The Tory Party Chair Oliver Dowden has resigned. In his letter he offered continuing support for the party but, unusually for a resignation letter, not Johnson himself.
Really? Wow Dowden is one of the most odious, sycophantic, borderline far right assholes in the party. I know there are quite a lot of then mind!
Really? Wow Dowden is one of the most odious, sycophantic, borderline far right assholes in the party. I know there are quite a lot of then mind!

 

He was previously very loyal to Johnson too. I suspect as many have commentated before, lots of the Tory MPs in safe seats will start getting itcy bums as wile the Lib Dems don't have the resources to compete on a large scale in a general election, there will be a handful of seats they will go after. And it looks like Labour & Lib Dems may at least work somewhat strategically together behind closed doors.

Great results. The Lib Dems swing is amazing. I hope at the next GE that Labour and Lib Dems make an alliance. They could both gain quite well if they did.

 

Boris still not resigning :lol: Not complaining though. The longer he stays the more damage he'll continue to do.

GET THE EVIL TOEIES OUR AND THAT VILE SLIME BLOJO, WHO SHOULD NEVER EVEE HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE CLOSE TO DOWNING STREET EEEEVER IN HISTOEY, LET ALONE BE PM!!!

 

I love the karma though. Neolibwral extreme centrists and Tories teñling us what would happen undee Corbyn ... and all they claimed would happen is happening under that VILE DETESTABLE BEAST'S refime :rofl: :rofl:

Some great news to wake up to, and canceling out the other significant news at least! I really hope Johnson can stay on now, this is becoming pretty funny to watch.

This being Labour's first gain in a by-election since 2012, lord

 

Better late than never.

Excellent results in both by-elections. Tories will certainly lose their working majority at next GE particularly if Johnson stays which I hope he does despite the fact I despise him.

Yes and both Tory candidates were pretty odious (actually pretty standard for their party).

 

Both seats voted for Brexit especially Wakefield (which I thought would be closer and happy to admit I was wrong) and the architect has been roundly told to get packing!

Still think the tories will win the next GE though unfort, Boris will just hold out to the full five years so things will have moved on enough for the average idiot voter to forget the parties and realise Starmer hasn’t offered anything so we will be in 1992 territory imo.
Yes please do give us Tory cope, I'd love to see them convince themselves that nothing is wrong so they can sleepwalk into electoral oblivion.

Boris has said that he intends to remain leader and win the next election and the one after that and stay PM in to the 2030's. So there you have it folks. Think positive Boris.

 

 

EDIT. There was apparently fury in the Tory party after his remarks and he's now been forced to say he was joking. :rolleyes:

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