Interesting documentary on Forever, its making and campaign...

Edited November 13Nov 13 by Mr.X

FOREVER UK charts

Vinyl album chart - #22

Sales album chart - #47

Physical album chart - #45

Scottish album chart - #92

Estimated at roughly 500 copies without counting streaming units. Only sales info so far is K-pop Demon Hunters did 382 vinyl sales to be #37 on the vinyl album chart.

For a release that was essentially a new variant of a 5 year-old vinyl with no new songs, no other accompanying CD, cassette, digital release or variant, and got literally 0 promo, it did well I think!!!

Edited November 15Nov 15 by Mr.X

If the label had done more and released a picture disc, CD and download - with even just a couple of bonus tracks on it - then perhaps it could have charted! It usually takes about 1300 sales to make the Top 200.

Forever is one of the worst albums ever. It will never chart again.

do we remember how it charted in 2020 for the 20th anniversary?

EDIT: Just found out:

#15 Vinyl charts,

#78 on physical charts

#66 on download charts

#73 on Album Sales Charts

#83 on Scottish Charts

#77 on the Album Charts

So, really not that bad considering it all actually! Could have done wonders with a better release for sure!

Edited November 15Nov 15 by Mr.X

1 hour ago, BooYouWhorelock said:

Forever is one of the worst albums ever. It will never chart again.

People who dislike Forever are so ugly, it's sad!

15 minutes ago, Mr.X said:

People who dislike Forever are so ugly, it's sad!

It's atrocious, bottom drawer, borimg, plodding rnb by pop singers

5 hours ago, BooYouWhorelock said:

It's atrocious, bottom drawer, borimg, plodding rnb by pop singers

5 hours ago, Mr.X said:

People who dislike Forever are so ugly, it's sad!

Edited November 15Nov 15 by Mr.X

On 12/11/2025 at 18:10, Mr.X said:

Interesting documentary on Forever, its making and campaign...

I just got around to watching this, and it's good!

I like these retrospective videos that examine the era from several angles. Too often, Forever's commercial failure gets blamed firstly on the change in musical direction...and secondly, on the absence of Geri. This video hits those angles...but it also takes on what is (to me) the most important factor; the group's lack of support for the project. The group's reinvention was a gamble...so if there was any chance of pulling it off, it was going to take the group's full commitment. And...

Anyway. This video's honest about it. And I also liked how it used the physical releases. A few things showed up in there I hadn't seen before. They were mostly press materials/promotional items...but cool to see anything with the FOREVER logo, really, since the era was so neglected.

On 15/11/2025 at 22:15, Piers said:

I just got around to watching this, and it's good!

I like these retrospective videos that examine the era from several angles. Too often, Forever's commercial failure gets blamed firstly on the change in musical direction...and secondly, on the absence of Geri. This video hits those angles...but it also takes on what is (to me) the most important factor; the group's lack of support for the project. The group's reinvention was a gamble...so if there was any chance of pulling it off, it was going to take the group's full commitment. And...

Anyway. This video's honest about it. And I also liked how it used the physical releases. A few things showed up in there I hadn't seen before. They were mostly press materials/promotional items...but cool to see anything with the FOREVER logo, really, since the era was so neglected.

That was the main issue with Forever and I agree. People often blame it on the r-n-b flavour of the album and how bad the press around it was (and it was, to be fair to them) but the change of image and sound really needed them to back it up and they didn't.

We know by the girls themselves (and Mel C's own admission) that she said she wasn't going to be promoting the album as much. That definitely took a toll. Of course, she had her health reasons but she was also very clearly over the band. Her lack of 'availability' and attitude towards both the band and the album really cemented how they were over-over, because the others also took the time to do their solo projects since Mel C's demands meant they were not going to be so busy anymore with the group. So Emma, Victoria and Mel B took on solo projects full-on as well. HELL, by the time Holler was released, Emma was still doing TV presenting and already talking about her album being out in Spring 2001, Mel B was releasing and promoting her solo album during Forever's campaign, and Victoria was busy all summer with Out of Your Mind and also working on her own album. Mel C did a solo show at WEMBLEY ARENA, her biggest ever, the night before the Forever launch party...

A mess... For a group that made their name about being a close unit and friends to the end, they showed up really not united. The very promo of the album was done in pairs of two, or even one, even when they were in the same building. How crazy is that?....

Being hated by the press and public isn't new for them. They had fought against that and won many times since Fuller was fired and Geri leaving, consistently getting #1s, selling out tours, winning the Outstanding Brit Award... They could have turned it around if they really focused.

Edited November 17Nov 17 by Mr.X

The 25th anniversary vinyl came today and it is literally the same vinyl package from 20th anniversary design just with the red and black marble vinyl inside and the new postcards...

What a wasted opportunity... I bought it out of pity/collection purposes and now I feel somewhat scammed lol

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Nice review of Forever and its legacy: https://www.theaureview.com/music/forever-25-years-later/

You mean its flopacy x