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I see Watermelon Sugar is back on Hot Hits UK which is surprising as they don’t often playlist post album singles.

They removed "Falling" and added "Watermelon Sugar". Suprising is that Falling never was in the top 30 on Hot Hits despite being the top 15 hit. I hope Watermelon will not stuck at this low position. It is exploding on Spotify already.

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Glad they are pushing ‘Watermelon Sugar’ always though it was wasted as a promo single as it always sounded to me like a big hit. Harry’s team have done well with this album as it looks like he’s going get 4 decent sized hits.
'Watermelon Sugar' was already a decent sized hit even before this so it's practically 5 lol ~
Does indeed look like they've been combined but weirdly the total play counts are still different on Spotify (normally when these alternate versions get combined the play count for the remix alone is no longer viewable).

 

It's not unprecedented for them to combine remixes like this though, they did this with 'bad guy' for example.

I expect the playcounts will get combined when they next update (later today); I think when versions are suddenly combined or split, that usually shows in the charts before the playcounts, for whatever reason. I've seen it before with a fake version of 'Ric Flair Drip' for example.

 

I don't believe 'bad guy' was ever combined though? You can see a full separate run for the Justin Bieber version. Some remixes that are combined include:

 

Nathan Sykes - Over And Over Again (with or without Ariana Grande)

Taio Cruz - Break Your Heart (with or without Ludacris)

Nick Jonas - Jealous (with or without Tinashe)

Swedish House Mafia - One / One (Your Name) (with or without Pharrell)

Sam Smith - Lay Me Down (the John Legend version and the solo 2015 single version, but not the solo album version)

Shawn Mendes - Lost In Japan (original and Zedd version), though they were separate for the first few months (spot when it changed)

Troye Sivan - WILD (with or without Alessia Cara), though they were also separate for the first few months

 

And some have been previously combined, for example:

 

Sia - The Greatest (with or without Kendrick Lamar) - when the solo version came out (via the deluxe album; the Kendrick version was released as a single prior), they were combined for 2 months, which is very visible in their runs (Kendrick, solo). The solo version probably got a lot of unintentional plays, as it happened to be the one that got listed on the charts while they were combined. Additionally in Australia (it may not have been the case elsewhere), they deleted the (Kendrick-inclusive) single - so if you had the single in a playlist (or were playing from Today's Top Hits, which did), normally it'd go fetch the same track from the album to play, but because the system considered the 2 versions to be the same track, it would just pick one of the 2 thinking they're the same, and the solo version happened to be the one it chose.

Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee - Despacito (with or without Justin Bieber) - I remember them getting combined for about 2 days, mid-#1 run

A Great Big World - Say Something (with or without Christina Aguilera)

Sam Feldt - Show Me Love (original radio edit and EDX remix radio edit)

Drake - Fake Love (2016 single version and 2017 album version) - I didn't think there was any difference between them, but they suddenly got split in 2018 (long after the single version had been deleted when the album came out!), leaving them with 332m plays for the single version and 271m for the album version, the former of which stayed steady since it had no plays to gain, while the latter tried to catch up; this remained so for months, somehow, before someone noticed and got them re-combined. It's one of the strangest cases I've seen.

 

I assume what determines whether versions are combined or not is to do with behind-the-scenes metadata, but I've long felt that versions are more likely to be combined if the track lengths are about the same. For example, with 'One (Your Name)' that I mentioned above - the 2 versions' radio edits are combined (140m plays), and likewise for their original mixes (38m plays), as opposed to the split being between the 2 Pharrell and 2 non-Pharrell versions. With 'Lay Me Down', the 2 combined versions are 3:39-3:40 (and the old pre-album 2013 single version which is technically combined with them too, even though I'm not sure if it's still available anywhere, is 3:49), while the separate solo album version is 4:13. But this isn't universal; for example, Gerry Rafferty's 'Baker Street' has its 6-minute album version and 4-minute edit combined, so there's no objective criteria we can see. And once in a blue moon, you can get the truly bizarre - there was a time in 2016 where Akon's 'I Wanna Love You' and Mario Winans' 'I Don't Wanna Know' had their plays combined.

This has finally made the top 30 on Apple Music this week, social media-related as everything that climbs these days

 

26 +2 Natalie Taylor - Surrender

 

new Ellie is also doing pretty well on Apple Music, much better than on Spotify, where she's no longer top 200

63 +6 Ellie Goulding - Power

The quality of Ellie Goulding's music isn't as consistent as it used to be but she can pull out a decent tune now and then. "Power" is good, hope it becomes a hit.
I expect the playcounts will get combined when they next update (later today); I think when versions are suddenly combined or split, that usually shows in the charts before the playcounts, for whatever reason.
Not that there's much reason for anyone to care, but this has happened FYI :P

 

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90k Gap between Gaga and DB?. Not good. Stupid HH ruined it.

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1 ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) by DaBaby 479,136

 

2 Rain On Me (with Ariana Grande) by Lady Gaga 392,112

 

I think the gap is enough if you consider how much Gaga did over the weekend on iTunes

 

other interesting moves

15 Watermelon Sugar

22 Breaking Me

32 Party Girl

51 Think About Things

1 ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) by DaBaby 479,136

 

2 Rain On Me (with Ariana Grande) by Lady Gaga 392,112

Gaga’s more than making up for it on iTunes and with the video.

I was pretty much 100% certain 'bad guy' was combined on Spotify as I specifically remembered it having a uniform huge spike in daily streams across the world coinciding with the remix release but just dug up the old thread from July 2019 and, amongst bickering about Ed Sheeran album tracks (:P), found that it was combined but only for a single day.
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Spotify Chart Update (24/05)

 

:right: 01 01 DaBaby – Rockstar (feat. Roddy Ricch) 479,136

:right: 02 02 Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande – Rain On Me 392,112

:right: 03 03 The Weeknd – Blinding Lights 354,524

:right: 04 04 Drake – Toosie Slide 294,708

:right: 05 05 Saint Jhn – Roses (Imanbek Remix) 287,524

:right: 06 06 S1mba – Rover (feat. DTG) 261,410

:right: 07 07 Powfu – Death Bed (Coffee For Your Head) (feat. Beabadoobee) 244,793

:up: 08 09 Lil Mosey – Blueberry Faygo 228,662

:down: 09 08 KSI – Houdini (feat. Swarmz & Tion Wayne) 227,666

:right: 10 10 AJ Tracey – Dinner Guest (feat. MoStack) 215,422

 

:right: 11 11 Dua Lipa – Break My Heart

:right: 12 12 Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber – Stuck With U

:right: 13 13 Aitch & AJ Tracey – Rain (feat. Tay Keith)

:up: 14 15 Nathan Dawe – Flowers (feat. Jaykae)

:up: 15 18 Harry Styles – Watermelon Sugar [*NEW PEAK*]

:right: 16 16 Joel Corry – Lonely

:down: 17 14 KSI – Killa Killa (feat. Aiyana-Lee)

:up: 18 19 Dua Lipa – Don't Start Now

:up: 19 20 Tones and I – Dance Monkey

:up: 20 21 The Scotts – The Scotts

 

:down: 21 17 KSI – Cap (feat. Offset)

:up: 22 25 Topic – Breaking Me (feat. A7S) [*NEW PEAK*]

:down: 23 22 Megan Thee Stallion – Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé) {#9 combined}

:right: 24 24 Roddy Ricch – The Box

:down: 25 23 6ix9ine – Gooba

:up: 26 27 Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved

:down: 27 26 Doja Cat – Say So (feat. Nicki Minaj) {#6 combined}

:up: 28 29 Benee – Supalonely (feat. Gus Dapperton)

:up: 29 32 Doja Cat – Say So

:up: 30 31 220 Kid & Gracey – Don't Need Love

 

:down: 31 28 KSI – Bad Lil Vibe (feat. Jeremih)

:up: 32 37 StaySolidRocky – Party Girl [*NEW PEAK*]

:up: 33 36 JP Saxe – If The World Was Ending (feat. Julia Michaels)

:up: 34 35 Harry Styles – Adore You

:down: 35 30 KSI – Millions

:up: 36 38 Dua Lipa – Physical

:up: 37 39 Lewis Capaldi – Before You Go

:down: 38 33 KSI – What You Been On

:up: 39 45 Sam Fischer – This City

:down: 40 34 KSI – Domain

 

:up: 46 47 Little Mix – Break Up Song

:up: 47 48 Doja Cat – Boss Bitch

:up: 48 49 The Weeknd – In Your Eyes

:up: 50 53 Surf Mesa – ily (I Love You Baby) (feat. Emilee)

:up: 51 58 Daði Freyr – Think About Things

:up: 54 65 Niko B – Who's That What's That [*NEW PEAK*]

:down: 56 54 PartyNextDoor – Believe It (feat. Rihanna)

:down: 58 55 Jack Harlow – Whats Poppin

:up: 60 61 Don Toliver – After Party

:up: 61 66 Regard & Raye – Secrets

:up: 73 74 Drake – Chicago Freestyle (feat. Giveon)

:up: 78 81 Marshmello & Halsey – Be Kind

:down: 80 59 The 1975 – Tonight (I Wish I Was Your Boy)

:up: 81 83 Juice WRLD – Righteous

:up: 83 84 Robbie Doherty & Keees. – Pour the Milk

:up: 91 97 Ava Max – Kings & Queens

:up: 92 98 Melanie Martinez – Play Date

:down: 93 79 The 1975 – If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)

:up: 96 104 Madison Beer – Selfish

:up: 100 118 Chris Brown & Young Thug – Go Crazy [*NEW PEAK*]

 

:down: 107 102 Katy Perry – Daisies

:up: 109 113 Sam Smith – I'm Ready (feat. Demi Lovato)

:up: 110 111 Kygo – Like It Is (feat. Zara Larsson & Tyga)

:down: 119 82 Fredo – Hickory Dickory Dock

:up: 121 125 Hosh & 1979 – Midnight (The Hanging Tree) (feat. Jalja)

:down: 123 99 Aitch – Raw

:up: 128 139 Twenty One Pilots – Level of Concern

:down: 139 115 Gunna – Wunna

:up: 147 154 Kygo – Lose Somebody (feat. OneRepublic)

:up: 154 158 Sleepy Hallow – Deep End Freestyle [*NEW PEAK*]

:up: 155 185 Jubël – Dancing In The Moonlight (feat. Neimy)

:up: 166 169 Headie One – Rose Gold

:up: 170 186 SL – Bad Luck

:down: 177 130 Gunna – Dollaz On My Head (feat. Young Thug)

:up: 181 184 Machine Gun Kelly – Bloody Valentine

:up: 183 196 Polo G – Flex (feat. Juice WRLD)

:right: 193 193 Future – Solitaires (feat. Travis Scott)

:re: 196 RE Martin Solveig & Roy Woods – Juliet & Romeo

 

:down: xx 151 Agust D – Daechwita

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Apple Music Chart Update (24/05)

 

:right: 01 01 DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch)

:right: 02 02 Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande - Rain On Me

:up: 03 04 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights

:down: 04 03 SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix)

:right: 05 05 S1mba - Rover (feat. DTG)

:right: 06 06 AJ Tracey - Dinner Guest (feat. MoStack)

:right: 07 07 Drake - Toosie Slide

:right: 08 08 Regard & RAYE - Secrets

:right: 09 09 Topic & A7S - Breaking Me

:up: 10 11 Nathan Dawe - Flowers (feat. Jaykae)

 

:down: 11 10 220 KID & GRACEY - Don’t Need Love

:right: 12 12 Tones And I - Dance Monkey

:right: 13 13 Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber - Stuck with U

:right: 14 14 Powfu - death bed (feat. beabadoobee) [coffee for your head]

:right: 15 15 Megan Thee Stallion - Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé)

:up: 16 20 Dua Lipa - Break My Heart

:up: 17 19 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now

:down: 18 16 Sam Fischer - This City

:up: 19 21 Stormzy - Own It (feat. Ed Sheeran & Burna Boy)

:down: 20 18 Aitch & AJ Tracey - Rain (feat. Tay Keith)

 

:down: 21 17 KSI - Houdini (feat. Swarmz & Tion Wayne)

:up: 22 24 Joel Corry - Lonely

:up: 23 30 Young T & Bugsey - Don't Rush (feat. Headie One)

:down: 24 23 Little Mix - Break Up Song

:up: 25 28 Natalie Taylor - Surrender

:down: 26 22 Drake - Chicago Freestyle (feat. Giveon)

:down: 27 26 Dua Lipa - Physical

:down: 28 25 Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo

:down: 29 27 Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy

:down: 30 29 Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar

 

:up: 31 34 HOSH & 1979 - Midnight (The Hanging Tree) [feat. Jalja]

:down: 32 31 PARTYNEXTDOOR & Rihanna - BELIEVE IT

:up: 33 36 Jax Jones, Martin Solveig, RAYE & Europa - Tequila

:down: 34 32 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go

:down: 35 33 Harry Styles - Falling

:up: 36 43 Doja Cat - Say So

:up: 37 42 Mabel - Boyfriend

:up: 38 39 Lady Gaga - Stupid Love

:down: 39 38 Martin Solveig & Roy Woods - Juliet & Romeo

:down: 40 35 Katy Perry - Daisies

 

:down: 44 40 JP Saxe - If the World Was Ending (feat. Julia Michaels)

:up: 49 50 Doja Cat - Say So (feat. Nicki Minaj)

:up: 51 65 Surf Mesa - ily (i love you baby) [feat. Emilee]

:down: 53 46 6ix9ine - GOOBA

:up: 56 59 StaySolidRocky - Party Girl

:down: 57 44 KSI - Cap (feat. Offset)

:up: 58 60 Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN

:up: 60 64 Doja Cat - Boss Bitch

:up: 61 66 Kygo, Zara Larsson & Tyga - Like It Is

:down: 62 48 KSI - Killa Killa (feat. Aiyana-Lee)

:down: 65 51 Gunna - DOLLAZ ON MY HEAD (feat. Young Thug)

:down: 68 67 MIST - House Party (feat. Fredo)

:up: 69 71 Ava Max - Kings & Queens

:down: 71 62 Aitch - Raw

:up: 73 75 THE SCOTTS, Travis Scott & Kid Cudi - THE SCOTTS

:down: 80 70 Gunna - WUNNA

:up: 84 92 Niko B - Who's That What's That

:up: 85 136 Kygo & OneRepublic - Lose Somebody

:up: 86 100 Daði Freyr - Think About Things

:down: 91 90 Don Toliver - After Party

:down: 93 91 Headie One - Rose Gold

:up: 95 101 Sam Smith & Demi Lovato - I'm Ready

 

:down: 102 95 The 1975 - If You’re Too Shy (Let Me Know)

:up: 109 119 Marshmello & Halsey - Be Kind

:down: 111 109 Disclosure - ENERGY (Edit)

:down: 112 103 Fredo - Hickory Dickory Dock

:up: 117 135 The 1975 - If You’re Too Shy (Let Me Know) [Edit]

:up: 123 150 Robbie Doherty & Keees. - Pour the Milk (Wilson & Smokin' Jack Hill Remix)

:down: 134 130 PS1 - Fake Friends (feat. Alex Hosking)

:down: 141 127 Polo G - Flex (feat. Juice WRLD)

:up: 156 160 IDPizzle - Dior (Remix)

:up: 182 193 Griff - Good Stuff

:down: 187 180 Maisie Peters - The List

:up: 195 208 Jonas Blue & Paloma Faith - Mistakes

So impressed at Think About Things doing so well, especially without Hot Hits support. It took Eurovision not to happen to have a hit from the contest that isn’t a one week wonder :lol: I think we’ll see a lot of Eurovision entrants next year trying to go down the viral dance route next year off the back of this.

 

So annoying though that he was under 50 plays away from the top 50 and the additional exposure that brings!

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