official chart, Friday:

#14 - Mariah Carey

#20 - Wham

#26 - The Pogues

#33 - Shakin' Stevens

#35 - Michael Bublé [it's Beginning..]

#38 - Band Aid

#46 - Kelly Clarkson

#48 - Justin Bieber [Amazon]

#49 - Elton John

#52 - Brenda Lee

#55 - Chris Rea

#61 - Wizzard

#63 - Jess Glynne [Amazon]

#69 - Slade

#72 - Leona Lewis

#79 - Andy Williams

#87 - Bobby Helms

#89 - John & Yoko

#90 - Paul McCartney

#91 - Michael Bublé [Holly Jolly..]

starred out (top 40) - Ariana Grande

(6 songs top 40, 20 songs top 100)

 

same week, last year:

#34 - Mariah Carey

#43 - Wham

#57 - Ellie Goulding

#59 - Little Mix

#71 - The Pogues

#77 - Band Aid

#79 - Ariana Grande

#82 - Shakin' Stevens

#87 - Michael Bublé

(1 song top 40, 9 songs top 100)

 

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official chart, midweek update:

#02 - Mariah Carey

#05 - Wham

#07 - The Pogues

#09 - Justin Bieber [Amazon]

#11 - Shakin' Stevens

#12 - Jess Glynne [Amazon]

#14 - Band Aid

#16 - Michael Bublé [it's Beginning..]

#17 - Elton John

#19 - Wizzard

#20 - Ariana Grande

#21 - Chris Rea

#24 - Kelly Clarkson

#25 - Slade

#26 - Brenda Lee

#34 - Leona Lewis

#35 - John & Yoko

#37 - Michael Bublé [Holly Jolly..]

#38 - Andy Williams

#42 - Paul McCartney

#43 - Justin Bieber [Mistletoe]

#44 - Bobby Helms

#54 - Liam Payne/Dixie D'Amelio

#56 - Coldplay

#57 - Kylie Minogue

#58 - Ronettes

#62 - Dean Martin

#65 - Jamie Cullum [Amazon]

#66 - Katy Perry

#67 - Sam Smith [Have Yourself..]

#70 - José Feliciano

#74 - Bing Crosby

#75 - The Darkness

#81 - Lily Allen

#83 - Sam Smith [Lighthouse Keeper]

#88 - Ellie Goulding

#89 - Sia

#90 - Meghan Trainor

#95 - Darlene Love

#96 - Carrie Underwood [Amazon]

#98 - Taylor Swift

#99 - Michael Bublé [santa Claus..]

(19 songs top 40, 42 songs top 100)

 

true Christmas chaos already! :mellow:

 

same week, last year:

#08 - Mariah Carey

#13 - Wham

#14 - Ellie Goulding

#22 - The Pogues

#23 - Band Aid

#26 - Shakin' Stevens

#32 - Michael Bublé

#33 - Ariana Grande

#39 - Elton John

#42 - Brenda Lee

#43 - Leona Lewis

#44 - Wizzard

#47 - Slade

#49 - Kelly Clarkson

#56 - Sia

#58 - Justin Bieber

#59 - Chris Rea

#61 - Andy Williams

#68 - John & Yoko

#73 - Bobby Helms

#75 - The Ronettes

#78 - Katy Perry

#79 - Michael Bublé [Holly Jolly]

#81 - Paul McCartney

#82 - Bing Crosby

#84 - Coldplay

#95 - East 17

#98 - Dean Martin

(9 songs top 40, 28 songs top 100)

 

following week, last year:

#06 - Mariah Carey

#07 - Wham

#08 - Ellie Goulding

#14 - The Pogues

#15 - Band Aid

#16 - Shakin' Stevens

#24 - Elton John

#25 - Michael Bublé

#29 - Leona Lewis

#31 - Ariana Grande

#32 - Brenda Lee

#34 - Wizzard

#36 - Slade

#39 - Kelly Clarkson

#41 - John Legend

#43 - Sia

#46 - Chris Rea

#50 - Andy Williams

#52 - Justin Bieber

#53 - Katy Perry

#56 - John & Yoko

#61 - Bobby Helms

#62 - Coldplay

#64 - Michael Bublé [Holly Jolly]

#67 - Bing Crosby

#70 - The Ronettes

#71 - Taylor Swift

#72 - Paul McCartney

#73 - Darlene Love

#81 - East 17

#84 - Dean Martin

#99 - Lily Allen

#100 - The Darkness

(14 songs top 40, 33 songs top 100)

 

I really think the OCC might strongly consider having a strict no old songs in the chart policy after this Christmas...

Liam Payne and Sam Smith the highest SCR non Amazon songs (unless you count Liam as an Xmas song)!

I really think the OCC might strongly consider having a strict no old songs in the chart policy after this Christmas...

They've got to do something, because if they don't then there'll come a time where the entire Top 40 is Christmas songs. I'm sure there's some people that would love that but personally I can't think of anything worse!

Jamie Cullum coming for his first charting single in 11 years :cheer:

Is the Amazon exclusive separate from his Christmas album?

They've got to do something, because if they don't then there'll come a time where the entire Top 40 is Christmas songs. I'm sure there's some people that would love that but personally I can't think of anything worse!

 

I don't think it's a problem myself, if that's genuinely what the masses are listening to then that's what the charts are there for, to reflect current popularity. There's still gonna be the odd massive non-Xmas hit like Dance Monkey last year which will fend off most of the Xmas songs which will all distil each other.

 

Plus when you bring in a rule axing old songs, think of the outcry when a huge star passes away and none of their songs are allowed to re-enter the chart. Would like to hear Scott Mills' explain that one on the show!

They will likely just make a Christmas chart and ban Xmas songs from it though. But I thought they would do that years ago!

People have been predicting this for years, it's not going to happen.

They will likely just make a Christmas chart and ban Xmas songs from it though. But I thought they would do that years ago!

So what constitutes a Christmas song?

"Last Christmas", sure, but what about "Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow"? It doesn't mention Christmas, unlike "I Just Called To Say I Love You", which does. B-)

Edited December 1, 20204 yr by house.martin

Taylor Swift's Lover would also have to be excluded if it ever re-entered for whatever reason :heehee:

It would also be super unfair on new Christmas songs. OCC has been so desperately trying to keep up with Billboard in the last few years that they might as well just add a recurrents chart.

They've got to do something, because if they don't then there'll come a time where the entire Top 40 is Christmas songs. I'm sure there's some people that would love that but personally I can't think of anything worse!

 

If they do that they might as well just dissolve the charts and have a Pop, R&B, K-POP etc chart.

 

The charts are meant to be a reflection of what people are buying and listening too and if that’s ‘Christmas’ songs then that’s the charts.

If that's what the masses are consuming so be it. The creation of an Xmas or Holiday chart would still not justify banishing Xmas song from the singles chart.

Just let it happen, it’s still a reflection of what people are listening to. Who cares if it’s the same songs every year? Artists should make a new hit for the charts

Just to be clear I like it as it is I just think if it becomes overwhelming every year from late November like this year they might do something. New Xmas songs obviously would be eligible to chart!

23 potentially this week,

As many that will fit.

So everyone who is claiming the chart should reflect what people are listening to are in favour of radio play being incorporated into the chart I assume?

Could be 35/40 on Xmas week

official chart, Friday:

#02 - Mariah Carey

#03 - Wham

#08 - The Pogues

#13 - Michael Bublé [it's Beginning..]

#14 - Shakin' Stevens

#15 - Band Aid

#16 - Ariana Grande

#18 - Elton John

#19 - Brenda Lee

#20 - Kelly Clarkson

#21 - Justin Bieber [Amazon]

#22 - Chris Rea

#23 - Wizzard

#28 - Jess Glynne [Amazon]

#32 - Slade

#33 - Leona Lewis

#36 - Andy Williams

#37 - Michael Bublé [Holly Jolly..]

#38 - Bobby Helms

#39 - Paul McCartney

#40 - John & Yoko

#43 - Justin Bieber [Mistletoe]

#51 - Ronettes

#54 - Dean Martin

#57 - Kylie Minogue

#58 - Liam Payne/Dixie D'Amelio

#59 - José Feliciano

#72 - Coldplay

#73 - Katy Perry

#75 - Sam Smith [Have Yourself..]

#78 - Bing Crosby

#82 - The Darkness

#96 - Sia

#98 - Darlene Love

#99 - Meghan Trainor

#100 - Jamie Cullum [Amazon]

(21 songs top 40, 36 songs top 100)

 

same week, last year:

#08 - Mariah Carey

#13 - Wham

#14 - Ellie Goulding

#22 - The Pogues

#23 - Band Aid

#26 - Shakin' Stevens

#32 - Michael Bublé

#33 - Ariana Grande

#39 - Elton John

#42 - Brenda Lee

#43 - Leona Lewis

#44 - Wizzard

#47 - Slade

#49 - Kelly Clarkson

#56 - Sia

#58 - Justin Bieber

#59 - Chris Rea

#61 - Andy Williams

#68 - John & Yoko

#73 - Bobby Helms

#75 - The Ronettes

#78 - Katy Perry

#79 - Michael Bublé [Holly Jolly]

#81 - Paul McCartney

#82 - Bing Crosby

#84 - Coldplay

#95 - East 17

#98 - Dean Martin

(9 songs top 40, 28 songs top 100)

 

following week, last year:

#06 - Mariah Carey

#07 - Wham

#08 - Ellie Goulding

#14 - The Pogues

#15 - Band Aid

#16 - Shakin' Stevens

#24 - Elton John

#25 - Michael Bublé

#29 - Leona Lewis

#31 - Ariana Grande

#32 - Brenda Lee

#34 - Wizzard

#36 - Slade

#39 - Kelly Clarkson

#41 - John Legend

#43 - Sia

#46 - Chris Rea

#50 - Andy Williams

#52 - Justin Bieber

#53 - Katy Perry

#56 - John & Yoko

#61 - Bobby Helms

#62 - Coldplay

#64 - Michael Bublé [Holly Jolly]

#67 - Bing Crosby

#70 - The Ronettes

#71 - Taylor Swift

#72 - Paul McCartney

#73 - Darlene Love

#81 - East 17

#84 - Dean Martin

#99 - Lily Allen

#100 - The Darkness

(14 songs top 40, 33 songs top 100)