September 10, 2024Sep 10 But what does this actually accomplish? You've still got the same state of things just with the numbers tinkered around. As I was kind of saying in my previous post, what's the significant distinction between studio albums & greatest hits that the latter needs to be punished? Because the latter has an easier time charting despite there being less intrinsic attachment to it as a product because it's not an individual artistic statement? If that's the case, then they're already punished by the fact that surely less people will buy them (ignoring the fact that people do still buy them). But for instance, Olivia Rodrigo's "SOUR" received (according to kworb) 6.4 million streams yesterday. The least popular track is "hope ur ok" and that had 130 thousand streams. Even if absolutely nobody streamed that one song on its own, that's at most about a quarter of its streams coming from full listens. In reality, it's probably way less. Any studio album with legs on the chart is going to be subject to the same sort of cherry-picking as a Greatest Hits album. This is all just the nature of the attention & listening cycle nowadays. I'm yet to see a 'solution' that doesn't just create a different status quo to get bored and annoyed with. I don't know what the solution is. My only really annoyance is with the way streams are associated with up to two albums and a single. The big one there is the two albums issue, as the single's chart should (correctly) track consumption of all songs, it's not really fair for streams to count towards and album and a greatest hits, as that then uses the spaces of r two listens on the chart when the person only listened to the track once.
September 10, 2024Sep 10 Author I proposed a solution in the OP to this thread and I stand by it still: MY PROPOSAL: - streams count towards the album.. they are being streamed from and not the highest selling greatest hits - at least ~75% of an album should be streamed in order for it to count towards sales - make the ratio less if they want to continue inflating sales to make them seem healthy with the two proposed ideas above Albums are an art form. As a society we are super interested in the value of art and the success of it and it's the same here!
September 10, 2024Sep 10 Personally just keep streams to songs only, if albums sales are low then that's it. The album chart doesn't really matter anymore.
September 10, 2024Sep 10 and what happens when you don't stream from an album? cos the majority of people don't stream Oasis-Time Flies, they either stream This is Oasis playlist or the top 10 songs from the artist page... and same for current albums, Sabrina has 3 songs on HH so those count a lot of streams for her album
September 10, 2024Sep 10 Author and what happens when you don't stream from an album? cos the majority of people don't stream Oasis-Time Flies, they either stream This is Oasis playlist or the top 10 songs from the artist page... and same for current albums, Sabrina has 3 songs on HH so those count a lot of streams for her album Who are you asking this question to? If it's directed at me, my proposal would mean these don't count towards album sales because ~75% of the album needs to be streamed in a chart week to contribute as a sale. They'd only count if the user also streams several other songs from the same album within the chart week. The song contributes to the album that the song is from. Even on the This Is Oasis playlist, songs from albums are included on it so I'm confused by your question :unsure: if you click on the individual song you can "view album" which takes you to the album that version is taken from.
September 10, 2024Sep 10 I reckon what we'd find out is what we already knew, K-Pop fans are the most dedicated fans, and whether deliberately or by nature, they'd flood the album chart and people would find new ways to say it doesn't count because it doesn't fit their personal narrative of what *should* be the most popular albums.
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