Posted January 23, 20223 yr From Wall Street Journal. A perfect storm in the Democratic Party is making a once-unfathomable scenario plausible: a political comeback for Hillary Clinton in 2024. :o Several circumstances—President Biden’s low approval rating, doubts over his capacity to run for re-election at 82, Vice President Kamala Harris’s unpopularity, and the absence of another strong Democrat to lead the ticket in 2024—have created a leadership vacuum in the party, which Mrs. Clinton viably could fill. She is already in an advantageous position to become the 2024 Democratic nominee. She is an experienced national figure who is younger than Mr. Biden and can offer a different approach from the disorganized and unpopular one the party is currently taking. If Democrats lose control of Congress in 2022, Mrs. Clinton can use the party’s loss as a basis to run for president again, enabling her to claim the title of “change candidate.” Based on her latest public statements, it’s clear that Mrs. Clinton not only recognizes her position as a potential front-runner but also is setting up a process to help her decide whether or not to run for president again. She recently warned of the electoral consequences in the 2022 midterms if the Democratic Party continues to align itself with its progressive wing and urged Democrats to reject far-left positions that isolate key segments of the electorate. I'd love to see Clinton v Trump again. Still think Biden will be re-elected though. Hillary will never give up wanting the Presidency until she takes her last breath. Edited January 23, 20223 yr by cider man
January 23, 20223 yr Hilary won't stand in 2024. Neither will Trump. Or Bernie. I don't even think Biden will make it to the end of his term, either through stepping down or meeting one's maker. I'm sure both parties have at least one person aged less than 70 that they can put up instead.
January 23, 20223 yr Nina Turner would be an acceptable alternative, or AOC, with Bernie as VP. But preferably the original, Mr. Senator From Vermont!
January 23, 20223 yr Give it up, sis. You had your chance to stop him and you couldn't, so you no longer serve any purpose. Would love AOC to be the nominee so much, my dream candidate in every possible aspect. Edited January 23, 20223 yr by Tawdry Hepburn
January 23, 20223 yr Author Hilary won't stand in 2024. Neither will Trump. Or Bernie. I don't even think Biden will make it to the end of his term, either through stepping down or meeting one's maker. I'm sure both parties have at least one person aged less than 70 that they can put up instead. If Biden doesn't run then Harris will. She'd be in a far far better position as President than VP though.
January 23, 20223 yr Shes good, BUT a little cosy with the DNC establishment, which is never a good sign. Nina Turner would be better, and Bernie is the holy grail of candidates!! He and Corbyn are the greatest politicians of the age.
January 23, 20223 yr If Biden doesn't run then Harris will. She'd be in a far far better position as President than VP though. I'm not even 100% convinced that Kamala Harris will be Vice President come 2024, let alone president.
January 23, 20223 yr Author Would love AOC to be the nominee so much, my dream candidate in every possible aspect. Me too but think she may wait another election. Still rather young. She's definitely one to watch though..
January 23, 20223 yr Author I'm not even 100% convinced that Kamala Harris will be Vice President come 2024, let alone president. Really? Well if Biden snuffs it then she'll be President. Is that what you mean?
January 23, 20223 yr Author Kamala got I think 2% at the primaries? She isn't running as president. No but if Joe dies in office or resigns she'd be President and in a good position as the sitting President in 2024. Usually unopposed in their own party. I hope he resigns say later this year or next. Edited January 23, 20223 yr by cider man
January 23, 20223 yr Really? Well if Biden snuffs it then she'll be President. Is that what you mean? I wouldn't rule out the Democratic head honchos replacing her as Vice-President before 2024, because they couldn't see her being elected in 2024 if Joe Biden doesn't make it until then.
January 23, 20223 yr No but if Joe dies in office or resigns she'd be President and in a good position as the sitting President in 2024. Usually unopposed in their own party. I hope he resigns say later this year or next. Um, no. The left wing was right, and the centrist corporate democrats have failed YET AGAIN. They will challenge Biden at the primaries, let alone Kamala, who is unpopular with the Democratic base!
January 23, 20223 yr Author I wouldn't rule out the Democratic head honchos replacing her as Vice-President before 2024, because they couldn't see her being elected in 2024 if Joe Biden doesn't make it until then. I could see her being elected as sitting President unless the Republicans run a brilliant candidate but she'd have a bigger fight as Vice as she'd surely be opposed in the primaries.
January 23, 20223 yr Author Um, no. The left wing was right, and the centrist corporate democrats have failed YET AGAIN. They will challenge Biden at the primaries, let alone Kamala, who is unpopular with the Democratic base! It's very unusual to challenge a sitting President. He usually is given a clear run.
January 24, 20223 yr I doubt Kamala will run if her approval ratings as VP continue to trend as they are. Next election will unfortunately be a republican landslide if they have a normal, non-trump related nom, given the current disapproval of the Biden/Harris administation. Hillary needs to stay away.
January 24, 20223 yr Biden/Harris are failing and floundering in part because of the worst-right-wing Senators who are blocking them from getting anything done and in part because they refuse to be radical enough and do anything aside from what Democrats are good at, sit complaining for years about how bad a Republican government is and once they get in make the tiniest of incremental changes and call it good. It was going on for years in the Obama admin but the pandemic has exposed this do-nothing centrism for what it is. They will lose the Senate in the midterms, they will get even less done from 2022 to 2024 and I could definitely see the Biden/Harris ticket getting challenged at the 2024 primaries because unlike Obama, or Trump, Biden isn't integral to the Democratic Party, and Harris certainly isn't at the moment. The subject of this thread? hell no, learn that there are more than 3 politicians, there's plenty of talent in the Democratic Party in senators and state governors that could raise their profile through a candidacy. worth noting that while I despise the latter, both radical progressive change (Squad etc) and Blue Dog Dem appeal to conservatives (Manchin, Sinema) are potential strategies for a successful Dem presidential candidate, anything is better than this milquetoast do-nothin' that the Biden admin has thought the best way to approach a pandemic is.
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