Posted April 17, 20223 yr Yes Doctor Who is back tonight! The classic 70s aliens the Sea Devils return in 'Legend of the Sea Devils', it's on at 19:10, and it's Jodie Whittaker's second-to-last episode as The Doctor. It'll be interesting to see if anything gets announced at the end of the episode! Bisv9LLJCtk
April 17, 20223 yr Hopefully we get a surprise exit for her and Chibnat!!! And thst this ess rhe last episode all along :cheeseblock: Ta ta, Chibs!! Worst showrunner OF ALL TIME.
April 17, 20223 yr omg that trailer :cheeseblock: forget the Daleks, Ashad and the Master, I’m hyped for TEGAN AND ACE!!!!!! Also don’t need to use spoiler tags for this episode itself, just needed somewhere to exclaim my excitement for the next episode and didn’t want someone to accidentally enter the thread without having seen the trailer :kink:
April 17, 20223 yr Author Omg that trailer!!! A solid episode, wasn’t amazing, but I was thoroughly enjoying it throughout. I thought they handed Yaz’s feelings for The Doctor well too. So when will we get the next Doctor announcement?..
April 17, 20223 yr So when will we get the next Doctor announcement?.. "Her replacement as the Doctor is expected to be revealed in the coming weeks." according to the BBC News article about Tegan and Ace's return It was a decent episode. The Yaz and Doctor scenes were strong but the pacing felt off and I feel like the great big sea creature was a complete waste of time. Editing/direction was a bit off but the concept was good and I liked the Sea Devils! That TRAILER though!!!!! Lots of exciting things but Tegan and Ace !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First time classic companions are returning to the main show in 16 years!!
April 17, 20223 yr Author Oh wow, not long until the 14th Doctor announcement then! Are there any big sporting events coming up? :lol:
April 17, 20223 yr Trailer looks exciting certainly, just hope it doesn't do the same as Flux and cram in so much and not know how to resolve it (I didn't recognise those companions :blush: I'm bad with old Doctor Who lore) Episode itself was pretty standard stuff, some beautiful shots of the sea and underwater, but the pacing was very off and some things didn't make sense, how did they get through that whole ship of sea devils unscathed, that must have been quite a lot of death? Also, what happened to the sea monster? It never appeared again once its usefulness to the plot was done!
April 17, 20223 yr I didn't understand half of what was going on :lol: Isn't the Doctor supposed to be super smart?? Why did she think a loose rope would keep a sea devil WITH A SHARP SCI FI SWORD trapped? :lol: Chibnab is an awful writer.
April 17, 20223 yr It was an underwhelming episode and, at the heart, a VERY bog standard plot i.e. monster turns up and the Doctor stops them. There really wasn’t much more added to it. For the most part though, it looked visually stunning and I particularly liked the TARDIS on the seabed! Costume and sea devil designs also were incredible. The dialogue was drowned out in some parts though by the music. Although I’m not really a Thasmin supporter, I think those scenes ended up being among the highlights of the episode as they were really well acted by both Jode and Mandip and just added something different to such a straightforward story. My only critique is that Yaz is the most special person to her, but I’m gonna take that as the most special person to Thirteen, rather than The Doctor as a whole because the writing of Yaz really doesn’t live up to that x Also not the Doctor criticising them for killing the Sea Devil and then minutes later Dan kills a load in one swoop oops! Also yet another person she lets sacrifice themselves instead of her :lol: Overall, always a nice bonus to have more Who but ultimately very average. Not awful, but nothing special.
April 18, 20223 yr This was OK I guess. Some glaring plot holes and inconsistencies, such the aforementioned net trap and the statement that the Sea Devils are non-confrontational despite them being determined to destroy humanity on both previous encounters. I also take issue with The Doctor continually referring to them as Sea Devils which not only feels like a racial slur compared to her (his) previous insistence on calling them Homo-reptilia (or Silurian) in previous stories but also seems antagonisitic rather than diffusive. Admittedly they did refer to themselves by that term in their 5th Doctor story but it felt wrong then and it sounds even worse coming from The Doctor. Otherwise it looked ok but still suffered from the typical BBC 'clean' look in that everything seems brand new and neat, I'm ok with the sea-monster dropping from the plot but a reference would have been useful. Yaz is still pointless and I can't see why anybody would be interested in a personality vacuum like her. I could only make The Doctor's comments make sense as her giving Yaz the gentle let down - saying 'I would but...' when inside she's thinking 'how can I tell her no-way without being mean?' Overall they could have done a lot more with this - I mean, pirates and Sea Devils? A perfect combination and that should have ramped up the tension and fear factor of these mysterious beasts from the deep, at least for the first half and hour. As for Tegan and Ace, two companions that I really didn't like at the time (it really should have been Nyssa) but who have both grown on me in subsequent years, to the point where I think they have some merit even if I'm not a fan. Still, it'll be fun to catch up with them again
April 18, 20223 yr Tegan is one of my favourite classic companions, and definitely my favourite of the 80s ones, with Ace probably a close second so I'm thrilled to see them both back. Certainly not something I'd have ever expected. Slight continuity error though is that Sophie Aldred wrote a book where modern day Ace meets Thirteen, Yaz, Graham and Ryan whereas the trailer states Ace hasn't seen the Doctor for over 30 years. I know the only real 'canon' is the main show but slightly awkward given that it's one of the few Thirteenth Doctor books out there. Vinder has also been confirmed to return in the publicity photos so that's The Doctor, Yaz, Dan, The Master, Tegan, Ace, Kate Stewart, Vinder, the Daleks, Ashad/the Cybermen already confirmed and there was that tease of the Fugitive Doctor returning in the Flux behind the scenes videos. We at least need to get some form of wrap up of the Timeless Child storyline (which I'm more positive we get since it's the Master's first episode since the exposition ep), say goodbye to the Doctor as well as exit storylines for Yaz and Dan. I'm hyped but I can only see it being as messy as Flux was :lol:
April 18, 20223 yr Yup, agreed with both those posts about the terrible writing :lol: I don't know how these episodes even make it to tv, like Dinosaurs on a Spaceship! Surely people are around to say, no, or the Doctor wouldn't jetison someone out into space because he's feeling a bit cranky that day... The only part I liked eas the Tardis on the seabed, before that strange sea monster attacked. What was it, why was it so big and powerdul, how could the seas on earth support it, where did it come from, and where did it go? I was also like HMMMM to the Doctor calling boring Yaz more importsnt than Rose or River!!
April 18, 20223 yr That was a mainly awful episode. Plus, it was very quiet on my TV which didn't help! Why did the sea devils look so rubber faced? Their mouths didn't even move when they spoke.
April 18, 20223 yr That was a mainly awful episode. Plus, it was very quiet on my TV which didn't help! Why did the sea devils look so rubber faced? Their mouths didn't even move when they spoke. :lol: Cheaping out a bit, as no one is watchin.
April 18, 20223 yr Why did the sea devils look so rubber faced? Their mouths didn't even move when they spoke. Keeping a classic Who tradition alive I forgot to say the thing that bugged me the most in the whole episode - exploding cannonballs. That's not how they work Edited April 18, 20223 yr by Severin
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