The only bright side is that Ed Sheeran won't go straight to top ten with 2Step with all those ancient tracks hovering on positions 5-10.

The OCC should redefine decline/increase and make it harder

Then maybe Preu would finaly go

I disagree, once on acr there’s no coming back unless something mad happens so once a songs over ten weeks old it can fall quite easily and never return to the top tier. Fact is with Peru for example it’s very popular and maintains its stream very well weekly so why shouldn’t it’s chart run be long. It’s not it’s fault other songs aren’t taking off or there’s not as many big releases. As a poster above said all the big songs in the past month have debuted in the top 5 because the sales were quite low below it.

It's not case of "taking off" - Starlight for instance was #1 for a few weeks, but just because it started huge and is not affected by people having a day off/good weather it won't be on SCR longer than 10 weeks, whereas dance tracks might stay on SCR for half a year just because increase of one or two DAYS a month.

One thing I notice more is the lack of new entries each week 2 to 4 is practically the norm these days, when you think back to the days of 7+ each week, many moons ago. I just think more artists need to act and release new material. And it also boils down to peoples' music taste, as the older you get you become interested in other things than music. lol

I would say the releases are happening, it is just much more difficult to break through now. Those fortunate enough to get there (e.g. Peru, MMFG etc) then stick around much longer.

 

We are definitely lacking in big names these days releasing or at least feeling like an event. Ed bring the only real one I can think of actively putting stuff out and making each single an event. Even with Adele having released an album not that long ago has all but fizzled our. 10 years ago we would be on single #3 with a video and some promo slots. I was hoping names like Shawn Mendes and Lizzo would still have enough impact but even they are struggling when it wasn’t that long ago they were doing well with multiple hits.

 

Only other thing I have noticed is we aren’t getting the big Tik Tok songs like we did the last two years. If a song has blown up lately, they have been either well established hits already or random tracks all outside the 3 year window so being prevented from ever having a big chart moment due to the 3 year rule (e.g. dandelions).

 

Agree with those about Starlight. If that goes ACR before those top 10 cloggers, then that will feel like a chart injustice.

Edited April 26, 20223 yr by GTH

^well, we have Cat Burns-Go, thats a Tiktok hit

If a song has blown up lately, they have been either well established hits already or random tracks all outside the 3 year window so being prevented from ever having a big chart moment due to the 3 year rule (e.g. dandelions).

 

I agree with the comment that not even Tik Tok is bringing life the charts, but Dandelions is on SCR it's just not doing enough to actually break the Top 40, assume it got a reset by the label when it blew up.

 

I think the staleness of the chart is partially due to the wider public not being interested in new music enough unlike ten or twenty years ago. People, especailly younger, are interested in other things in life.

Re Preu (did I miss an in-joke?), Make Me Feel Good & Down Under - you could argue that if it takes ACR to remove them for the top 10 then the likes of The Motto, Tiger Lily & She's All I Wanna Be don't deserve the top 10 if they can't manage to oust such ancient songs on an even playing field.

Couple of weeks ago, the top ten bar was very low so if The Motto and Tiger Lily couldn't make it then, I don't think they "deserve" it now when other songs have increased more.

Also, I'm sure I saw lots and lots of posts here a while ago of people worrying that The Motto wasn't going to be a hit and even missing the top 40, so maybe it's worth looking on the positive side and being happy it's done well in the end instead of focusing on the negative.

Re Preu (did I miss an in-joke?), Make Me Feel Good & Down Under - you could argue that if it takes ACR to remove them for the top 10 then the likes of The Motto, Tiger Lily & She's All I Wanna Be don't deserve the top 10 if they can't manage to oust such ancient songs on an even playing field.

 

I'm past the point of hoping they will be top 10 now, I just don't want the same static top 10 for 11 weeks on end. It's like 2016 all over again.

I think the staleness of the chart is partially due to the wider public not being interested in new music enough unlike ten or twenty years ago. People, especailly younger, are interested in other things in life.

Or because there’s so much easily accessible music these days, that many don’t listen to much of what’s in the chart. like I’m very much into music but the vast majority of my current fave songs these days are not chart hits.

It's not case of "taking off" - Starlight for instance was #1 for a few weeks, but just because it started huge and is not affected by people having a day off/good weather it won't be on SCR longer than 10 weeks, whereas dance tracks might stay on SCR for half a year just because increase of one or two DAYS a month.

 

Yes but there are long running tracks during the winter months too when songs dont get boosts from good weather so I think its quite an unscientific way of looking at it(albeit its clear dance songs get a boost during really good weather and over holiday periods when people are having BBQs etc), the likes of Peru increased and avoided ACR when in the middle of winter for example.

Edited April 26, 20223 yr by Steve201

The killers mr brightside need do something with over 300 week chart the killers rack cash in each week

Finding a way to kick Mr Brightside off the chart won't stop The Killers getting bank from it :D

Re Preu (did I miss an in-joke?), Make Me Feel Good & Down Under - you could argue that if it takes ACR to remove them for the top 10 then the likes of The Motto, Tiger Lily & She's All I Wanna Be don't deserve the top 10 if they can't manage to oust such ancient songs on an even playing field.

But its not an even playing field

Lost Freq, Belters Only have been top 30 thanks to the massive playlist support on Spotify

Of which The Motto has very little and George Ezra even less

With the same playlist support they would have been top 10 for sure

 

So maybe the static Spotify playlists favoring the same 3 songs for months is to blame

Are the Spotify playlists more static than they were a year or so ago? And if so, is that based on consumer demand - that they find that users want to hear the same old track for a millionth time rather than new muisc?

^well, we have Cat Burns-Go, thats a Tiktok hit

Is it? Fair enough if so but I can’t say I have seen any viral vids for the track like you got for wellerman, aurora, Duncan Lawrence etc. even the biggest vid for it on youtube linked to Tik Tok only has 80k views. I admit I could just be out the loop here, but I know it has good airplay and imagine a lot of people listening have heard via radio/playlists.

 

Cjthedj - ah fair enough. Don’t know how I missed that. Hoping it can climb a bit further then if ACR isn’t holding it back.

There have definitely been fewer TikTok hits, or perhaps more of them are older tracks that are handicapped by ACR, but I think it's also worth noting that I feel like the industry has relied too much on the app in recent years to create the next big thing while radio and streaming haven't invested much in the artists that benefit. Look at artists like GAYLE, Powfu, Conan Gray, etc who all had hits from TikTok but they're all one-hit wonders... because none of their follow-ups have had any support from anywhere. Conan is perhaps a notable example despite having the smallest hit of the three artists I named - Heather was a top 20 hit and he's released plenty of well-received, hit-worthy songs that come from the same team as Olivia Rodrigo, and literally nothing's even had the chance to smash because radio and streaming have snubbed him since.

 

Other artists like Tate McRae blew up because of TikTok and only really scored another hit because of TikTok again (this time because she's all i wanna be was a hyped snippet, if I remember correctly), while Tones and I only got a second hit due to TikTok despite little initial support beyond Dance Monkey. 24kGoldn had two hits via TikTok and a third on a Clean Bandit feature with nothing else getting support.

 

The point here is that plenty of new artists have blown up but it feels like there's little commitment to establishing them - one hit isn't enough and TikTok success stories like Doja Cat feel much rarer than those who blow up and get nothing afterwards. Now that TikTok's effect seems to have slightly waned, and with many of these new artists not capitalised on, music feels much more stagnant and the industry doesn't seem to know what to do (after all, it's not just the UK suffering from a slow, stagnant chart in 2022)