Wilf has potentially made a very bad move. Kieran (or whoever he picked even if not him) will know how ruthless Wilf is after seeing him basically oust both Alyssa and Amanda. Kieran could very easily accept and then turn the group against Wilf (or at least suggest giving Maddy's theory a try with Wilf), leaving him standing as the last traitor. Kieran genuinely could come from nowhere and win the whole thing lmao

 

Aaron is awful.

 

I know this is a Maddie stan account at this point, but he is so volatile and dismissive towards her at any opportunity it irritates the life out of me.

 

That's hardly a surprise when she keeps going for him and virtually no one else each time. He's hardly going to be friendly towards someone who keeps unjustifiably going for him :lol:

That's hardly a surprise when she keeps going for him and virtually no one else each time. He's hardly going to be friendly towards someone who keeps unjustifiably going for him :lol:

 

Exactly!! :lol: You can tell he's just absolutely done with her incessant remarks about him being a traitor; I'd feel exactly the same too.

Exactly!! :lol: You can tell he's just absolutely done with her incessant remarks about him being a traitor; I'd feel exactly the same too.

 

But asides from her saying a few times that she thinks he’s the traitor (AKA playing the actual game) she hasn’t really said anything untoward or horrible, yet he doesn’t mind. He has a go at her and says she doesn’t add anything when all he does is vote her back (tit for tat by his own admission) whilst at least Maddy is theorising albeit off the mark. She has did the same with Wilf who is still able to treat her on par with other people.

 

I also don’t really get why her continuing to vote for someone is seen as a negative thing, I prefer that approach to just following what everyone else thinks. Her reasonings aren’t any more wild or ridiculous than everyone else, it just so happens that she sticks to her gut 🤷‍♂️

Kieran winning would be such a downer on such a fantastic series but I guess a damp squib of a winner is the true mark of a great reality TV show.

I'm wondering if anyone will click that it was Wilf who cast the deciding vote to get both traitors out and take that as him knowing who the traitors were. I was hopeful when someone (Maddy?) Brought up Alyssa's comment of him deflecting. I think I'd hate it if Kieran won, he's fine he's just not one I've really rooted for, I'd have felt better if Amos was in his position instead. If it is going to be between the traitors then I'd prefer Wil even, I don't like him and he's one of my least faves but he's played the game tbf

I'm wondering if anyone will click that it was Wilf who cast the deciding vote to get both traitors out and take that as him knowing who the traitors were. I was hopeful when someone (Maddy?) Brought up Alyssa's comment of him deflecting. I think I'd hate it if Kieran won, he's fine he's just not one I've really rooted for, I'd have felt better if Amos was in his position instead. If it is going to be between the traitors then I'd prefer Wil even, I don't like him and he's one of my least faves but he's played the game tbf

 

The producers know who people have voted for with all the cameras, so I suspect it was set up in that way to give Will the deciding vote.

Another great episode, a shame Amanda went but I think her fate was sealed when she lead the ousting of Theo.

 

Tempting Kieran is an interesting one. But I can see the logic behind it.

 

Sort of want Wilf to win now - just as he has been the game for the whole series. He has worked for it; Alyssa and Amanda sort of sat back to stay in the background - a good strategy to start with, but ultimately didn’t work.

 

 

The producers know who people have voted for with all the cameras, so I suspect it was set up in that way to give Will the deciding vote.

 

Yeah same with giving Amanda the deciding vote when voting out either Alyssa or Will :mellow:

But asides from her saying a few times that she thinks he’s the traitor (AKA playing the actual game) she hasn’t really said anything untoward or horrible, yet he doesn’t mind. He has a go at her and says she doesn’t add anything when all he does is vote her back (tit for tat by his own admission) whilst at least Maddy is theorising albeit off the mark. She has did the same with Wilf who is still able to treat her on par with other people.

 

I also don’t really get why her continuing to vote for someone is seen as a negative thing, I prefer that approach to just following what everyone else thinks. Her reasonings aren’t any more wild or ridiculous than everyone else, it just so happens that she sticks to her gut 🤷‍♂️

 

Nobody is saying it's a negative thing? If Maddy truly believes it's Aaron, that's her prerogative and she has every right to continue to feel that way - but on the flip side, the person on the receiving end of those theories has every single right to feel angry; especially when those theories simply aren't correct 🤷‍♂️

 

That's hardly a surprise when she keeps going for him and virtually no one else each time. He's hardly going to be friendly towards someone who keeps unjustifiably going for him :lol:

the person on the receiving end of those theories has every single right to feel angry; especially when those theories simply aren't correct 🤷‍♂️

Maddy doesn’t know her theory isn’t correct, and thats the crucial point. It doesn’t matter that Aaron knows he’s faithful, or that we know he’s a faithful.

 

They’re all clutching at straws in there, but I’m not sure why some people are so down on Maddy when she’s just playing the game. Her having an unshakable gut feeling that a particular person is the traitor - that’s as valid as any of the others bouncing around with different theories for different people. I don’t see why it’s unjustifiable for Maddy to be resolute that it’s Aaron.

Maddy doesn’t know her theory isn’t correct, and thats the crucial point. It doesn’t matter that Aaron knows he’s faithful, or that we know he’s a faithful.

 

They’re all clutching at straws in there, but I’m not sure why some people are so down on Maddy when she’s just playing the game. Her having an unshakable gut feeling that a particular person is the traitor - that’s as valid as any of the others bouncing around with different theories for different people. I don’t see why it’s unjustifiable for Maddy to be resolute that it’s Aaron.

 

What I'm saying is Aaron knows her theories about him aren't correct so obviously he has every right to feel annoyed - somebody is constantly going on at him and saying things about him that he knows aren't true.

 

I'm personally not down on Maddy whatsoever and I actually quite admire her for sticking to her guns, but I do find it bizarre when others don't understand Aaron's frustration and just label him "awful".

Yeah I can completely get where Aaron is coming from. He probably thinks no matter what he says or does, or however many traitors are uncovered there’s always going to be at least a vote for him. Barring him getting voted out and actually saying ‘I am a faithful’ is t going to change that.

 

I do like Maddy though and agreed I like her for sticking to her guns.

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Maddy is excellent TV and I don't blame her at all for sticking to her guns, though equally I can entirely understand Aaron's frustrations, as he feels he's proven himself time and time again and Maddy isn't letting go. It's not like they have much to go off so it's pretty hard to come to any sort of justifiable conclusion!

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:lol:!!!!

On the whole Maddy/Aaron job, I think everyone is forgetting how psychological this show is, it sounds like they're filming 16 hour days and they have no idea really who the traitors are. There's so much group thinking and unconscious biases at play. Maddie had a theory that was half right, totally her perogative. Will be interesting if she still goes down the whole "Aaron is a traitor" route now her theory is totally canned.

You know what I don’t even blame Wilf in a way, it is a game!! I think one of them was going to do it, he just got there first and Amanda was a bit sloppy with Theo, this kind of game it only takes one slip up and you’re gone especially when it’s this close to the end. I will miss Amanda though as she was iconic and by far the most entertaining. I don’t l really like Wilf but I am loving seeing this kind of ruthless gameplay on UK reality TV as you never ever do. I think Amanda would have done the same at some point, her having slipped up with Theo gave Wilf a chance to push that along. It is frustrating that Amanda only snaked Theo to get the heat off Wilf only the day before though D: Kieran as a Traitor makes sense but meh, he’s so dull

 

I agree about Maddy, I like that she has her theories and just sticks to them because it’s so easy to get caught up in the psychological part of the game and go for the group theory, which is where they’ve gone wrong quite a bit, but I think it will be her undoing as she is like a dog with a bone even when her theory doesn’t really go anywhere :lol: She is amazing TV though.

But asides from her saying a few times that she thinks he’s the traitor (AKA playing the actual game) she hasn’t really said anything untoward or horrible, yet he doesn’t mind. He has a go at her and says she doesn’t add anything when all he does is vote her back (tit for tat by his own admission) whilst at least Maddy is theorising albeit off the mark. She has did the same with Wilf who is still able to treat her on par with other people.

 

I also don’t really get why her continuing to vote for someone is seen as a negative thing, I prefer that approach to just following what everyone else thinks. Her reasonings aren’t any more wild or ridiculous than everyone else, it just so happens that she sticks to her gut 🤷‍♂️

I low key agree with this! I cantd believe I do because I was Aaron's biggest defender - but at least Maddy is actually TRYING. I don't see a lot of the faithfuls doing that at all!! Some of them are there for a free day out sometimes I think lmao.

 

I don't really buy Wilf.is this iconic mastermind, I just think the faithfuls don't care enough which is odd, and he's just got incredible lucky. Amanda did play a better game long run, he kept quiet throughout and...also sorry, I find him a bit dull! Him and Kieran will be a good pairing in that sense I guess 😴

 

I'm not as big of an Amanda Stan as everyone else is but she gave us much more than Wilf ever has done imo. I think her only slip ups were voting for Theo and really think she would've been in a better position had she gone for Wilf over Alyssa.

 

I do think we could end up with a really disappointing winner which is a shame. Rooting for Maddy!!

 

I was so gutted for Amanda last night but, by accident or not, it was a pretty great move by Wilf that you kind of have to respect. I feel sorry for him that he was forced to make the recruitment decision last night because I truly think he could’ve just won on his own by eliminating Amanda, pinning the blame on Aaron and sitting in the final 5 with his alliance and Maddy that nobody has listened to this whole time :lol:

Yes, it might just be focused on that one night but at least Maddy is trying to look at what’s happened throughout the game. Of course we only see what’s in the edit but it feels like the rest are just looking at it day to day and vote off who was the most dodgy that day rather than looking back on how they’ve acted at integral moments.

 

It is easy once you know the traitors but they need to focus on the reactions as to when Amanda and Alyssa were voted out. As others have said, they need to notice Wilf couldn’t look either of them in the eye and was particularly very emotional about Amanda despite not really having a relationship with her in the main game.

Won't be watching the finale I think. Maddy is the only one who spoke sense, brought entertainment.

 

Hannah and Meryl and sorry everyone's precious Aaron are all thick as f***. They don't deserve the money so give it to Wilf and Kieran I guess but I just couldn't give a flying f*** about them whatsoever.