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This is the official streaming services thread, the go-to topic for the discussion of playlists and charts from services such as Spotify, Apple & Amazon!

 

FAQs

 

What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming?

For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread.

 

How many streams equals one download sale?

100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread.

 

How much does streaming contribute to the chart?

Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole. Spotify counts for at least half of this, with Apple Music and Amazon also big contributors. YouTube is also big however most of YouTube's streams are at the free tier so won't count for as much.

 

Why is my fave not doing well?

Is it being promoted on a major curated playlist, and/or going viral on TikTok? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists on Spotify from a UK standpoint. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist. Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes.

 

My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping?

Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped releases, such as the recent album impacts from Drake and Taylor Swift.

 

Spotify

 

How do I see today's Spotify chart?

To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. For the full top 200, use the link below to go to Spotify's website. You can also use the Kworb website which displays the data in an easier to read format and also contains additional information, however this is often out of date.

 

Spotify App [top 50]

Spotify Website [top 200]

Kworb [top 200 and extra data]

 

What are the most influential Spotify playlists?

Links to Spotify's top playlists are as below.

 

 

How often does the Spotify chart update?

It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although on occasion there will be a delay.

 

What do the numbers mean?

The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day.

 

Apple Music

 

How do I see today's Apple Music chart?

You can use the link below to view the Apple Music top 100 through Kworb. If you have Apple Music, you can also view the top 200 by going to the Charts section and clicking on See All in the Top Songs section.

 

Kworb [top 100]

 

What are the most influential Apple Music playlists?

Links to Apple Music's top playlists are as below.

 

 

How often does the Apple Music chart update?

It like iTunes updates on a regular basis a number of times a day. No streaming figures are provided however, unlike Spotify.

 

Amazon

 

How do I see today's Amazon Music chart?

You can use the link below to view the Amazon Music chart.

 

Amazon Music

 

How often does the Amazon Music chart update?

It like iTunes updates on a regular basis a number of times a day. No streaming figures are provided however, unlike Spotify.

 

[FAQs written by Dan]

 

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Excuse my ignorance but who is Davido? Making quite an impression on Apple Music
He's an afrobeats artist, one of the biggest names in the genre but it's been 3 years since his last album and the genre as a whole has blown up a lot more since then. I think Apple promotes afrobeats a lot more than Spotify does but very intrigued to see if he can chart multiple songs on Spotify too.
It only really 'bothered' - I'd say confused more than bothered - me with Rina (and MUNA to a much lesser extent) because discussion of her as if she is or is about to be some mainstream chart star / huge name has been so prevalent despite being entirely baseless for pretty much her entire career (and not only on here), even to the point where people seemed constantly disappointed at her continuing to not chart her singles as if there was ever any reasonable expectation that she would. It just seems to me like some of her fans would be a lot better off just enjoying the music for what it is and not being so bothered by the lack of chart validation. If she was a formerly big name who stopped having hits I'd understand that more, but she's literally never had a hit (apart from the Charli feature ofc but I'm not convinced that song made any difference to her career / name recognition as a whole rather than just being a one off viral hit because of people recognising the sample) so it always slightly baffled me where that discourse came from.

 

(obviously not saying all or even most of her fans are like this, just enough of them that it was noticeable in a way that I have not noticed with similar artists with cult fanbases but no chart presence)

It's definitely an interesting echo chamber effect. Usually (but is not limited to) a result of spending too long on any of the triumvirate of r/...heads subreddits that one equates a small community with the bigger picture. When of course we have a bigger picture and it's published every Friday afternoon. Absolute shock that DJ Khaled is more popular than JID etc. I literally compile a fake music chart every week with like half a dozen friends and so need to constantly remind myself that no, the average person on the street has not heard of Magdalena Bay or think's they're the bee's knees.

 

Relevant anecdote about Rina that is extremely Australian in content so read at your own peril:

Every year we have the triple j Hottest 100 which generates a lot of speculation in the lead up as to what gets in/places where etc. There had been similar efforts done before but predicting the full list got a lot of mainstream attention when one guy wrote a script to count every vote posted on social media, producing a roughly ~4% sample that proved *very* accurate in projecting the whole thing. This has continued ever since though with less votes on social media and that particular sample being less representative, it's not as accurate as it once was. Rina in fact set a new record when "XS" was projected to land at #82 but in reality missed the entire top 200. It meant an entire broadcast of copium inhalation as it was assumed she had to be in there somewhere but you have to imagine it's a case where not many people voted her, but everyone who did, posted it online (It's me, hi, I'm one of the people who did this). So if nothing else, there's a case where at least briefly there was quantified evidence that she appeared to be in the mix of popularity.

Mind you her album charted reasonably well at least.

 

But it's why the charts have so much value because they can settle that score/debate, at least to an extent. Yes, so and so artist is being helped by playlists, algorithms, label tomfoolery etc, but so is basically everyone to an extent. At the end of the day, a stream is a stream, a sale is a sale, and an artist can be very popular even if they don't have a contingent online talking about it, and vice versa.

I don't care for Ed or not, really, but no one can say this is not a BOMB. Today's update -

 

Spotify (March 31|Day 8)

Global #47 (-19) 2,280,337(-163,844)

US #122 (-60):rip: 395,994(-77,445)

UK#9(-1) 222,892(-13,873)

 

Of course his play-listing on Spotify are amazing so no complain over there.

Spotify

 

1 Calvin Harris Ellie Goulding miracle

2 pinkpantheress ice spice boys a liar

3 Miley, Cyrus flowers

4 SZA, kill Bill

5 Libianca people

 

Other

7 Lizzy McAlpine ceilings

9 ed Sheeran eyes closed

18 Tyler, the Creator dogtooth

25 Melanie Martinez void

28 baker hell n back

46 Taylor, the creator sorry not sorry

47 Taylor Swift, all of the girls, he loved before

52 Paris Paloma labour

54 back up 6 play, George Ezra Green Green grass

57 hozier eat your Young

64 caity baser preset boys

65 Melanie Martinez death

88 Melanie Martinez tunnel vision

94 Taylor, the creator, ASPA, rocky wharf talk

104 jisso flowers

105 Melanie Martinez Evil

114 Maisie Peters lost the breakup

128 Zara larsson can’t tame her

131 Melanie Martinez The contortionist

136 borai & denham audio make me

149 Melanie Martinez spiderweb

151 boygenius not strong enough

160 Taylor, The creator stuntman

171 Taylor, the creator, what a day

179 Melanie Martinez Faerie soirée

182 Taylor, the creator heaven to me

198 Melanie Martinez like shower

200 boygenius cool about it

 

Miracle

iTunes: #1

Spotify: #1

Apple: #1

Amazon: #1

 

It’s looking good for official #1 this week! :yahoo:

 

As much as I like Ed's music and think he's done nothing wrong in his release strategy to get this somg to No.1, he's features on 15 Top 100 songs over 2021/2022, and that really is over-saturation.

 

Eyes Closed is "just another Ed Sheeran song" rather than the event it could have been if released in 12 months time after a period of quiet.

Edited by ChrisJK

New Entries

 

45. Tyler, The Creator - SORRY NOT SORRY

88. Melanie Martinez - TUNNEL VISION

94. Tyler, The Creator (feat. A$AP Rocky) - WHARF TALK

104. JISOO - FLOWER

105. Melanie Martinez - EVIL

114. Maisie Peters - Lost The Breakup

131. Melanie Martinez - THE CONTORTIONIST

149. Melanie Martinez - SPIDER WEB

151. boygenius - Not Strong Enough

153. Demi Lovato - Heart Attack - Rock Version

160. Tyler, The Creator (feat. Vince Staples) - STUNTMAN

171. Tyler, The Creator - WHAT A DAY

179. Melanie Martinez - FAERIE SOIREE

182. Tyler, The Creator - HEAVEN TO ME

190. Melanie Martinez - LIGHT SHOWER

200. boygenius - Cool About It

 

Big Climbers

 

18. Tyler, The Creator - DOGTOOTH (+32)

25. Melanie Martinez - VOID (+16)

52. Paris Paloma - labour (+33)

65. Melanie Martinez - DEATH (RE)

136. Borai & Denham Audio - Make Me (RE)

141. Luke Combs - Fast Car (+50)

When will AIW hit ACR?

Well it increased in sales this week, so not for another 3 weeks at the very least :mellow:

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I guess that Taylor song must've been held up by autoplay then - it's sudden 18-47 drop doesn't make sense otherwise

same with Hozier's new one, down 29-57

 

yay for Calvin finally reaching Spotify #1

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Spotify Chart Update (31/03)

 

:up: 01 02 Calvin Harris, Ellie Goulding – Miracle (with Ellie Goulding) 423,807 [*PEAK*]

:down: 02 01 PinkPantheress, Ice Spice – Boy's a liar Pt. 2 406,250

:right: 03 03 Miley Cyrus – Flowers 359,811

:right: 04 04 SZA – Kill Bill 302,757

:right: 05 05 Libianca – People 277,845

:right: 06 06 RAYE, 070 Shake – Escapism. 267,861 – 335,897 comb.

:right: 07 07 Lizzy McAlpine – ceilings 246,500

:up: 08 09 Taylor Swift – Anti-Hero 235,795

:down: 09 08 Ed Sheeran – Eyes Closed 222,892

:right: 10 10 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage – Creepin' (with The Weeknd & 21 Savage) 206,077

 

:right: 11 11 Harry Styles – As It Was 204,991

:up: 12 13 Rema, Selena Gomez – Calm Down (with Selena Gomez) 201,750

:down: 13 12 Miguel – Sure Thing 201,507

:right: 14 14 Coi Leray – Players 193,848

:up: 15 16 David Guetta, Bebe Rexha – I'm Good (Blue) 174,278

:down: 16 15 The Weeknd, Ariana Grande – Die For You (with Ariana Grande) - Remix 167,105 – 296,207 comb.

:right: 17 17 Mae Stephens – If We Ever Broke Up 166,958

:up: 18 50 Tyler, The Creator – DOGTOOTH 163,374 [*PEAK*]

:right: 19 19 Tiësto, Tate McRae – 10:35 158,776

:right: 20 20 venbee, goddard. – messy in heaven 154,989

 

:right: 21 21 Tom Odell – Another Love 154,657

:up: 22 24 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 153,768

:down: 23 22 OneRepublic – I Ain't Worried 151,144

:down: 24 23 Strandz – Us Against the World 143,890 – 216,956 comb.

:up: 25 41 Melanie Martinez – VOID 140,313 [*PEAK*]

:down: 26 25 Digga D – Energy 139,790

:right: 27 27 Central Cee – LET GO 137,170

:right: 28 28 Bakar – Hell N Back 134,210

:down: 29 26 Sam Smith, Kim Petras – Unholy (feat. Kim Petras) 133,393

:up: 30 31 The Weeknd – Die For You 129,102

 

:up: 31 35 Coldplay – Viva La Vida 128,798

:down: 32 30 Niall Horan – Heaven 127,974

:up: 33 34 Mimi Webb – Red Flags 126,568

:down: 34 33 Meghan Trainor – Made You Look 125,550

:down: 35 32 Chris Brown – Under The Influence 124,236

:up: 36 38 Beyoncé – CUFF IT 122,618

:up: 37 45 Vance Joy – Riptide 122,384 [*PEAK*]

:up: 38 39 The Neighbourhood – Sweater Weather 121,464

:up: 39 46 Eliza Rose, Interplanetary Criminal – B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All) - Edit 120,307

:right: 40 40 The Weeknd, Daft Punk – Starboy 119,133

 

:ne: 46 NE Tyler, The Creator – SORRY NOT SORRY 115,049 [*PEAK*]

:down: 47 18 Taylor Swift – All Of The Girls You Loved Before 113,502

:up: 52 85 Paris Paloma – labour 109,202

:down: 57 29 Hozier – Eat Your Young 103,868

:up: 64 78 Caity Baser – Pretty Boys 98,212

:re: 65 RE Melanie Martinez – DEATH 98,128 [*PEAK*]

:down: 66 58 SZA – Snooze 98,003

:up: 67 70 Ayra Starr – Rush 97,100

:up: 82 91 Meghan Trainor – Mother 91,135

:ne: 88 NE Melanie Martinez – TUNNEL VISION 88,961 [*PEAK*]

:up: 89 97 Jax Jones, Calum Scott – Whistle (feat. Calum Scott) 88,899 [*PEAK*]

:down: 93 82 P!nk – TRUSTFALL 88,427

:ne: 94 NE Tyler, The Creator, A$AP Rocky – WHARF TALK (feat. A$AP Rocky) 87,744 [*PEAK*]

 

:up: 103 124 Switch Disco, Ella Henderson, Robert Miles – REACT 85,331 [*PEAK*]

:ne: 104 NE JISOO – FLOWER 85,058 [*PEAK*]

:ne: 114 NE Maisie Peters – Lost The Breakup 82,192 [*PEAK*]

:re: 136 RE Borai & Denham Audio, Borai, Denham Audio – Make Me 76,397 [*PEAK*]

:up: 141 191 Luke Combs – Fast Car 75,672 [*PEAK*]

:down: 142 112 TV Girl – Lovers Rock 75,653

:up: 147 176 Matt Sassari – Give It To Me - Full Vocal Mix 74,518

:ne: 151 NE boygenius, Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus – Not Strong Enough 73,860 [*PEAK*]

:ne: 153 NE Demi Lovato – Heart Attack - Rock Version 73,537 [*PEAK*]

:down: 159 125 RAYE – Flip A Switch. 72,850

:down: 170 136 Lil Uzi Vert, sped up nightcore, ARIZONATEARS – Watch This - ARIZONATEARS Pluggnb Remix 71,216

:down: 173 150 Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, Young Thug – Trance (with Travis Scott & Young Thug) 71,003

:down: 190 175 Ice Spice – In Ha Mood 68,718

:ne: 200 NE boygenius, Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus – Cool About It 68,022 [*PEAK*]

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Apple Music Chart Update (31/03-01/04)

 

:right: 01 01 Calvin Harris & Ellie Goulding - Miracle

:right: 02 02 Miley Cyrus - Flowers

:right: 03 03 Ed Sheeran - Eyes Closed

:right: 04 04 PinkPantheress & Ice Spice - Boy's a liar, Pt. 2

:right: 05 05 Switch Disco & Ella Henderson - REACT

:right: 06 06 RAYE & 070 Shake - Escapism.

:up: 07 08 Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down

:down: 08 07 Jax Jones & Calum Scott - Whistle

:right: 09 09 Libianca - People

:right: 10 10 Mimi Webb - Red Flags

 

:right: 11 11 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero

:right: 12 12 SZA - Kill Bill

:up: 13 14 Ayra Starr - Rush

:down: 14 13 Miguel - Sure Thing

:up: 15 18 Coi Leray - Players

:down: 16 15 The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Die For You (Remix)

:up: 17 70 Davido - UNAVAILABLE (feat. Musa Keys)

:down: 18 16 Tom Grennan - Here

:right: 19 19 Chris Brown - Under the Influence

:up: 20 23 Zara Larsson - Can't Tame Her

 

:right: 21 21 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin'

:down: 22 17 Caity Baser - Pretty Boys

:down: 23 20 Mae Stephens - If We Ever Broke Up

:down: 24 22 Tiësto & Tate McRae - 10:35

:up: 25 47 Davido - OVER DEM

:down: 26 24 venbee & Goddard - messy in heaven

:up: 27 28 FLO - Fly Girl (feat. Missy Elliott)

:up: 28 68 Davido - FEEL

:down: 29 27 Harry Styles - As It Was

:up: 30 86 Davido - NO COMPETITION (feat. Asake)

 

:down: 31 26 P!nk - TRUSTFALL

:down: 32 25 Lizzy McAlpine - ceilings

:down: 33 29 David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue)

:down: 34 30 Libianca - People (feat. Ayra Starr & Omah Lay)

:down: 35 31 Lewis Capaldi - Pointless

:up: 36 83 Davido - IN THE GARDEN (feat. Morravey)

:down: 37 33 Tom Odell - Another Love

:down: 38 32 Lewis Capaldi - Forget Me

:down: 39 38 The Killers - Mr. Brightside

:down: 40 39 Coldplay - Viva La Vida

 

:down: 41 34 Digga D - Energy

:down: 54 40 Hozier - Eat Your Young

:down: 56 43 Niall Horan - Heaven

:down: 70 57 Sigala, Mae Muller & Caity Baser - Feels This Good (feat. Stefflon Don)

:down: 71 53 Meghan Trainor - Mother

:down: 72 54 venbee - gutter

:down: 77 58 ArrDee & Cat Burns - Home For My Heart

:down: 80 66 SZA - Snooze

:down: 83 76 Jayo - 22

:down: 85 78 Ellie Goulding - By The End Of The Night

:down: 90 72 Luke Combs - Fast Car

:down: 96 84 Miley Cyrus - River

 

:down: 110 98 Nicki Minaj - Red Ruby Da Sleeze

:down: 121 107 Paul Woolford, Lewis Thompson & MNEK - 16 Again

:up: 133 150 Melanie Martinez - VOID

:down: 137 96 Nothing But Thieves - Welcome to the DCC

:ne: 142 NE Cian Ducrot - Part Of Me

:down: 146 145 RAYE - Flip A Switch.

:down: 160 151 Lil Baby - Low Down

:down: 162 118 Lewis Capaldi - How I'm Feeling Now

:up: 163 166 Rita Ora - You Only Love Me

:down: 165 136 Morgan Wallen - Last Night

:up: 180 182 Adekunle Gold & Zinoleesky - Party No Dey Stop

:down: 183 155 Regard & Ella Henderson - No Sleep

Amazing for Melanie!!!! Really hope "VOID" can become her first Top 40 hit, even if I would prefer it to be "EVIL"
I guess that Taylor song must've been held up by autoplay then - it's sudden 18-47 drop doesn't make sense otherwise

same with Hozier's new one, down 29-57

 

yay for Calvin finally reaching Spotify #1

I’m starting to think there’s something with autoplay coming into effect for a song’s 2nd week - iirc all of the two above examples, You Only Love Me, Heaven, Die For You etc all had their ‘autoplay boost’ on their 2nd week of release. (And to add to this trend, potentially Labour and Heart Attack - Rock Version could be being boosted by it this week?)

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