If it wasn't Melanie C or Emma or Geri would anyone really care about these projects?

What kind of argument is this? Obviously people care about their faves. Music fandom is subjective. :thinking:

 

Oh, and if it's so "crap"/"rubbish" then why you and Mr. X keep banging on about how you want Emma to do the festival circuit & prides? :cool:

 

I don’t think there is anything meh about performing at Brighton pride, I mean Kylie and Britney have performed there and you can’t really get much bigger than them. Anything performance related is brilliant, Emma’s Xmas tour and Royal Albert Hall, Melanie C performing at all these festivals and prides, the world tour of prides with Sink the pink… that is what we ask for from the girls music and performing.

 

What is frustrating is that they could all be doing prides and mighty hooplas easily, but they just don’t want to put in the hard graft for a music career bar Melanie C who will perform in every bar, club, festival, concert whatever to continue with music.

Edited August 9, 20231 yr by spiceboy

What kind of argument is this? Obviously people care about their faves. Music fandom is subjective. :thinking:

 

Oh, and if it's so "crap"/"rubbish" then why you and Mr. X keep banging on about how you want Emma to do the festival circuit & prides? :cool:

 

Because at least it would be something which is the opposite of nothing at all, which is what we currently have :blink: And again, I am not saying this with the utmost excitement as I know it would be again a middle of the road affair.

 

Doing the Pride and summer festival circuits is the very bare minimum they could easily do, which wouldnt cost them a fortune or demand them to have their own audience.

I don’t think there is anything meh about performing at Brighton pride, I mean Kylie and Britney have performed there and you can’t really get much bigger than them. Anything performance related is brilliant, Emma’s Xmas tour and Royal Albert Hall, Melanie C performing at all these festivals and prides, the world tour of prides with Sink the pink… that is what we ask for from the girls music and performing.

 

What is frustrating is that they could all be doing prides and mighty hooplas easily, but they just don’t want to put in the hard graft for a music career bar Melanie C who will perform in every bar, club, festival, concert whatever to continue with music.

 

She wasn't the main headliner more a warm up act. Tickets for Brighton pride were being discounted to get rid too.

 

It pales massively when you think 4 years ago they were selling out Wembley stadium 3 times over. Melanie C played that Wimbledon gig to a nearly empty field just a few days ago. For every pride there is still a DJ set or a festival that is absolute trash.

 

It is like settling for mouldy bread when you can have cheesecake and thinking the bread is amazing.

 

I love Emma but boring covers, Christmas gigs, nappies, lord give me strength.

Edited August 9, 20231 yr by sammy01

She wasn't the main headliner more a warm up act.

A warm up act? She performed just before Steps. Her name was the second-biggest in the bill.

 

That Wimbledon gig was in New York, barely advertised and announced in a few days notice.

 

It's clear that you like to take extreme examples in order to portray a very negative picture.

Edited August 9, 20231 yr by Voodoo

She wasn't the main headliner more a warm up act. Tickets for Brighton pride were being discounted to get rid too.

 

It pales massively when you think 4 years ago they were selling out Wembley stadium 3 times over. Melanie C played that Wimbledon gig to a nearly empty field just a few days ago. For every pride there is still a DJ set or a festival that is absolute trash.

 

It is like settling for mouldy bread when you can have cheesecake and thinking the bread is amazing.

 

I love Emma but boring covers, Christmas gigs, nappies, lord give me strength.

 

 

She was hardly a warm up act, she was second billing.

 

So by that argument if Spice Girls continued as a group you’d only want them to do it if they continued to sell out stadiums and arenas not if they became a band that relied on the nostalgia circuit performing smaller events. I guess it’s different when you’re actually a fan of the music like I am with Melanie because I’ll happily see her performing to 50 people and enjoy it just as much as when she is performing to thousands of people.

This is the only forum where grown men behave like this on this website.

 

It’s embarrassing!

 

 

The videos of Melanie at Brighton and the feedback she received was stellar!

She was hardly a warm up act, she was second billing.

 

So by that argument if Spice Girls continued as a group you’d only want them to do it if they continued to sell out stadiums and arenas not if they became a band that relied on the nostalgia circuit performing smaller events. I guess it’s different when you’re actually a fan of the music like I am with Melanie because I’ll happily see her performing to 50 people and enjoy it just as much as when she is performing to thousands of people.

 

Second billing at Brighton f***ing Pride is still a 'warm up act' lol lets be real here...

 

I wouldnt care about them as a group doing the 'nostalgia circuit' because they are at a level where they can do stadiums/more interesting projects. If they were to do the festival circuit as a group, I most probably wouldnt attend because I don't care about the nostalgia crap they have been spewing for 20 years anymore. If that's what they are willing to offer, then make it interesting and big at least.

 

The solo girls are not even close to that, so them doing the nostalgia circuit is the bare f***ing minimum. I am not enough of a Mel C solo fan to actively waste my time in going to see at Pub in the Park, specially when she could be doing much better/interesting gigs with the group instead, which is what I care about. I lived in Brighton for years and she visited multiple times, but I couldnt care less to go spend money to see her live. Done it once during Reason and thought it was so middle of the road... Plus her music isn't that great to me, so I I just cant justify it.

 

ANYWAY! It is always funny how Mel C fans take this conversation as us commenting on Mel's happiness and agency or the fan's own taste in her music. No-one's saying she cant do it or that she isnt happy doing it. Great for her.

 

As a fan of the group only - and the occasional Bunton music - I find her solo career a mere distraction and incredibly tedious...

Edited August 10, 20231 yr by Mr.X

:teresa: Melanie's PR trying to convince regional festivals to book her again next year:

 

The videos of Melanie at Brighton and the feedback she received was stellar!

 

 

Let's dial this back, please. This hasn't developed into a particularly constructive or pleasant conversation, and I'd like us to steer away from having such a negative atmosphere here. Thank you...!

Appreciate you Jay, but honestly dont think this conversation is 'wrong' to be had, or whatever. It's just annoying lol

Appreciate you Jay, but honestly dont think this conversation is 'wrong' to be had, or whatever. It's just annoying lol

 

 

I think it is just tiring for those of us who are proud of respective things the girls have done or achieved only for the same users (and I am not just referring to you here, different users are happy to do it to different girls) to constantly whine about it and put down their achievements. We get enough of that from the misogynistic media as it is.

 

Myself for instance, as a huge fan of solo Melanie C, I get quite wound up about the comments about her career having it called pathetic and putting down the things she is doing. For me I look back 15 years ago and think ok yes she was having some hits across Europe at that point however her reputation as an artist was in the gutter, she would never ever have gotten a solo slot at Glastonbury or a main stage appearance at Brighton Pride or some of the other festivals she is doing. I am quite proud of her for having stuck to her passion and slogged away to get to where she is. Then I see the same people posting again and again how pathetic it is, how she could be playing stadiums and so on over and over.

 

Nobody is saying don't post your opinion, but, once you've said it, you've said it, it does not need to be brought up again and again in several different threads which is what happening here.

 

It has wound me up to the extent that I've actually considered leaving the mod post and have avoided the forum at times so it clearly does create a negative atmosphere and vibe in here as Jay mentioned.

Melanie C of 15 years ago wouldn't be seen dead at Brighton pride. She saw herself as way above that sort thing. It is only because the hits and other oppurtunities have dried up that she is now a nostalgia festival act.

 

She was doing Isle of white so she could get big festivals back then.

 

People being happy she is booked and others realising that most of it is low rent bookings and she would probably much rather be doing better things can both be true or valid.

 

It is like Glastonbury, Melanie C played a small tent with a lot of names I've never heard of. With the Spice Girls she would be a main headliner on the main stage making massive waves and headlines. You can celebrate the 'wins' like Glastonbury whilst also recognising it is only second place.

Melanie C of 15 years ago wouldn't be seen dead at Brighton pride.

You are talking absolute bollocks. :rolleyes:

 

Why? Because exactly 15 years ago, Melanie headlined Pride Toronto. :whistle:

 

 

If Brighton Pride is good & prestigious enough for Kylie Minogue and Britney Spears then it's certainly good enough for Melanie, too.

Edited August 11, 20231 yr by Voodoo

Even if Melanie C's career choices are "second best" to work with the Spice Girls, she can hardly be expected to sit at home and do nothing, waiting for the other three or four to commit to the group. Why should she resign herself to thinking "nothing I do by myself can ever compare to Spice Girls, so I shouldn't bother, this is too low rent for me, as a Spice Girl". That would be such an unhealthy mindset to have. Thankfully she doesn't think this, she's still out there, booked and busy, and looking like she's having a lot of fun!

 

I think context really needs to be applied to Melanie C in 2023. Her most successful solo album and the hit singles from it are 23-24 years ago. She's almost 50. Everything could have dried up for her long before now... but she didn't allow that to happen, instead she's hitting new highs in her career such as performing at Glastonbury (regardless of the stage, she got a great reception) and she has a level of respect that wasn't afforded to her during the 2000s and 2010s.

 

When it comes to her solo career, realistically what sort of things do you guys expect her to be doing now, that would make her solo career "worthy" in your eyes? Because personally, she's exceeding my expectations for what I might have previously assumed her career would look like in the 2020s.

Even if Melanie C's career choices are "second best" to work with the Spice Girls, she can hardly be expected to sit at home and do nothing, waiting for the other three or four to commit to the group. Why should she resign herself to thinking "nothing I do by myself can ever compare to Spice Girls, so I shouldn't bother, this is too low rent for me, as a Spice Girl". That would be such an unhealthy mindset to have. Thankfully she doesn't think this, she's still out there, booked and busy, and looking like she's having a lot of fun!

 

I think context really needs to be applied to Melanie C in 2023. Her most successful solo album and the hit singles from it are 23-24 years ago. She's almost 50. Everything could have dried up for her long before now... but she didn't allow that to happen, instead she's hitting new highs in her career such as performing at Glastonbury (regardless of the stage, she got a great reception) and she has a level of respect that wasn't afforded to her during the 2000s and 2010s.

 

When it comes to her solo career, realistically what sort of things do you guys expect her to be doing now, that would make her solo career "worthy" in your eyes? Because personally, she's exceeding my expectations for what I might have previously assumed her career would look like in the 2020s.

 

I think the main criticism here, for me, is towards the other girls's aversion to group and solo music, and performing in general.

 

When it comes to Mel C, yeah I find it all still quite meh. Great for her to be receiving praise etc, but it all leaves me rather numb because I find most of her music meandering. Her last album being her best in 25 years doesnt mean much to me, personally.

 

I guess to answer your question in regards to what it would take for me to be interested again? Good and interesting music. She did that with Who I Am and Blame It on Me but the rest of the album is Mel C by the numbers again, imo. Even though there was a progression, it didnt materialise in great music to me. Lets see what her next album brings but I am not excited.

 

In terms of 'general' feelings about their solo work, it's been 25 years of mostly crap and middle of the road stuff. Some brilliant moments like Northern Star, Free Me and Life in Mono albums, but apart from those, it's all been vastly mediocre to bad stuff. So eventually I lost interest in their solo works and I guess it would take quite the turn to make me go back in the way that I was, for sure.

 

And I am just talking about music and performing here. Frankly, I couldnt give an ass about the other side projects.

I think the main criticism here, for me, is towards the other girls's aversion to group and solo music, and performing in general.

 

When it comes to Mel C, yeah I find it all still quite meh. Great for her to be receiving praise etc, but it all leaves me rather numb because I find most of her music meandering. Her last album being her best in 25 years doesnt mean much to me, personally.

 

I guess to answer your question in regards to what it would take for me to be interested again? Good and interesting music. She did that with Who I Am and Blame It on Me but the rest of the album is Mel C by the numbers again, imo. Even though there was a progression, it didnt materialise in great music to me. Lets see what her next album brings but I am not excited.

 

In terms of 'general' feelings about their solo work, it's been 25 years of mostly crap and middle of the road stuff. Some brilliant moments like Northern Star, Free Me and Life in Mono albums, but apart from those, it's all been vastly mediocre to bad stuff. So eventually I lost interest in their solo works and I guess it would take quite the turn to make me go back in the way that I was, for sure.

 

And I am just talking about music and performing here. Frankly, I couldnt give an ass about the other side projects.

 

Free Me and Life In Mono are meh and lack personality, IMHO.

But who cares about my opinion, Emma did and still will do what makes her happy as an individual - and this won’t affect any possible future group project. If your faves don’t release anything new, that’s not Melanie C fault. It’s like you want her to stop doing solo stuff because 1) there is no group thing happening; 2) the other 4 don’t do anything solo music-related (when they’re actually involved in different valuable projects, from books to entrepreneurship, fashion and charity.

Free Me and Life In Mono are meh and lack personality, IMHO.

But who cares about my opinion, Emma did and still will do what makes her happy as an individual - and this won’t affect any possible future group project. If your faves don’t release anything new, that’s not Melanie C fault. It’s like you want her to stop doing solo stuff because 1) there is no group thing happening; 2) the other 4 don’t do anything solo music-related (when they’re actually involved in different valuable projects, from books to entrepreneurship, fashion and charity.

 

Yes, it is our individual opinions we are all sharing here and no, the girls don't read this forum and yes they should do what makes them happy. That's all valid and again, I don't really understand your problem with us sharing our opinions.

 

No-one is saying that they can't do what they do lol But certainly we don't all have to support what they do, and we certainly can comment on it. At the end of the day, this is a forum to discuss them and their solo projects as much as it is about them as a group. You get the fans that support it, you get the ones who don't. It's democratic and it is all valid.

 

Hope that clears that for you and you clear that hurt in your butt about some os us not caring for Mel C's solo career ;)

Even if Melanie C's career choices are "second best" to work with the Spice Girls, she can hardly be expected to sit at home and do nothing, waiting for the other three or four to commit to the group. Why should she resign herself to thinking "nothing I do by myself can ever compare to Spice Girls, so I shouldn't bother, this is too low rent for me, as a Spice Girl". That would be such an unhealthy mindset to have. Thankfully she doesn't think this, she's still out there, booked and busy, and looking like she's having a lot of fun!

 

I think context really needs to be applied to Melanie C in 2023. Her most successful solo album and the hit singles from it are 23-24 years ago. She's almost 50. Everything could have dried up for her long before now... but she didn't allow that to happen, instead she's hitting new highs in her career such as performing at Glastonbury (regardless of the stage, she got a great reception) and she has a level of respect that wasn't afforded to her during the 2000s and 2010s.

 

When it comes to her solo career, realistically what sort of things do you guys expect her to be doing now, that would make her solo career "worthy" in your eyes? Because personally, she's exceeding my expectations for what I might have previously assumed her career would look like in the 2020s.

 

I'm not sure anyone is suggesting Melanie C do nothing just that some of us have a different perspective on it. It is like Mel B being a tv personality, she is but it is mainly low rent stuff and it is stuff a lot of reality 'stars' and C listers also do.

Melanie C doing nostalgia festivals are to me the same as Mel B doing some crappy tv show, yeah she is booked but it is very low on the ladder of their chosen career.

 

I just don't need to try and convince myself that what Mel B, Emma or Melanie C are doing is remotely 'oh I have to watch, attend or buy this' stuff anymore. Hopefully all are happy, paying the bills and satisfied.

 

I aint queueing up for 45 minutes on 4 devices like I did for the Spice Girls 2019 tour to get tickets and that feeling of excitement from the announcement, buying tickets and going to the concerts for any solo project from any of them.

 

I'm not at all saying people cant enjoy solo projects, just for the most part I don't enjoy them.

 

I guess the main problem is because of the Spice Girls I'm still invested in the girls but not in their solo careers.